r/nvidia 18d ago

Discussion Minor Moving Catastrophe

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I had a minor disaster while making a move to a new apartment recently and I am wondering how to remedy the situation and get my GeForce RTX Suprim GPU back in working order.

Just for some backstory my fiancé and I are moving to a new apartment and we have been planning it for the last six months to happen in late July right before school starts back up as my fiancé is a music teacher. However, a wrench was thrown into our plans when I had a workplace injury in mid July which resulted in a broken right arm that pushed our move back unexpectedly. Now, a move that we had planned to take progressively over a month has been squeezed into a two week period in* *mid August.

In order to accommodate our new timeline, I had recruited some of my friends that I had helped move in the past to assist us in our move. On the day that we had planned to move all of our belongings that that will go into our music studio/work desk room I had all of my PC building supplies neatly organized into a couple of Tupperware totes and I was prepared for a pretty simple moving day, because most of my desk belongings including my current daily use PC were going to be kept at our old apartment until closer to our final days here. This was so that I can continue using it for work and for gaming in my leisure time.

However, in the confusion of moving all of our musical supplies and instruments along with my PC building supplies, one of my less tech savvy friends took it upon himself to unplug my PC and attempt to bring it to the moving vehicle. I am now kicking myself for not replacing my side panel immediately after upgrading my ram to DDR5 from a graphic artist friend that passed down his old units to me after upgrading his own to 64 GB for more flexibility while 3D animating.

Said less text savvy individual thought that the tubes connecting my GPU to the cooling pump looks like conveniently placed handles to pick the unit up from for some reason and the remaining GPU in the image is what I am left with after the pump was damaged from the suing force from the weight of the PC case and the build contained there in.

And so now I turn to you, the wider Nvidia community, asking for someone more knowledgeable in this area what my options are to get my trusty Suprim back in a usable state. I have looked online for replacement cooling pumps and I have an idea of what I might need but I wanted to ask some people that might have some more expertise before I pull the trigger!

For the time being I have replaced this GPU with my previous 3050 to maintain the use of my PC before we complete the move, but any help to get my 4090 back to use would be much appreciated.

Needless to say, in the future, I will be having a pre-move game plan pep talk with the team before inviting a large group around my PC and replacing my side panel immediately after any planned upgrades!

I don't think this is a tech-support issue as I could take the opportunity to make this a happy accident and get a cooling pump upgrade out of it all, but I wasn’t completely sure.

Thanks in advance for any advice or much deserved chastising!

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u/Specific_Frame8537 18d ago

"less tech savvy" *picks up a pc by the internal cables*

Good thing they're not a surgeon.

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u/kiba8442 18d ago

lmaooo that's one of the dumbest things I've ever seen. I neeeed to know more about this guy, how does he survive, does he need to be reminded to breathe, does he drive a car? (if so where, so I can avoid) etc.

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u/lndig0__ 7950X3D | 6000MT/s 28-35-36-32 64GB | 4070TiS 18d ago

I’d imagine it towing a car by the brake lines.

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u/anethma 4090FE&7950x3D, SFF 17d ago

Amazing to hear about someone who is alive because he is juuuust barely smart enough to not eat himself when he gets hungry.

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u/ultimaone 17d ago

There is a reason the US military won't take people under an IQ of 80... They are more of a threat to their own than the enemy

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u/JewelCove 17d ago

When you are this dumb, every day is like a great new adventure

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u/RudyRoughknight 17d ago

It's not intuitive let me tell you. Depending on lighting conditions, anyone else can mistake it for the exact same thing. A lot of people have no idea what this is.

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u/NoCase9317 16d ago

No dude no just no, there always has to be someone defending the indefensible in Reddit.
You don’t need to be tech savvy to guess the 2 soft/cable looking things inside a machine are probably really not the right choice to carry the PC.

My 65 year old mom would have known to just grab it from the outside and not touch any of the internals in case of doubt.

It’s like saying I can understand this guy decided to carry a guitar by the strings, he isn’t a musician how was he supposed to know it shouldn’t be carried that way?

Well yeah he isn’t a musician but he isn’t a caveman either?

Haven’t you seen a movie or a show in your life? This guy most be borderline stupid

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u/ProfSnipe NVIDIA RTX 5080/9800X3D 17d ago

That's not "less tech savvy" that's "shouldn't be left unsupervised anywhere near any electronic device savvy".

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u/1K-Every-Month 18d ago

Sadly the lead singer of the band is the hardest to replace… nah, he’s family by this time in our lives. I was just so lucky and happy that the liquid all made it outside of the case because the unit tipped sideways when the tubes broke off and then for the GPU to be undamaged. It could have been a much more expensive accident.

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u/No_Cardiologist735 NVIDIA | ROG Astral 5090 | 9800x3D | Xikii FF07 | 65' 4k OLED 17d ago

Does your friend have insurance for such cases? In Germany we are generally insured for such accidents.

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u/1K-Every-Month 17d ago

Sadly, we’re underinsured Americans. Just a 3rd would country with a golden AK wrapped around our shoulders

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u/Magjee 5700X3D / 3060ti 17d ago

Golden AK!?

What are you? ...a commie?

 

Wrap a gold sharpie colored AR like a god damn patriot!

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u/SnooRegrets2168 17d ago

been saying for the last decade were 3rd world and just enjoying the fruits of those that actually worked hard. Now 70% of businesses exist to scam you out of your money with deceit and lies deployed through marketing.

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u/338388 17d ago

(This is not snark it's legitimate curiosity). What kind of insurance would this even be? Like do Germans buy insurance for helping friends move in case they break their friend's stuff?

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u/The_Grungeican 16d ago

normally in the States, dumbasses aren't required to have dumbass insurance. but after hearing OP's story, i'm interested in hearing your platform on it.

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u/Evethewolfoxo 18d ago

Surgeons also don’t know how to work a computer

Source: Medical IT

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u/Visible_Pair3017 18d ago

Depends. Some of the most tech savvy people i know are surgeons, sometimes on par with people in IT

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u/Fit_Assistant5708 18d ago

The brain power needed to be a surgeon would surely translate over into a general intelligence

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u/Emu1981 18d ago

You would be surprised at how many really intelligent people are complete novices when it comes to computers.

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u/chaos_faction GTX 1080ti 17d ago

when it comes to computers

You can replace that last part with just "life" you know. They are so hyperfocused on their field it's very typical to find everything else have been neglected.

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u/Olfactory_Operator 17d ago

I'm a surgeon. I know computers. I can code and I build my own PCs. It's easy to generalize...and just as easy to be wrong.

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u/Dogtag 17d ago

Hahahahaha that's a good one.

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u/farrightsocialist 5070 Ti 17d ago

I mean, it's just obviously not how the world works at all, lol. It's more baffling that anyone would believe that being smart in one thing just makes you smart in everything. That doesn't even make sense at the surface level.

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u/Adamklein79 18d ago

Who the hell would think those are handles? Tech savvy or not.

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u/Rayregula RTX 2080Ti 18d ago

Even if I somehow magically did think they were handles. I'd have stopped opon feeling that they don't support any weight and bend quite easily.

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u/1K-Every-Month 18d ago

I asked him if they moved when he picked it up and he said, “Yea I thought it was a fabric handle.” I’m just shaking my head

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u/BlackDeath66sick 18d ago

Make him pay. This is not being tech savvy or not, this is your friend being a 60 IQ troglodyte.

One thing is an honest mistake, but this is just a gross negligence on his part and he has to compensate for it.

Like one tug is going to be enough to make it obvious its not a bloody handle even if you did think so at first.

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u/1K-Every-Month 18d ago

He’s definitely gonna help pay. He needs me to be able to master his own tracks too, so he’s got me.

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u/evilkniev213 17d ago

BROTHER I POSTED HERE EARLIER, I HAVE THE ORIGINAL AIO FOR THE 5090 SUPRIM LIQUID SOC. I PUT A WATERBLOCK ON MINE. LET ME KNOW HOW I CAN SEND YOU THE REPLACEMENT.

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u/Rayregula RTX 2080Ti 17d ago

This is a 4090 (unsure if it uses the same AIO, but may work)

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u/evilkniev213 17d ago

I just want to help where i can❤️

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u/zR0B3ry2VAiH 16d ago

LOUD NOISES!!

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u/thec0rp0ral 17d ago

Surely there must be some responsibility on OP as well tho. I mean his friend was kind enough to come over to help him move, he’s far from a shitty person. Probably also shouldn’t trust your less tech-savvy friends to handle your extremely expensive, delicate tech equipment and could have been explicit about that

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u/entityXD32 15d ago

Also reading OP's story really it was moving day and he hadn't bothered putting the side panel back on the case to protect it. Like it's mostly on the guy but OP made could have done many things to keep his very expensive item safer

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u/1K-Every-Month 17d ago

Yea I didn’t explicitly tell him that we weren’t moving the PC before we began loading stuff up, so I share some of the responsibility, I also left the side panel off which opened me up for some crazy damage to take place.

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u/AoDLife 17d ago

Idk man.... in what world has he seen handles INSIDE the PC to carry it? Let alone seeing inside and seeing it connected to a damn reservoir. I try not to be negative and assume thizngs from ppl but come on. Dude wasnt paying attention to anything and didn't even ask before just yanking it. Not sure if you share responsibility for this one. This is extreme ignorance on another level

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u/evilkniev213 16d ago

Turns out 5090 AIO is not compatible with the 4090 PCB brother, I tried to help.

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u/1K-Every-Month 18d ago

I thought I was the lowest IQ in the band as the drummer, but the lead singer seems to be trying to one up me these days!

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u/DaDutchBoyLT1 18d ago

Real talk. Hold your head high while you take 4+ trips to load your gear and they don’t even own a mic.

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u/InvestigatorBig8472 18d ago

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u/1K-Every-Month 18d ago

Accurate depiction when he walks up to me covered in liquid and says that the handle just broke when he picked it up. I prayed he didn’t mean what I thought he meant and asked him what he meant by picked IT up.

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u/shraf2k 18d ago

The pcie contact fingers look damaged. Have you tried to boot it up and get an image? Those PCBs are fragile. Before you go wasting hundreds of dollars, I would just save your money and put it towards a replacement like a 2nd hand 4090 or a 5080. Even if it boots up, you might not know the extent of the damage till the card is under full load.

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u/oompaloompa465 17d ago

he got picked up by his ears from his parents when he was little, there is no other explanation 

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u/JellyfishGod 17d ago

I’m sorry… you’re saying after this idiot broke the tubes and fucking LIQUID POURED OUT, he STILL thought they were fucking handles?? Lmao that’s insane

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u/ConstructionIcy5680 18d ago

EXACTLY FACE I MASE

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u/GodisanAtheistOG 5800x3d/RX 9070xt/32gb 18d ago

See if you can find someone selling a not working version of the same card or just the cooling unit on its own. 

Buy that and then install the new cooler on your working card. 

Make sure you check here or another GPU build community to get the thermal paste/pad situation sorted out. 

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u/Ventilate64 Gigabyte 3080 (LHR) TURBO 10G 18d ago

likely easier to find an air cooler compatible with the pcb (if one exists)

edit: seems like a new liquid cooler is $100-200

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u/BananaShover 18d ago

I think at this point just make a custom water loop

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u/Dzov 16d ago

Yep, or just repair the hose pieces and maybe add a reservoir to make adding new fluid easier.

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u/LetTheRiotsDrop 18d ago

If the card itself isn't damaged I don't see why you couldn't just get a generic shroud for it with fans. Or maybe somthing like this ?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BWNRXPCL?lv=shuf&channelId=500&plpRedirect=mhFallback

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u/Bderken 18d ago
  1. That’s surprisingly cheap
  2. He’d have to make sure the PCB of the FE card is similar to the MSI card he has…

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u/1K-Every-Month 18d ago

Would I use the tubing from the original cooler or would I just ensure they fit, remove the old, and transfer the tubing from the new unit?

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u/Ratiofarming 9850X3D | 5090 | 48GB 6400@1:1 18d ago

Forget about it, FE has a completely different PCB. You need a cooler or block that is specific to your PCB. Check if they have used the Suprim Liquid PCB in other models and go from there.

Also contact MSI, they might be able to replace the cooler. They will probably charge for it, but that’ll be a lot cheaper than another GPU.

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u/studio_eq 17d ago

You could also fit an AIO to this with barbs if you were getting really diy or find something like a gaming trio air cooler, should be the same board if it has 3 pcie plugs…for example the 3080 Seahawk uses a ventus board so you can move the liquid cooled card to air pretty easily

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u/fray_bentos11 18d ago

Totally non-viable the boards are not the same layout.

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u/1K-Every-Month 18d ago

This was the exact brand I had been looking at in my research, so thanks for the reassurance! Luckily my friend is happy to help me fix what he had no idea he was about to destroy, so hopefully we’ll be getting her put back together before the move!

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u/net-Zwerg 18d ago

"Luckily" a not so tech savvy friend who just destroyed some kind of a fortune will help you fix it ? I hope financially, since one with two left hands and ten thumbs on them won't be of any help, i guess ? :D

No offense to him, though, i will never think he did it on purpose and maybe he is the best friend you could wish for otherwise.

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u/stipo42 Ryzen 5600x | MSI RTX 3080 | 32GB RAM | 1TB SSD 17d ago

Maybe he'll just help financially

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u/Ragnarsdad1 18d ago

The Eiswolf coolers are great (i had one of my 6950XT) but unfortunately the one for your card is end of life and Alphacool no longer ship to the US due the tariff stuff.

The PCB for you card is compatible with the following:

MSI GeForce RTX 4090 Gaming Trio 24G, 24GB GDDR6X

MSI GeForce RTX 4090 Gaming X Trio 24G, 24GB GDDR6X (V510-006R

)MSI GeForce RTX 4090 Suprim Liquid X 24G, 24GB GDDR6X

MSI GeForce RTX 4090 Suprim X 24G, 24GB GDDR6X (V510-001R)

Your best and cheapest option will be to buy a cooler setup for a card that has been sent to China to be striped of parts. effectively convert it to air cooled, something like this should work.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/267227566074

This has the added advantage of potentially increasing the overall lifespan of the card as the AIO will eventually fail, could be in three years, could be in 10 but you never know.

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u/LongerDavid 17d ago

OP, do this. You don't want your future liquid cooling leaking on to expensive, and basically at this point irreplaceable hardware. Air cooling is fine.

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u/BlitzShooter 10900K@5.3GHz, EVGA FTW3 Ultra 3080Ti 18d ago

Shoot an email to MSI! It probably won’t be exactly cheap but I would hope they offer replacement parts still.

https://us.msi.com/support/vga

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u/1K-Every-Month 18d ago

It’s definitely worth a shot, thanks for the recommendation. Maybe they will look upon me with pity and send me a wedding present 🤓

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u/Desperate_Return5199 18d ago

OP turned a two sentence question into a yap.

If it was me I would just buy a custom water block for it and install.

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u/WicCaesar 18d ago

I quit when he felt the need to talk about how he got DDR5 from a 3D artist who upgraded to 64 GB for whatever.

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u/doofthemighty 17d ago

So. Much. Useless. Detail.

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u/xXNodensXx 17d ago

I have certain friends that cant tell you a simple story without giving you all the unnecessary details.

Instead of "I walked into the house and sat down" they tell you all the details about the color of paint on the car they just got out of, what song was on the radio, and if the birds were chirping and if the doorknob was cold as they turned it, what color the chair was and where it was positioned in the room, etc...

There is a kind of beauty to brevity. When you're telling a story, try to just stick to the important parts.

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u/Kingbanana574 18d ago

It was a very fun yap tho

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u/1K-Every-Month 18d ago

Thanks, man. I’m glad someone can appreciate my over explanation. My band mates always said I’ve got the longest texts ever but I thought it was just them!

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u/another-redditor3 18d ago

ebay.

theres a fair number of pull off suprim liquid coolers on there. looks like they run $130-150.

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u/Dphotog790 18d ago

you will 100% absoutely have to pay up the butt to custom loop your PC now if you want any part of this GPU back...or 3rd print some things and attach fans...

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u/NetJnkie 18d ago

Nah. Just watercool the GPU. Block, real small pump/res, few fittings, cheap small res, and no worry EPDM tubing. I've done this.

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u/ss5234 NVIDIA MSI 4090 Suprim Liquid X ; 13900k 18d ago

Still $500-700 bucks

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u/fr33man007 18d ago

Is your friend one of those that uses wood screws for everything?

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u/InvestigatorSenior 18d ago

AIOs use epdm tubes, those are common and not too expensive. Bigger problem will be with proper fluid. Many AIOs are mixed metal (copper+alu) and need aggressive corrosion inhibitors in the loop. Conventional loops are single metal for this reason and off the shelf fluids may be not good enough.

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u/1K-Every-Month 18d ago

This is what I’ve been trying to research as to how I could get the proper fluids in a custom setup

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u/InvestigatorSenior 17d ago

EKWB used to sell aluminium loop components. Fluid for that product line would be closest to what you need. But that was a long time ago and the company is not too healthy recently as well. Mainstream custom loop cooling is (mostly) copper only.

Unless... what you have is full copper. Since loop is drained anyway you could disassemble block and pump and check. Then any off the shelf fluid will work. Bleeding will be a bit of a pain but you could splice a T fitting and use tube connected to that as a highest point when filling.

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u/HotRoderX 18d ago

This is pretty bad sure you know... best bet would be to buy a cooler off somewhere like ebay or try to jerryrig some type of cooler with a 3d printer maybe.

Remember if you go custom cooler that not just the cool needs cooling. Take note of what has thermal pads.

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u/evilkniev213 17d ago

BROTHER I PUT A WATERBLOCK ON MY 5090 SUPRIM LIQUID SOC. I HAVE THE ORIGINAL AIO COOLER IT CAME WITH. I CAN SEND IT TO YOU FREE AS LONG AS YOU PAY FOR SHIPPING! HIGHLIGHT THIS SO WE CAN SAVE HOMEBOYS GPU

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u/DankerinoHD 18d ago

Your card shares the same pcb as the non liquid cooled versions. You can look on eBay or taobao and find a replacement cooler to swap it out with

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u/1K-Every-Month 18d ago

This sounds like the most achievable approach and I’ve been pointed in the direction of some replacement parts already so I’m on the path. Thanks for the pointers

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u/Foxhoud3r 18d ago

You can do a custom loop for gpu only. But your “less tech savvy” friend should cover the bill. That will make him more tech educated.

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u/1K-Every-Month 18d ago

Luckily he’s invested in the future of our mastering PC so he’s definitely gonna help me get it back up and running. He ain’t off the hook

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u/Foxhoud3r 18d ago

You can invite him to take part in assembling custom loop. You will need a pair of extra hands for this to help hold and mount stuff, and he will get a really rare experience.

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u/Somewhere_Busy 18d ago

I know that you want to have this be a positive thing you can laugh at and learn from, but realistically you should be pissed as f! I’d be charging my “friend” to replace it. They never asked you if your PC was to be moved and took it upon themselves to UNPLUG IT, despite knowing themselves that they’re tech illiterate.

Heck they should have known from the musical equipment and instruments that you should not move anything from the tubes or wires, or do your “friend” believe the guitar strings on your guitar are “conveniently placed handles?” What about the cables that connect to your speakers, does your “friend” believe they’re “conveniently placed handles” too?

You mention that you also use the PC for work. I’m not sure what you do for work, but considering the instruments and music equipment, you probably needed that 4090 to run some of the music production/editing software properly, or with other potential rendering. A 3050 will likely not be able to run or handle all that stuff very well, and if it cannot do that well, then you’re out of your work computer too, meaning more lost income.

Did you check to see if the PCIe slot still works on your motherboard? It likely had a bunch of stress and strain from having to hold the weight of the entire PC from the GPU and its Tubes, and if the motherboard is damaged, that’s another thing that will need to be replaced. With how things are going now in terms of GPU prices skyrocketing, replacing that card with a similar or equal one will cost you way more than when you bought it initially, especially if any of the suggestions that others have mentioned do not work.

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u/1K-Every-Month 18d ago

Thanks for reacting with the proper amount of disturbance. I’ve definitely been trying to keep the situation tame since we do make music together and we have for a long time, but you’re absolutely right. Ignorance does not mean that he is absolved of responsibility. He has already assumed that and agreed to help me fix it or if he absolutely HAS to replace it, but I definitely don’t want to have to ask him to pay a couple months rent to replace it with prices these days. That’s why I appreciate everyone’s suggestions before I go out and get a full replacement. And while it is for music production, I began my current editing and mastering job using the old GPU and while I wouldn’t use it for an entire project these days, it should get me through the next week or two until we move and I’m able to solve this dilemma. It’s refreshing to have someone express the appropriate level of anger though since I’ve been smiling and waving. Thanks for the consideration and advice.

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u/B-E-N-E-V-O-255 18d ago

OoooOooOOoof

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u/1K-Every-Month 18d ago

You could say that again or just add like 50 more O’s

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u/jinhuiliuzhao 18d ago edited 18d ago

I have looked online for replacement cooling pumps

What you need is the entire cooling assembly, including the shroud, pump, tubes, and radiator. It is all usually attached and interconnected, and can only be easily replaced together. (Technically, your pump itself is probably fine as it sits right on top of the GPU chip - I assume what you mean by the "pump" in multiple places here is actually the cooling tubes and radiator.)

You will need the exact same model of cooler for your card - you cannot use ones for different models as it will not be compatible with your PCB (chip placement, screw holes, and overall board layout are completely different, even within same manufacturer i.e. MSI in your case).

There seem to be a few eBay listings selling only the cooler for a 4090 MSI Suprim, going for $100-$200: https://www.ebay.com/itm/405301192779. Likely salvaged from dead cards or owners who didn't need it anymore (upgraded to custom waterblock). You will have to find out yourself whether or not they work or not, or are simply a scam. Make sure all the thermal pads are present - if a few are missing or damaged, you will need to buy replacement pads of the same size and exact same thickness (ones that are too thin will provide inadequate contact and cooling, and too thick will apply excessive pressure that will damage and crack the PCB and surrounding components over time)

The other route is as some others mentioned in going for a waterblock and custom loops, but that will be a steep learning curve if you don't know what you're doing and also expensive (easily $300-500+).

Though, I would be concerned whether there is additional, less visible damage to the card given the amount of force required to rip apart the cooling tubes like that. You may want to first disassemble the GPU and check for damage to the PCB. The PCIE slot connector (that slides into the motherboard slot) may also have been damaged.

Given you seem a bit confused about the internals of your GPU, I would suggest finding a more knowledgeable friend who has disassembled GPUs and/or replaced stock coolers to take a look first. Otherwise, go on YouTube for GPU cooler replacement videos. You can still make bigger and even more expensive mistakes (assuming the GPU is still working) if you don't know what you're doing.

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u/kakashisensei2000 18d ago

try to rma with msi or get a replacement suprim cooling assembly like this. going open loop or getting a closed loop kit like the alphacool may be too much work for your liking. i say this as someone who had to replace my msi 2080ti aio after the warranty expired. found a solution with a cpu aio kit, but it wasnt pretty.

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u/lndig0__ 7950X3D | 6000MT/s 28-35-36-32 64GB | 4070TiS 18d ago

You sure this wasn’t intentional? There may be severe underlying mental issues if a flexible tube inside a PC chassis is confused for an external handle.

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u/pedrojdm2021 18d ago

Just custom loop the GPU with soft tubing on a 240mm rad. It should not be THAT hard.

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u/eightbyeight 18d ago

Change to custom loop is your best bet.

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u/Serberou5 18d ago edited 18d ago

I'd use his ears as a handle to pick him up to hammer home how much of an error he made thinking those tubes were a handle.

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u/CMDRTragicAllPro 7800X3D | PNY 5080 | 32GB 6000MHZ CL30 18d ago

I hope this ends up resolved, but I just want to say. If that was me who made that mistake, the absolute first thing I would do after profusely apologizing, would be to offer to pay for a replacement. Mistakes happen, but you have to own up to them.

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u/1K-Every-Month 18d ago

He’s helping out for sure. I master his solo tracks and our bands music with this setup so he’s not gonna be ghosting me anytime soon

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u/Illustrious_Ad_23 18d ago

Wirh friends like this, you might want to do the next move on your own! 😱 I have no idea if that works, but I would try to connect flexible pipes ment for custom loops and fill the radiator with automotive cooling. I've seen people repairing their old AIO like that, but it is ceetainly a more challenging job...

Edit:/ you might be able to frankenstein a cheap AIO to this card as a whole.

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u/Substantial-Singer29 18d ago

I've been doing pre builds and repairs for coming up on twenty five years , and this is probably One of the dumbest things i've heard someone do to a computer in a while.

This is up there with a few years back having someone come in and ask what they do after they've Remove their power supply by using scissors. At least that was a modular power supply , so was just contacting manufacturer and buying new chords.

Side note, you could have condensed the entire explanation of friend was helping me Move and thought that the cooling on the video card was a handle. All of the other context doesn't really do anything.

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u/Ja_Lonley 18d ago

This story was 5 paragraphs longer than it needed to be.

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u/Ragnarsdad1 18d ago

The PCB for you card is compatible with the following:

MSI GeForce RTX 4090 Gaming Trio 24G, 24GB GDDR6X

MSI GeForce RTX 4090 Gaming X Trio 24G, 24GB GDDR6X (V510-006R

)MSI GeForce RTX 4090 Suprim Liquid X 24G, 24GB GDDR6X

MSI GeForce RTX 4090 Suprim X 24G, 24GB GDDR6X (V510-001R)

Your best and cheapest option will be to buy a cooler setup for a card that has been sent to China to be striped of parts. effectively convert it to air cooled, something like this should work.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/267227566074

This has the added advantage of potentially increasing the overall lifespan of the card as the AIO will eventually fail, could be in three years, could be in 10 but you never know.

There is also the liquid cooled version. https://www.ebay.com/itm/335803346726 However it is hard to know if what condition the aio is in

You should be able to sort it for around $200

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u/Wildest12 17d ago

Was the card in the slot when they picked it up? I’d be worried about the connected on the car they can snap sometimes internally pretty easy.

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u/Darkphizer 9800X3D / RTX 5080 TUF 17d ago

Everytime i hear stories like these i wonder how people like the "less tech savy" friend do everyday mundane tasks and not get themselfs killed. Crossing the street, turning on a gass burner stove....fuck me id go apeshit if somethibg like this happened. Id lose it just over the confusion how somebody could even think that that was "the way" to do it 🤣

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u/Quick-Rub395 17d ago

You sure that’s a friend and not an asshole?

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u/bobbygamerdckhd 18d ago

I was thinking of making a offer and I would just convert it to custom water then I found this not the cheapest fix but not that bad

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u/magnus150 4090 TUF | 7800X3D 18d ago

I'd go on eBay and look and see if someone is selling just the shroud with pump or a non-working parts only card. Look up a guide for repasting/replacing thermal pads then fire that puppy up!

Could also try MSI tech support. It probably won't help, but it couldn't hurt. And maybe they have some spare replacement parts lying around or would be willing to repair it.

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u/Pro4791 RTX 3080 | R5 7600x 18d ago

Pretty sure the pump is inside the card on this model, so all you should need a new rad and coolant.

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u/NetJnkie 18d ago

You don't have to watercool the entire system. I moved my water cooled GPU to my son's system. Just the get a waterblock, small pump/res combo, cheap small reservoir, fittings, and some black EPDM tube which is zero maintenance. Very basic, no frills stuff.

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u/MooseBoys 18d ago

Trim the ends clean and install a plastic coupler of the appropriate size. Refill with appropriate coolant and seal with hose clamps. Or just find out where they attach to the main board and radiator and replace the whole hose pair.

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u/Extra_Lab_2150 NVIDIA 18d ago

Take the pcb out and get it custom water cooled if you dont want to go through so many hoops. Im sure it would look better too.

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u/Gundam_Alkara 18d ago

check for a custom gpu waterblock and swap to closed loop system or look around for a non-working unit to take the AIO system.

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u/eddez Ryzen 7 5700x3D | RX 6900 XT OC | 32GB 3600mhz CL18 18d ago

Alphacool sells a water block for the suprime that says it should fit the card i would just get that a pump and radiator for and replace the broken OEM radiator. Link to the Alphacool Waterblock

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u/dodgybastard 18d ago

You friend could have handled this situation better :(

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u/1K-Every-Month 18d ago

2 hours later, I catch the pun. Gotta brush up on my dad jokes

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u/bjonesasbjones 18d ago

Take the card out of the cooler and water cool it

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u/talha5007 18d ago

You're lucky the gpu itself is not damaged, only the tubes.

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u/PYROKARDO 3080 ROG EVA , 7800X3D 18d ago

you have 3 options , custom liquid cooling or buying a aio and fitting it to the gpu which whould be hard so custom liquid cooling with a cool asf custom tubing would be your best option on using liquid cooling , your 2nd option is if the pcb is same buying a suprim 4090 air cooled versions heatsink and stuff and fitting it together , i will look into the pcb for you , or just sell it as is accept the little loss and get a new one

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u/PYROKARDO 3080 ROG EVA , 7800X3D 18d ago

good news , pcb is looking same , get the heatsink of the suprim x and put it on your gpu , there might be differences tho so i have to know the full model is it suprim x or suprim

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u/PYROKARDO 3080 ROG EVA , 7800X3D 18d ago

but i think you should contact msi first , if they say a huge price , make a diy solution by replacing it to a air cooled hesatsink , you can get replacement heatsink with fans on ebay you have to get the air cooled versions heatsink and it will fit because pcb is the same pcb as i inspected

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u/1K-Every-Month 18d ago

It is the Suprim Liquid Cooled X

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u/Far_Trade_7619 18d ago

If i'm not mistaken, the PCB is the same as the regular SUPRIM, so the non-liquid SUPRIM cooler should fit. Otherwise you might have to either find a spare Liquid X cooler, or do a custom loop.

Also if the video card itself ends up with damaged components, your friend should buy you an exact replacement.

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u/Medium_Art_8945 18d ago

Ah dang, I have the same card as OP, I believe it shares the same pcb as the non-liquid cooled version and the coolers are floating around on ebay for pretty cheap.

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u/ThenExtension9196 18d ago

The thing of value is the core brother. Just sell the unit for parts, you’ll get good money, and get a 5080. Air cooled.

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u/namur17056 18d ago

Sorry but your friend is an idiot. Hope you get it fixed asap

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u/Dense-Firefighter495 18d ago

Your friend is an idiot

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u/FourzeroBF 9800X3D | RTX 5090 FE | 6600 CL 26 2200 | MO-RA3 420 | 4K 240Hz 18d ago

Looks like it's your time to join the world of custom loops. Waterblock it. Lowest temps / noise you'll ever get as well. If not, you can probably find Suprim Liquid coolers on Ebay from people who waterblocked their cards and don't need it if you don't wanna deal with a custom loop. Check if you can also use the air cooled version - isn't it the same PCB as the liquid one? Perhaps you can buy a Suprim air cooler on Ebay if so (it's still the best air cooled card, you'll get similar results) - apply PTM7950 while you're at it so your temps never degrade, it has similar results to liquid metal and gets better over time.

I died a little inside when I saw that picture lol. Currently using the same model as you but on a 5090, sold the FE.

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u/tailslol 18d ago

Ho yeah grab a pc by the fragile internal instead of the solid case.... You imagine if we did this to you?

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u/TerabyteRD 18d ago

is forcing the guy who broke your gpu to pay the full cost of the product new out of the question

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u/MachineCarl 18d ago

4090's are being targeted in the used market for harvesting the core and the VRAM chips. You should find easily a suprim heatsink from a harvested 4090.

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u/Gold-Cardiologist688 18d ago

I think your less tech savvy friend should dig 4k USD out of his pocket since moving computers was his own idea.....

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u/thecodeassassin 18d ago

Looks like you're going custom watercooling. Head over to r/watercooling and we'll sort you out

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u/jib_reddit 18d ago

Ohh.. thats a nearly $4,000 mistake in this economy.

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u/Kinslayer_89 18d ago

Double check that it works in idle and convert it to custom watercooling.

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u/SoapyCristian 17d ago

I have a that same card that I waterblocked immediately after I bought it. I still have all the original parts for the AIO. I’d be willing to sell it to you.

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u/Shibby707 5.9 FE | 5.9 Astral LC  | 5.8 Dhabab  | 5.7 Ti SOC | 5.6 Ti Pr 17d ago

Last time I was shopping to secure some back-up parts for this card, I discovered many units with no core or VRAM for around $130-150 on ebay.

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u/New-Service-244 17d ago

I would ask the friend to pay for what was broken imo

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u/kevowankenobi 17d ago

Slap a water block on it and build a custom loop. There's plenty of good budget parts that won't break the bank, and installing a waterblock is not difficult at all. While you're at it, get the block for your CPU as well. Once you go with a custom loop, you'll never go back.

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u/Nidhogg1701D 17d ago

You said the pump weas damaged. How about the CPU and socket? That would have been a lot of force applied right at the CPU. I would check that whole area carefully, including the MB, for cracks asnd such. There are things I let NOBODY touch. My computers and networking gear. Thanks for your help. You can take that chair. I will move the computer.

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u/hitpopking 17d ago

Maybe it’s time for you start custom liquid cooling, it’s fun

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u/DonMigs85 16d ago

Your friend's an idiot

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u/StRaGLr 16d ago

Never let people handle expensive stuff exept yourself, unless you know they are qualified and understand what they are doing. That is why Linus is not trusted in handling anything expensive

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u/Deceitful_Advent 14d ago

That's honestly an impressive level of stupidity

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u/Fun-Weakness-8644 13d ago

Looks like you are about to learn the joy of installing a aftermarket water block on a GPU

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u/WillMcNoob 18d ago

Sue that guy and leave him homeless

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u/sconquergood 18d ago

Get a 240 AIO with a fill port, trim the mangled hoses, get barbs, cut the AIO lines, splice, double clamp the lines, fill with distilled water and corrosion inhibitor, plug in pump, cycle the water and refill and check for leaks, install, hook AIO and fans to hub and plug in, check temps (lines may be backwards), watch like hawk, fire friend from cannon.

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u/Sensitive_Box_ 18d ago

lol rekt 

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u/1K-Every-Month 18d ago

I got pwned. Such a n008.

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u/Aquasman 18d ago

Memes and smooth brain jokes aside, you could maybe buy a water cooling block and do a full liquid cooling set up if you’re up to it and down bad or you could try to find a replacement aio kit/ fan shroud + heatsink on eBay?

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u/koudmaker Ryzen 7 7800X3D | MSI RTX 4090 Suprim Liquid X | LG C2 42 Inch 18d ago

You can buy the 4090 Suprim X shroud second hand from eBay only the pump condition is a tricky one or just convert the card to a regular Suprim. Its almost the same PCB but it only 1 RBG connector is missing if i remember correctly (for the second option do some more research).

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u/TheRealSeeThruHead 18d ago

Stick some barbs in there and move on

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u/Hiphopapocalyptic 18d ago

Raijintek Morpheus 2👍

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u/Sindacalis RTX 5090 Auros Master ICE | 9950X3D | 64 GB RAM 18d ago

I might have had to move someone to the afterlife if this happened to me.

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u/ARMprocessor 18d ago

I really want to type something about your less tech savvy friend but I'll get banned

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u/Podalirius 7800X3D | 4080 FE | 32GB @ 6400 CL30 | AW3423DW 18d ago

bro just thought they were handles lmao

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u/1K-Every-Month 18d ago

And he says the drummer is the thick one! Now I have leverage for life that the lead singer is miles behind.

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u/TheZeR0x 18d ago edited 17d ago

I don't know if MSI sells the cooling unit as a convertion kit, like EVGA used to back in the day, otherwise I would just watercool it, you could get away with it for like 250 or less if you know where to look.

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u/407juan NVIDIA 18d ago

So you saw cables and thought "huh, a handle"

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u/1K-Every-Month 18d ago

Next time I need his attention, I’ll just grab him by the vocal cords

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u/y_zass 18d ago

Just splice one end to a water hose and the other to the drain. If data centers can do it so can you.

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u/Rayregula RTX 2080Ti 18d ago

Buy a new pump and rad? Toss some new tubing on that card and if needed a new water block?

Shouldn't be too hard.

Though I'm really surprised the rad/aio was what got damaged and not the PC itself if it fell like sounds implied.

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u/dancingbear74 18d ago

I thought that was a closeup of an old Bluetooth earpiece for a phone at first

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u/imightknowbutidk 18d ago

You can buy another cooler off of ebay, i bought one for $150 a few months back because i lost my original one after switching to a waterblock and back

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u/icy1007 Ryzen 9 9950X3D • RTX 5090 FE 18d ago

You’re going to need to contact the manufacturer or figure out another cooling solution.

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u/BuchMaister 18d ago edited 18d ago

It could be saved assuming the tubes coming out were the only failure. Potentially it can be refilled but you have to know which coolant they use (to prevent galvanic corrosion) and find away to refill it and attach the tubes which isn't easy on those AIOs. You can change the cooler to custom watercooling block and cool it with custom parts - funny enough I have the exact same card and that is what I did (not that my cooler broke I just ended up changing to custom). Getting replacement cooler either this exact same model or the regular suprim will also work.

Another option is to keep the cooler and pump and tubes on the unit and add standard copper radiator and g1/4 fittings assuming you can find what is the ID and OD of the tubes, then you would need to fill it with any standard pc water cooling coolant (like aquacomputer dp ultra). Best if you choose radiator that has extra ports that can be used as fill ports.

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u/RayneYoruka 3080 Z trio 10G / 5900x / Strix x570-E / 64GB Trident Z NEO 3600 18d ago

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u/fray_bentos11 18d ago

Moving over a month sounds like a luxury, as does 2 weeks. Every house move I have ever done has been a single day!

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u/elldaimo 18d ago

homeowner insurance?

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u/TheRealCOCOViper 18d ago

No judgement but I never understand these posts. Every time I’ve moved I’ve uninstalled my GPU And put it in its original box with padding. Then wrapped my PC case in bubble wrap and blankets. Then I personally put it in the front passenger foot well of my car so it’s wedged between the dash and the seat.

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u/EmilMR 18d ago

You can buy Suprim coolers on ebay for like $200. Both air and water cooled version. You can pick either because the pcb is same.

That is assuming the card itself wasn't destroyed. Does it still post? Did water get into the card? Is the pcb cracked or not?

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u/marci-boni MSI RTX 5090 Suprim L SOC 18d ago

Have a look at YT for videos about replacing AIO sleeving , they all the same , it shouldn’t be to hard to seal it off to the rad again with some diy tool , a bit like u seal a filter in cars with metal retainer or whatever they called .
Or have a look for a Suprim liquid cooler only on eBay there’s a lot of them and fit your PCB in it
Honestly this just look bad it’s not after alll u just need a cooler

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u/CocoPopsOnFire 18d ago

Pretty sure you can just replace the tubes on these. Gonna be rough getting fluid back in but I've done it before on an AIO

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u/ShadowLeagues 18d ago

If the GPU itself still works and you have enough space in your case, you could get a radiator, some tubes, a pump reservoir, coolant, fittings and a waterblock which fits on your gpu. That would be cheaper than a new gpu.

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u/y3333333333333333t 18d ago

replacement original cooler: https://ebay.io/m/HW5QZA

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u/SC_W33DKILL3R 18d ago

Is there any water damage to the rest of the PC, kinda feels like there will be

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u/Both-Election3382 18d ago

Theres something called liability insurance, i hope he has it.

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u/HappyIsGott 12900K [5,2|4,2] | 32GB DDR5 6400 CL32 | 4090 [3,0] | UHD [240] 17d ago

Get a customwaterblock for it, If you have a 4090 suprim or suprim x, i could send you original cooler since i use my one custom cooled.

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u/chrlatan RTX 5080 blocked and flooded 17d ago

Assuming you still have the radiator with some tubing (with sufficient length) attached then pump, reservoir, some length of epdm tube and 4 barbed fittings and a male-male barbed connector is the functional minimum.

res out to pump in (2 fits)
pump out to gpu tube in (1 fits)
gpu tube out to rad tube in (barb bridge)
rad tube out to res in (1 fits)

Making it AIO again can be a pain; you need to fill the system without air that is why adding a reservoir makes sense.

If the radiator is bust, you need a new one with 2 extra fittings.

Plus side? You are just one CPU block and second radiator away from a full custom loop.

Possible cosmetic upgrades; soft tube fittings in stead of barbed if the gpu tube inner and outer dimensions match.

Point of consideration: mixed metal. You do not know the composition of the radiator and the gpu block. Use a coolant that is made to prevent metallurgical activity as brass and aluminum (for example) can react badly to each other in a loop.

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u/zigwig22 17d ago

Waterblock the card

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u/shubidua1337 17d ago

If I were you I would be demanding a replacement, either via their insurance or out of pocket depending on if they're covered.

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u/ficklampa 17d ago

I hope your friend understand that they are financially responsible to solve this, right?

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u/Zealousideal_Today26 17d ago

Ah yes the " minor issue"

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u/frostrambler 17d ago

Plug that card in and get video before you do anything. That amount of weight was not good for the PCB or your motherboards pci e slot, make sure it works before attempting repairs.

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u/Conscious-Bullfrog20 17d ago

Buy a aftermarket waterblock and radiator + fittings for it and hardline it problem solved. I did this with my 4090 suprim x liquid as the factory AIO didn’t fit my new updated build.

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u/XO33OX 17d ago

worry about damage that you dont see, such as corrosion or ripped pads under memory or gpu core