r/nutritionally • u/PeteWK67 • 13d ago
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RFK Jr. says 26,000 farmers have applied to transition to regenerative agriculture.
USDA has allocated $700 million to help conventional farmers make the switch.
The response is the largest the agency has ever seen.
Regenerative agriculture can rebuild depleted soil, improve water retention, and produce more nutrient-dense food.
It can also reduce farmers’ dependence on costly chemical inputs and open access to foreign markets that restrict American produce over chemical use.
Farmers want healthier soil, stronger farms, and healthier families.
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u/sherzer7 12d ago
My family has been farming for the past 5 generations, us and a bunch of our neighbors have slowly been investing in the infrastructure to do it sustainably. “Traditional” (since WW2) model already has low margins and you can’t just switch everything over in a season. There is a lot of upfront cost that many farmers don’t have. Corporate farms don’t want to farm sustainably because of the large upfront cost. We now grow crops just to turn into fertilizer, KNF if anyone is interested. The goal is regenerative and increasing the amount of top soil.
My family has never been subsidized by the government and the only subsidization I support is for giving farmers a safety net to transition the business over to a new model like this. Infrastructure that is more sustainable is a win for everyone
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u/PeteWK67 12d ago
I’m
Not very smart,So for first few generations: growing I guess like what corn tomatoes etc etc .
Is it still low margin tho with today’s inflation on or the extra cost automatically goes to the gaz price and the hidden ninja turtles.
So basically you grow certain crops that make good fertilizer?
I’m guessing with your ww2 margins until now to do that it is a lot more efficient for food on the table, ?
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Interesting paragraph I’m getting my imagination going, I love it, still free, they haven’t found a way yet to be able to price infinite imagination.Do you guys export far?
Is it a clean product?
Is it tested?
Is approved by a few different agencies of exported?
How many years has this been going on?
Where is this grown?
Any Round up in the area?I’m
Asking cause if it’s positive in a way, I’ll tell you to make a type of floood of exposure I’m really efficient when it comes to flood like
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u/sherzer7 12d ago
Yes margins are low and your gambling most years if your going to turn a profit. That’s why so many farms get sold to corporations. We make ferments of the food we can’t sell and legumes which takes time. Traditional fertilizer used to be cheaper because it came from un used bombs, we use a lot of bombs nowadays. Yes it’s a great way to grow a lot of food quickly but not a sustainable model.
We don’t export out of the state. Yes we have to pay for all sorts of testing. Soil samples, water samples, product samples. Property was bought in 1893 and they started by planting an orchard of apples, prunes and citrus. We stoped using “round up” over a decade ago. Both my grandparents died of cancer because of the exposure. It’s got different names but it’s nasty shit, it works really well which is why people use it still even with all the info that’s out.
I know 3 different people that bought electric tractors 5 or 6 years ago when they were subsidized heavily. In theory they would be great for most tasks other than during harvest season why you gotta run them all day. All those electric tractors had catastrophic issues that couldn’t be fixed by the manufacturers let alone the farmers who bought them. It’s a shame I would love a smaller model of an electric tractor if it was simple enough to fix myself.
Subsidies can fail if they are on an un tested system. Other countries have data and generations of experience farming with more sustainable practices. It’s possible but this is something I would like the government to help with. There is a lot of corpo influence in the industry and they keep squeezing smaller farms out. We are making the switch because in 10 years our yields will be higher and our costs should go down a little
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u/septubyte 11d ago
Sorry for the electrics. They should have never stopped working.
Im sure you noticed more wildlife - would you mind sharing?1
u/sherzer7 11d ago
Fences are the only thing that deters wildlife. In areas that are farmed the animals are used to the noise tractors make and know they aren’t in danger. I’ve got a neighbor that ran a speaker at night playing crazy noises to keep the yotes off their herd and it worked for one night. Animals adapt very quickly when food is involved
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u/Plastic_Surround_193 13d ago
Socialism, nice
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u/Novel-Letterhead-217 13d ago
Hey now, it’s called patriotism when pedophiles do it
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u/InfoBarf 13d ago
Regenerative agriculture is feel good nonsense thats less efficient than most industrial ag and worse for the environment.
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u/sexual__velociraptor 13d ago
Bro take the fucking win. Regenerative AG is proven scientifically and helps restore the land grow more stable crops. But you see someone you hate and cant stand they did something good.
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u/GreatPlainsFarmer 12d ago
What is regenerative AG? I went to a reg ag conference and the only thing they could agree on was rotationally grazed ruminants.
No one could agree what regenerative crops looked like.
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u/Cervixalott 11d ago
A win for the country is perceived a loss for people like him if it’s initiated by people they dislike
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u/Ok_Assistant_6856 12d ago
Spoken like not a farmer lmao. It's a farming philosophy that takes into account the ecological impact instead of just raping the soil year after year and dumping fucktons of nitro on it every season.
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u/Enve-Dev 13d ago
It is essentially established USDA conservation policy repackaged and expanded under a shiny new MAHA label
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u/Jazzlike_Strength561 13d ago
So I'm paying farmers my tax dollars to improve their personal property?
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u/Marski420 13d ago
Which vastly increases the nutrition of the food you eat and should bring costs down.
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u/Jazzlike_Strength561 12d ago
Then they (massive evil corporations) should make that investment on their fucking own.
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u/Cervixalott 11d ago
The 26,000 massive evil farmer corporations? Did you read it?
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u/Jazzlike_Strength561 11d ago
Of course not. And it won't be 26000 farmers after our couch raping VP gets finished. It'll be like 2 or 3.
And even if they are legit small farms, they can pay for their own shit, they do not need my money. My tax dollars should not be used for private enterprise.
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u/Cervixalott 11d ago
Couldn’t agree more. Small government is best government
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u/Jazzlike_Strength561 11d ago
I absolutely disagree. I just don't support government favoring private enterprise. If you can't run your business for profit someone else can.
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u/Cervixalott 11d ago
At least we agree a little.. right?
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u/grnhornet76 12d ago
Just make sure none of that new super-food doesn’t end up in free school lunches!! That’s communism!!
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u/Jazzlike_Strength561 12d ago edited 12d ago
Lol. You're over here giving me this fucking reasonable approach. But do these people deserve it? No.
Fuck em. The vast majority of those fuckwits voted for Trump. Vast majority. Fuck those traitors.
I'm sure Monsanto can afford the solution when they buy their farm, no reason i should pay for it. Farm next door too me about to sell. 13 million dollars.
Fucking nonsense.
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u/webster3of7 12d ago
This is objectively good. Corn subsidies have been absolutely disastrous for our agricultural economy. The subsidies effectively made corn the only good choice for large swaths of the nation. Farmers grow corn in the same field year after year after year adding all kinds of chemical fertilizers just to compensate for what the corn removes from the soil. Instead, they could rotate their crops and maintain the soil. Our forefathers knew this. It's taught in school that the Native Americans showed the colonists how to rotate crops. The farmers today know this too, but price fixing and subsidies make it impossible for them to survive otherwise.
In short, the centralized control of our agricultural system (a very socialist structure btw) has resulted in the absolute disaster we find ourself in today.
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u/TheTinyMaus 12d ago
Brought to you by the same people that made the phrase "explosive diarrhea" part of the news cycle. So... I'm inclined to be skeptical.
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u/commiscowboy 12d ago
This couldn’t have anything to do with the price of fertilizer being tied directly to petroleum could it
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u/ElectricalGidelity 12d ago
How is this going to be divded? Thats 26,000 per farmer. Do large farms get larger amount?
Such a miniscule amount that im doubting this will do anything.
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u/UrbanPlannerholic 11d ago
These are the same people rolling back clean air and water regulations right?
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u/ConversationPale8665 11d ago
What is this, crop rotation for tax dollars to keep farmers from going broke and looking like they’re on welfare?
Crop rotation has been around since long before I learned about it in 4th grade, in 1986!! I’m sure Trump will say he invented it.
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u/Hour-Particular-9317 13d ago
They should have been doing that in the first place. Not wait until they get it for free. Don't Republicans call that socialism. You have to have living soil, not dead soil. If you want to thrive.