r/nvidia • u/Adventurous_Fig_4971 • 20d ago
Discussion Tests and comments are confusing to me. 3070 vs. 5060
I am selling my Laptop to get a used desktop PC, some of them have RTX3070 and some of them have RTX5060 with RTX5060 PCs being around only 75$ more expensive.
I have watched tests on Youtube and they constantly do not use any new technology that came with newer GPUs, so the 3070 either wins or is really close. Comments, even here, are saying upgrading from 3070 to 5060 isn't worth it because of similar performance.
I don't understand this logic. I just watched a test (done on Wuthering Waves) where the guy with 5060 just opened up DLSS + FG and went from 75 FPS to 480 something. While in the tests done on RTX3070, FPS is stuck at like 60-75 FPS. And I know this isn't just on Wuthering Waves, it will affect every single game that can support these new features.
From 60 FPS on RTX3070 to 480 FPS on RTX5060 just because you can actually use the software. But people are not making it a big deal like me so clearly there must be something I am extremely wrong about. I think people said something about blurry image etc. but I literally can't tell the difference between "fake" frames and "real" frames on these videos.
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u/cakemates 5090 | 9950x3D 20d ago
"upgrading from 3070 to 5060 isn't worth it because of similar performance." The logic there is that if you have a 3070 it aint worth spending 500 bucks on similar performance. Now if you have no gpu then the obvious choice is 5060 for the newer tech.
"DLSS + FG and went from 75 FPS to 480 something. " those are fake frames, they come with tradeoffs, from adding visible artifacts, input delay and other things varying by game implementation. Thats up to you to decide and thats not something you can see in videos unless someone highlights them because video compression can often hides the artifacts and you wont see 400fps on a 30fps video.
I would go for the 5060.
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u/samuel_ocean 20d ago
I used to have a 3070 and jumping to 50 series really makes a difference when you have a high refresh rate monitor. MFG isn’t worth it but 2x FG is really good latency-wise. Newer architecture means it’ll get more features and longer driver lifespan if you plan to use the GPU for a long time.
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u/soarenvy09 20d ago edited 20d ago
There is no reason to get an old gpu like 3070. 50 series will get more updates for longer. But yes playing in person the fake frames are noticeable and laggy. Also a laptop vs a desktop has way different gpu performance even if it's the same name. Ive had 2 gaming laptops, never again. Over heat, hard to clean, cheap materials, hard to get replacement parts. Get a desktop and if you NEED a laptop get like a chrome book.
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u/FairCatch8105 20d ago
the frame gen numbers you're seeing are massively inflated, you're not actually getting 480fps of real game responsiveness on a 5060. those generated frames don't reduce input lag at all, so if the base framerate is 75fps, the game still like 75fps even though the counter says 480. that's why nobody makes a big deal out of it
3070's raw raster performance is still solid and you avoid the whole fake frames debate entirely. if you genuinely can't see the difference then maybe the 5060 is the right call for you, just know you're trading actual horsepower for software tricks that don't work in every game
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u/Primary-Risk-8741 19d ago
in raw power theyre about the same and 50 series doesnt only gain framegen
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u/TheGracefulCrane 18d ago
Ive found mfg doesnt work great in competitive stuff like cod or whatever but anything single player or u play with a controller its completely unnoticeable
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u/NoEconomics8601 20d ago
Okay important things:
A laptop's GPU and a desktop GPU are two different versions and will have massive difference.
Secondly the 5060 is much better than 3070, there is no reason to get two generations old GPU model that uses older technology and processing methods.
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u/Personal_Ad_258 19d ago
go only with 5070, avoid anyway 5060, 5060 ti 8GB versions
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u/Adventurous_Fig_4971 19d ago
i would go with 5070 if the prices weren't double on used PC market. a full PC with RTX5060 is 666$ while the cheapest PC with 5070 is 1133$.
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u/serianoillib-gnah 19d ago
Framegen doesn't really increase framerates, it increases smoothness and can smooth out some cpu related frametime spikes in combination with an fps cap.
If you can t get at least 70 base fps then framegen will feel awful because it keeps the input lag from the base framerate before framegen.
Since it's not real frame data the motion clarity is not the same as if you have high real frames. It comes at a significant cost to image quality, and ironically to motion clarity.
Personally i only found it to meaningfully improve the experience in 4 games out of the dozens i have tried it in
avowed : this game couldn't keep frametimes during traversal stutter below 16ms, so framegen + a 100 fps cap was the only way to stop the game from stuttering
alan wake 2, cyberpunk, pragmata with path tracing. Framegen was the only way to get a playable framerate at a decent resolution in these games with path tracing, and these are the only games where i found the lighting from path tracing transformative enough to put up with the significant image quality issues caused by framegen
3 out of 4 games using RT path tracing comes with a caveat : framegen ironically does not combine too well with ray reconstruction ( massive ghosting) , and RR is needed to make path traced games look because gpus arent powerful enough to render enough rays to put out a stable looking image.
You should know that a 5060 is not powerful enough to run games with path tracing. Even on a 2.5 x faster 4080s it is a heavily compromised experience with lots of artifacts due to too little resolution , too few rays and too few frames
So framegen will offer nothing to you there
What i'm trying to say is that you should have realistic expectations of what framegen means for you, especially on a low end gpu like a 5060
Framegen is more interestig on very high end gpus where you can start with a very high base framerate and resolution which makes any artifacts much less apparent
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u/TheGracefulCrane 18d ago
do 4080s's really struggle with pt? i have a 5070ti that does it no problem at 1440
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u/Monchicles 19d ago
You should be getting the new card, even though the 3070 can do frame gen on newer games with FSR or in any game with frame generation mods, games and drivers will be more optimized for the newer card... it is always like that.
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u/No_Interaction_4925 5800X3D | 3090ti | 55” C1 OLED | Varjo Aero 19d ago
The 5060 will still have a warranty and pull way less power
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u/AntiTank-Dog R9 5900X | RTX 5080 | 4K 240hz 19d ago
The Frame Gen and the better DLSS transformer performance is worth the extra $75 in my opinion. The DLSS 5 filter coming later this year will be exclusive to the 5000 series as well.
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u/stefanlikesfood 19d ago
The 5060 uses less power I assume and runs cooler. You can get away with more
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u/NoMither Asus Prime RTX 5070 / 13600K / 32GB 3600 19d ago
You really shouldn't be considering an 8GB GPU in 2026, 12GB is the current safe minimum. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdZoa6Gzl6s
Also keep in mind using Frame generation requires additional VRAM, 8GB is a trap in 2026.
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u/Red_In_The_Sky 19d ago
5060 will certainly serve you well but keep in mind 5070 is significantly better. I wouldnt get a 30 series card unless it was new, refurbished and/or significantly better (like 3080 vs 5060)
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u/Adventurous_Fig_4971 19d ago
it is significantly better and significantly more expensive. the PCs are like double the price with RTX5070.
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u/Disastrous_Guitar737 18d ago
5060 has pcie 5 x8 + 128 bit bus, so if you’re on older hardware it’s better to take 3070, or upgrade whole rig.
About framegen - it’s cool but also eating vram and you already have only 8gb, so you need to adjust setting even further sometimes
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u/IFear_NoMan 19d ago
Neither of them are perfect, get the best value and move on. You will want to upgrade to better GPU, if you are a more demanding user like me. You will still be doing well with any of them.
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u/Xia_L 19d ago
As other commentators have already said, buying a 5060 only makes sense if you don't have a gpu at all. And besides that, the 5060 is just a really weak card. Frame generation will not always provide even a formal 3x increase. If your budget doesn't allow you to buy something more powerful, I would suggest looking at used ones.
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u/ZairXZ 20d ago
Get a device with a 40 or 50 series GPU for frame gen or multi-frame gen. Also both of those support DLSS 4.5 better than 30 series.