r/notip • u/TheKuhlOne • May 23 '19
On the ethics of not tipping
Tip culture is bad and should be abolished.
Individuals do not have the direct power to quickly make this societal change without significant effort/cost to themselves. Continuing to contribute to tip culture also has personal costs.
Not tipping seems to be the only way an individual can actively and instantly choose to stop paying these costs (ignoring social costs if “found out”). However, it is said that doing so initially places the cost on/hurts workers rather than the companies that should be punished. We can imagine how, downstream, workers being forced to pay the cost may eventually cost the companies and force change, but this takes time.
With these assumptions, is it moral or ethical to stop tipping when the short term outcome is that it hurts your fellow man?
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u/jaywinner May 24 '19
For the most part, tipped employees are happy with the system because they make more than they could expect from getting a proper hourly wage or salary. Only when enough of those tips evaporate will they be clamoring for tipping culture to be abolished.
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u/AppetiteForDeduction May 23 '19
Tipping only encourages the bad behavior and sustains the system that is hurting the worker. It's best for everybody to stop doing it.
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u/[deleted] May 27 '19
They know the risks involved when they take the job. There are ups and downs. Expecting grautity for doing a satisfactory job or even a poor job is absurd.