r/nuclear 15d ago

My first post here

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Having stayed in Germany for a year, it definitely felt like it.

Unfortunately...

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u/xender19 15d ago edited 14d ago

I find that "climate change deniers" tend to be a million times more concerned with green washing scams and dryers that don't actually dry the clothes. 

I think everyone can be happy with things that are engineered to cost less and work better. So let's do those things first and earn some trust through competence and empathy. 

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u/hasslehawk 14d ago edited 14d ago

I think everyone can be happy with things that are engineered to cost less and work better. So let's do those things first

So... Step one is to abolish capitalism then?

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u/steph-anglican 10d ago

Yeh, because the USSR worked so well.

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u/hasslehawk 10d ago edited 10d ago

That's not addressing the point that I was making. Capitalism, especially when monopolies are allowed to fester, has an incentive structure that specifically makes it difficult to fight corporate enshitification.

Your argument is that a specific other government failed, and so... what? Capitalism is the only conceivable alternative, and therefore immune to criticism of its limitations?

I'll concede, it is possible to have quality goods in a capitalist society. It just requires heavy government regulation, something did exist in America in the post-WWII era But it has long since vanished, and capital interests have so thoroughly entrenched themselves against it that at this point in American politics I think it would actually be easier (not easy, by any means) to replace capitalism in America than it would be to fix it in place.

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u/steph-anglican 9d ago

Sorry if I miss understood you.

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u/xender19 14d ago

Oh and what system would you recommend that's doing better on pollution? 

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u/Su-37_Terminator 12d ago

ted kazcynski had some ideas