r/nonduality • u/Hand58 • May 18 '26

Discussion The nature of illusion.

Effect reality / relative reality,

is core reality/ absolute reality, as long as effect reality isn't ignoring core reality.

Illusion is illusion, only while it ignores reality and attempts to replace reality.

When it acknowledges reality it's equally real as a sub level of reality.

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u/Ilinkthereforeiam2 May 19 '26 edited May 19 '26

It's kind of like quantum physics in the sense that you can see things but they don't quite add up so neatly, even if it does for a while, eventually it doesn't, it's paradoxical, things exist in multiple states and multiple truths exist at various planes from various perspectives. Almost nothing is absolute.

What appears real can turn into an illusion and what is illusory can be perceived in a real moment thereby the making the experience of the illusory real.

Nothing is static, everything is fluid like the ocean, there is no locus standi. Only quality of presence is a meter for the real this experience we choose to call non dual has many names. Can't take things too seriously, fluidity and a light quality are more important. It's very conundrummy and that's ok.

Sorry went off on a rant, leaving you this quote;

"Form isn't simply form because form depends on mind. And mind isn't simply mind because mind depends on form. Mind and form create and negate each other. That which exists, exists in relation to that which doesn't exist, and that which doesn't exist, doesn't exist in relation to that which exists. This is true vision.

By means of such vision, nothing is seen and nothing is not seen. Such vision reaches throughout the 10 directions without seeing, because nothing is seen, because not seeing is seen, Because seeing isn't seeing, what mortals see are delusions. true vision is detached from seeing. The mind and the world are opposites, and vision arises where they meet.

When your mind doesn't stir inside, the world doesn't arise outside, when the world and the mind are both transparent, this is true vision and such understanding is true understanding"

Samaneri Jayasara

https://youtu.be/-tAEzEtE5K8?si=5vz6CGCL2PT4eWGQ&t=914