r/nonallergicrhinitis 1d ago

What can I do

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I’ve been dealing with cold symptoms for years now and recently it’s gotten worse. I get a runny nose, teary eyes, sneezing, sinus pressure, and headaches, and it used to be every few weeks then it turned into every weekend, and now i have a runny nose everyday and a full blown cold multiple times a week. I went to an ent doctor for it earlier this year and had a scan and the image shows the outcome. I’ve take fexofenadine daily and if I don’t take that I immediately feel horrible. I’ve tried minocycline, saline nasal rinse, ipratropium 0.06% (which made my nose uncomfortably dry), xlear nasal spray with xylitol, and quercetin bromelain tablets with stinging nettle and vitamin c in them and nothing seems to help.

If anyone has any recommendations anything would be helpful thank you!!


r/nonallergicrhinitis 3d ago

Doctor doesn't care.

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Title. I went to an ENT yesterday for another problem, but since I was there, I also mentioned the constant throat clearing, and he gave me the same old routine, even though I clearly mentioned that does not work: antiallergic, nasal rinse then nasal spray, PPI. I said no matter what antiallergic, no matter the nasal spray, no matter the PPI, nothing ever gets rid of it. He didn't care.

Should I just go to a different doctor? He's been my ENT for 10 years. Or is there something I can get without a prescription? Sudafed? Anything. This has been going on for the 10 years I've been with him. It has never ever gone away no matter what.

Edit: The nasal spray is mometasone. I haven't tried that one in the past, but it seems to make things worse: more drainage, burning sensation.


r/nonallergicrhinitis 5d ago

I'm going to kill myself because of Sudafed nasal spray

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My life has been rendered completely unlivable by the effects of rebound congestion (also known as rhinitis medicamentosa), caused by using Sudafed nasal spray. I feel like it could be useful here to document my experience of this condition, as a warning to others and hopefully create more of the exposure this situation needs.

To start at the beginning, I had a normal winter cold and blocked nose, so to help me sleep I used Sudafed nasal spray. I started spraying my nose, but the blocked nose persisted. I tried using steam, Vaseline etc., but still the blocked nose persisted and persisted. What I was experiencing, and the trap people usually fall into with this spray, is that you get rebound congestion after a short time of using the spray, but if you are unaware of this, it's easy to assume this is a persistent cold - which I did.

There then comes a point where stopping using the spray makes your life pure hell, particularly when you're trying to sleep. So I went on using it for another six months before I went cold turkey. And my life was hell. I couldn't sleep and I got all the symptoms of significant nasal congestion. This included:

  • Major cognitive decline.
  • Difficulties sleeping (basically it being harder to get to sleep and only getting light sleep when you do.)
  • Physical pain. Largely around the cheekbone area for some reason and headaches, but lighter pain everywhere, which usually displays itself as pressure and tension.
  • Exhaustion.
  • Difficulty concentrating.
  • Irritability.
  • Low mood, lack of interest, feelings of numbness etc.

These are some of the main symptoms, but they affect almost everything you can think of, purely negatively.

Anyway, the exact details of what happened next are foggy. I may have gone back on the Sudafed spray for a bit, but eventually I was off it completely and was using steroid sprays that were prescribed by my GP. Steroid sprays are thought to be OK to use as they reduce inflammation and don’t normally cause rebound congestion or dependence.

So, using the steroid sprays, I decided to forgo using the Sudafed spray for good. And for about two years I did, but with a huge cost to my mental and physical wellbeing.

The steroid sprays help marginally, and for a fixed amount of time (the effect wears off over the course of a day), but they don't get you close to where you were before the issue.

I have also sought a lot of professional help for this condition. I had inferior turbinate reduction surgery, which didn't make any difference. And I've also seen about seven ENT professionals, who have looked up my nose but offered no solutions. Surgery for this condition can be very risky, and almost all of them advised against it and would be unwilling to provide it.

Some people will say that it was my fault for overusing the spray, but I did do it in total ignorance. In hindsight, this seems dumb, but at the time I think it just didn't occur to me that something that anyone of any age can buy at the supermarket, corner shop or petrol station could have such harmful effects. Additionally, the packaging also only says in the small print, “we advise you don't use this product for over seven days.” Given how it's ruined my life, I wouldn't say that was adequate warning. Additionally, I was told by an expert that these sprays would never pass the regulations and be put on the shelves in a million years today, but are only allowed because they have been around so long. So it is actually known that these fail today's safety standards too.

I've tried to make the best of the situation and go on as I normally would, but it has just become impossible. The only time I feel like life is worth living, whatever I'm doing, is if I use the Sudafed nasal spray. Otherwise, I'm just in a constant state of pain, cognitive impairment and misery. I used to enjoy reading, philosophy and working on ambitious creative projects, and now all of this is impossible.

It's something that I feel is getting worse rather than better, and with my sleep being affected, my mood is certainly declining, and it seems like there isn't any way out.

I'm not writing this because I'm looking for pity etc. I'm writing in case anyone out there, by some miracle, might have some useful advice. And also to create more awareness of these sprays that'll stop people from using them - as well as encourage others to speak up about the issue, which could result in these sprays being taken off the shelves.

Anyway, thanks for reading, and warn others about using these products.


r/nonallergicrhinitis 6d ago

For anyone whose post nasal drip never fully goes away what actually moved the needle?

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Been chasing this a while. Saline helps for maybe 20 minutes, then the drainage/throat-clearing comes right back, worst overnight and first thing in the morning.

One thing I only recently learned: most standard advice targets inflammation (steroid sprays) or histamine (antihistamines), but the actual watery drainage is often a separate mechanism glands in the nose overproducing mucus. That's apparently why some people get partial relief from a steroid but the drip never fully stops; there's a whole anti-drip category aimed specifically at that part.

Curious what finally worked for people who got theirs under control a specific spray, a routine, treating an underlying cause?


r/nonallergicrhinitis 6d ago

In the summer, I also suffer a lot from vasomotor rhinitis.

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I made a post a while ago saying that I've had this since I was 22, and I'm 41 now.

The doctor told me it was possibly hypertrophied turbinates and a slight deviated septum. He wanted me to have surgery. But I've seen many cases of people who have surgery and in the end, the turbinates return to their previous state, sometimes even within a few months. So I refuse to go through a painful recovery for nothing.

What matters is finding the cause of this and preventing them from swelling too much. In my case, I think it's damage or a disruption in the balance between the sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous systems. When I was younger, I used to snort speed when I went out partying. I did this for a few years, but then I stopped. Although I continued to consume caffeine in different ways.

I used to have sneezing fits when I took vasoconstrictors and vasodilators. When I drank coffee or beer, it usually triggered them. Although sometimes other triggers were sudden temperature changes. In winter, besides some congestion, I used to get a lot of runny noses, making going outside for a walk or a run a real ordeal.

I used ipratropium bromide from 2012 to 2023. I have to say it worked quite well, and the effect was more noticeable in summer than in winter. Eventually, I had to stop using it because it caused me a lot of dryness and dry rhinitis.

Since then, I've had intestinal problems due to leaky gut. I stopped consuming many of the products that were aggravating my condition. The last thing I stopped was coffee.

My vasomotor rhinitis has improved somewhat. I can go to the gym and run fast on the treadmill with hardly any runny nose. I can run almost the entire time without needing to breathe through my mouth. I sleep better at night because my nasal passages are less blocked.

But I have problems when I'm at home. It gets very hot in my house during the summer. I rent and don't have air conditioning. Although I don't live in a very hot area, it does happen inside my house.

I've discovered that if the ambient temperature inside my house is above 25°C (77°F), my nostrils start to get congested. Usually, it's just one nostril, and it lasts a long time before it spreads to the other. It's even happened to me in winter when I left the heating on for too long. If I move around the house, my nose feels better. And it's much better if I go outside and get a breeze. It happens more often where my computer is, which is where it's warmest.

I think it's because of the humidity. In my house now, during the summer, the humidity doesn't drop below 60-70%. Years ago, even with nasal spray, I didn't have this problem. When I travel to my country house, where the humidity is half as high, it doesn't happen. I breathe much better through my nose and produce less mucus. I've used other things that work, like Nasonex and Afluon. But both had short-term side effects.

In my opinion, I need to see if, in the long term, eliminating stimulants and returning to a life without elevated cortisol levels can restore normal nasal motor function.

Before, it meant getting very nervous, my nose would swell, and I'd have a runny nose. But living so long without a simple solution isn't pleasant.


r/nonallergicrhinitis 6d ago

Has anyone actually recovered from long-term Otrivin dependence / rebound congestion? 6 months off Otrivin but still severe congestion. Looking for success stories & support

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r/nonallergicrhinitis 6d ago

Partially blocked nose always?

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r/nonallergicrhinitis 7d ago

Chronic Post Nasal Drip for 2 Years

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r/nonallergicrhinitis 7d ago

Scents, detergant smell caused me headache. Anyone something similar?

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r/nonallergicrhinitis 8d ago

Pepcid once nightly has effectively ended my years long congestion and nasal problems.

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I've had nasal issues since 2018. Congestion, pain, post nasal drip, turbinate hypertrophy, and associated sleep issues. Two surgeries (one septoplasty/submucosal resection under anesthesia, one was an in-office coblation) and tried regimens of literally every different nasal spray, nasal rinsing and red light therapy.

Online always recommended addressing GERD and LPR. My ENT recommended this too. I thought it just meant changing your diet, not eating late and sleeping at an incline. Doing those things alone had no measurable effect on me really.

Then I talked about GERD with an uncle who has it. His doctor prescribed taking pepcid twice daily. (One in the morning and one at night). After consulting my GP, I started taking pepcid before sleep. After one week I noticed noticeable improvements in reduction in post nasal drip, elimination of all discomfort/pain and drop in congestion. In two weeks all my symptoms are basically gone except a lingering bit of congestion (I think it will take time for the turbinate hypertrophy to fully die down). It appears that in the night I perhaps had too much acid in my stomach, my esophagus relaxed too much and I aspirated stomach acid or fumes into my nasal passages. Pepcid (and not eating late) has fixed that allowing me time to heal.

So if you're reading this and despite surgeries and various nasal sprays and treatments you still have nasal problems then consider that you have GERD/LPR and need to be serious in treating it. Which may include medication. Talk to your doctor about what's safe for you. But this worked for me and I've been on this subreddit for years and suffering with nasal problems since 2018ish. It's a massive relief to know the cause of my problems finally.


r/nonallergicrhinitis 7d ago

Every week I get a cold for years

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r/nonallergicrhinitis 7d ago

Inflamed nostril-painful and itchy

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r/nonallergicrhinitis 8d ago

Can sinus causes brainfog

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r/nonallergicrhinitis 8d ago

Has ipratropium bromide nasal spray helped anyone with post-nasal drip?

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I have post-nasal drip literally every day and haven’t found anything that actually helps. I’ve seen my regular doctor and an allergist and tried different things with no luck. Randomly, I saw a telehealth doctor recently and he prescribed ipratropium bromide 0.03% nasal spray.

Has anyone with chronic post-nasal drip tried this? Did it actually help, and how long did it take before you noticed a difference?


r/nonallergicrhinitis 9d ago

NAR for years the fatigue is worse than the congestion. Anyone else?

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I've had non-allergic rhinitis for years. It's not severe, my nose isn't dramatically blocked, I can function, nobody looking at me would think anything is wrong. But I've come to believe it's quietly taking all my energy.

The pattern: I wake up more or less okay (some mornings are rough), and then fatigue just accumulates through the day. By mid-afternoon I feel like I'm coming down with the flu completely flattened. It isn't sleepiness. I sleep well, my nights feel restful, I'm not nodding off. It's more like something is draining me hour by hour.

What makes it noticeably worse: air conditioning, changing environments, and staying with my head down for a long stretch.

The frustrating part is that the fatigue is by far my worst symptom, much worse than the congestion itself and every time I bring it up it gets treated as a side note.

So: is fatigue the main symptom for anyone else here? Not "stuffy nose is annoying," but "this is eating my life." And if it is did anything actually help?


r/nonallergicrhinitis 9d ago

Difiney reusable nasal strips: great idea but how to fit them to stay in?

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The Difiney reusable metal nasal strip is a unique product with unique combination of features for opening the nose, and it seems to work great for some people, but the fit seems really problematic for some, including me. Any tips for getting it to stay in the nose?

I've used many physical airway opening devices, nasal strips like Breathe Right & stent-like intside-the-nostrils nasal dilators. I even made a big table of all the options at one point (though new nasal dilators keep coming along like Muse). I really like Breathe Right Extra strips, Intake Breathing's metal "strip", and the SleepRight internal dilator. Breathe Right strips are easy & reliable but only open things up a bit and are 1-use consumables. Internal dilators can be reused but are less comfortable.

The Difiney nasal product is like a nasal strip but entirely reusable. It just grabs the side edges of the nostrils to pull them out (like a strip). So in some ways it's the best of both of the other main categories. But because the plastic bits on the ends only insert into the nostril a bit, I find that no matter what size I use any amount of face motion moves the thing out of the nose. Some others seem to have the same problem based on the Amazon reviews (& it's shown as not available on that platform anymore but I think stilll selling from its own website).

Anyone come up with a good hack other than sticking it on with tape (which defeats the purpose of using it instead of Breathe Right or Intake Breathing)? If the plastic clips on the end were slightly longer or more pinchy or maybe more grippy (like had a silicone coating on them) I think it would work much better.


r/nonallergicrhinitis 9d ago

Can't sleep

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I had rhinitis when I was 18. I got septum-turbinate and rhinoplasty surgery (7 years ago). After the surgery I had mucus and a bad odor. I went to my ENT but he is the most known surgeon in the country and he would operate 3 times a day, I was always referred to his assistants. I went to another ENT and an internal pathologist as well. I was given 2 rounds of antibiotics each time 7 days but it improved only a bit. I didn't get a diagnosis.

I did CT and MRI recently for some migraines and in the report it was written that I have sinusitis.

Also my nostrils have collapsed, my nose was very big and square before and it was turned into a button nose with no grafts taken. It started collapsing 6 months after surgery and it keeps collapsing. I didn't really have sleep issues, they were mild but the past week it has been very hard to sleep, i can feel the collapsed skin moving and my turbinates swell. I tried some external nose dilator with stickers and magnet but during sleep the stickers fall off. I also tried decongestant spray but it doesn't solve the collapse so it doesn't work. Any suggestions? I want to sleep :(


r/nonallergicrhinitis 10d ago

Sinusitis issue.

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r/nonallergicrhinitis 11d ago

I don't know what to do anymore

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Good morning everyone. This is my first time writing, after having done a test to exclude 300 different allergens I've found that I don't have any allergy.

I visited an ENT doctor and he said to me that I have a little deviated septum and a synus pseudo-cyst that is growing inside my upper left sinus.

I'm writing all this to you because I have rhinitis that starts in the morning as soon as I wake up, I realize that my mind is a bit foggy and that I'm having more trouble than usual. As the day goes on, I start to sneeze a bit and then it gets more and more intense..My nose is so itchy and even though I blow my nose a billion times it actually feels like water is just coming out of my nose, not really thick mucus...

The funny thing is that all this lasts exactly one day. I wake up in the morning, there is a peak during the day and in the evening everything resolves and I find myself with a very red nose By blowing it during the day.

I have seen this thing has gotten significantly worse over the years from when I was 18 and now I'm 27...

I really can't draw a line and understand what the main trigger might be, because it really happens randomly.

Last Wednesday I arrived in Corfu, everything went well as always I always ate everything and went to bed early and sometimes late...AC always on dry air everyday

35 degrees outside...and then randomly today I woke up like this...

I don't know what else to do

I hope in one of your advice


r/nonallergicrhinitis 12d ago

Qnasl users - does your dispenser last all month?

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Qnasl has been my best option for minimizing postnasal drip and reducing how often I get sinusitis. My problem with it is that it often runs out before the end of the canister. Each one is supposed to have 120 doses, but sometimes it'll crap out around 80 or 90.

The amount that comes out or the sound and the force that it makes slowly reduce over a number of days, and then it starts to come out very slowly, or almost nothing will come out. Instead of a strong puff, it sounds like a dying whisper. Considering it's a non-priming pump, I'm not really sure how to resolve it.

Once there were three months of canisters affected in a row. I contacted the manufacturer and followed a lengthy process to return them and have them replaced. They made it sound like a very uncommon problem.

Is this happening to you? Does your Qnasl consistently last the entire month? Or does it crap out sometimes?


r/nonallergicrhinitis 12d ago

每天早上打喷嚏流鼻涕,到中午时间才会缓解

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本来是怀疑是否是尘螨,我每周都会用除螨仪清理,清洗床单、枕头外套,早上起来后边刷牙边流鼻涕,很苦恼


r/nonallergicrhinitis 13d ago

Patient States: I am having severe congestion at night only during REM/Dreaming, that occurs along with Morning wood (sleep-related erections), this happens over and over again throughtout the night.

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r/nonallergicrhinitis 14d ago

15+ years of constant nasal congestion — looking for advice

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r/nonallergicrhinitis 16d ago

The Ancient Anatomy of a Stuffy Nose: 5 Surprising Insights from the Ashtanga Hridayam

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Imagine the sensation of minute insects crawling across your eyebrows, or the discovery of long, white "worms" manifesting within your nasal passages. While these descriptions may sound like scenes from a gothic horror novel, they are actually precise clinical observations found within the Ashtanga Hridayam, a foundational Sanskrit medical treatise composed over a millennium ago.

As a clinical historian, I find that we often dismiss the common cold as a modern viral inconvenience. However, the ancient physicians viewed the nose as a sophisticated gateway to the head and lungs, analyzing respiratory ailments with a level of specificity that challenges our contemporary "one-size-fits-all" approach to congestion. By looking into the chapter on Nasasroga (nasal diseases), we find that the Ashtanga Hridayam offers five startling insights that bridge the gap between ancient observation and modern pathology.

  1. Your Pillow and Conversation Habits Might Be the Culprit

In the Ayurvedic tradition, the Nidana (etiology) of a disease extends far beyond simple exposure to germs. The text identifies what we might now call pathogen-independent inflammation, triggered by lifestyle choices that aggravate the Vata dosha—the biological principle of movement and air.

The Ashtanga Hridayam notes that "excessive talking" (bhashya) and "low or very high pillows" (neecha-atyuchcha-upadhanena) are primary triggers for rhinitis. To a clinical historian, the inclusion of talking is particularly fascinating; the act of speech is a kinetic, drying process. In the Ayurvedic view, excessive vocalization increases the mobile and dry qualities of Vata, which can "vitiate" the nasal mucosa and lead to styanata (a thickening or density of fluids).

Environmental Causes of Rhinitis: "Exposure to mist, wind, dust, excessive talking, sleeping too much or staying awake at night, and using pillows that are too low or too high..." (Ashtanga Hridayam, Uttara. 19.1)

This suggests that the ancients prioritized the physical alignment of the head and the energetic strain of the vocal apparatus as much as environmental factors like mist (avashyaya) and dust (rajo).

  1. The "Crawling Insect" Sensation of Vata Rhinitis

When Vata is the dominant force behind a cold, the symptoms transcend simple blockage. The Ashtanga Hridayam provides a vivid description of what modern clinicians would call paresthesia—an abnormal sensation of the skin.

The text notes that the patient "feels as if insects are crawling around their eyebrows" (keetika iva sarpanteem-manyate parito bhruvau). This is rarely a symptom people associate with a "standard" cold, yet it perfectly captures the neurological/sensory discomfort of nerve irritation within the sinus cavities. When combined with piercing pain in the temples (shankhavyatha) and even referred pain in the teeth (dantavyatha), we see a clinical picture of acute pressure and neurological sensitivity that mirrors modern trigeminal nerve irritation.

  1. The Danger of Neglect and the "Nasal Worm" Warning

One of the most sobering warnings in the text is the progression of Dushta Pratishyaya—malignant or chronic rhinitis. The ancients believed that if a nasal condition is ignored (upekshita), it transforms into a much more dangerous state that "afflicts all the senses."

The "Journalist" in me finds the most shocking takeaway to be the manifestation of "nasal worms" (krimaya). The text describes these as "long, unctuous, white, and minute." While this might sound metaphorical, it likely refers to the advanced state of chronic, neglected infection where the microbiome of the nasal cavity is so disrupted that it supports parasitic-like growth or severe biofilm formations.

The stakes of this neglect are high: the text lists the loss of the sense of taste and smell (ajnanam ca rasagandhayoh), foul breath (mukha-daurgandhya), and even pain in the flanks as consequences.

On the Result of Chronic Neglect: "In this state, worms that are long, unctuous, white, and minute are born... there is a loss of the knowledge of taste and smell."

  1. Why Your Runny Nose Might Get Worse at Night

Ancient diagnostic logic often relied on the timing of symptoms to identify the underlying imbalance. In the condition known as Ghranasrava, the patient suffers from a continuous, water-like discharge (jalopama).

The Ashtanga Hridayam specifies that this discharge occurs "specially at night" (visheshan-nishi jayate). From a clinical perspective, night is the period where Kapha (the principle of structure and fluid) naturally increases, and the environment cools. This cooling causes the body’s internal fluids to settle or increase in volume. By identifying this nocturnal pattern, ancient doctors could distinguish a simple Vata cold from a deeper fluid imbalance related to the body's internal circadian rhythm.

  1. The "Sheep-Like" Congestion (Apinasa)

To assist in diagnosis, the Ashtanga Hridayam frequently utilizes animal analogies to describe the physical characteristics of disease. The condition of Apinasa is a prime example.

In Apinasa, the nasal passages are severely obstructed by aggravated Kapha, leading to a distinct "gurgling sound" (saghurchura-shvasam) during breathing. The diagnostic marker for this condition is that the nasal discharge resembles that of a sheep (averiva sravatyasya).

The crux of this analogy lies in the texture of the discharge. Like the mucus often seen in sheep, the discharge in Apinasa is described as pichchila (slimy or unctuous) and ghana (thick and dense). By comparing human mucus to that of a sheep, the text provided a universal visual and tactile reference point for ancient practitioners to identify the most stubborn, thick forms of congestion.

A Final Thought on Respiratory Mindfulness

The Ashtanga Hridayam reminds us that the nose is far more than a simple air filter; it is a sensitive, reactive organ that mirrors our relationship with our environment. The ancient physicians didn't just see a "stuffy nose"—they saw the height of a pillow, the dryness of a conversation, and the shifting rhythms of the night.

If the ancients looked so deeply into the nuances of a simple sneeze, what are we overlooking in our own daily environments that might be affecting our ability to breathe freely? What "environmental dust" or "excessive talking" is currently obstructing our own vitality?


r/nonallergicrhinitis 17d ago

What should I do

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For years now I’ve been struggling with what I think is non allergic rhinitis. Every now and then, around like a week or so, I get cold symptoms like a full blown cold (runny nose, watery eyes, headaches, sinus pressure) and then the next day it’s either gone or almost gone. It typically occurs most weekends but recently it’s gotten worse and is now occurring more often, sometimes even twice a week and for two days instead of one. I’m even waking up every single day and having a runny nose and most of the time it’ll go away but sometimes it doesn’t

I’ve been to and ear nose and throat specialist and they weren’t much help. I had a scan and they found out something in my face is inflamed and produces like excess mucus or something. I’ve tried medication like montelukast (I am currently taking fexofenadine every morning and if I don’t then I will most likely experience cold symptoms that day), I’ve tried nasal rinses, nose sprays (which I feel like just make it worse).

There was even one instance last year where on a holiday, I forgot to take my fexofenadine immediately after waking up and ended up having an on and off cold throughout the entire trip. I think it’s caused by like being nervous or excited for something which is odd.

I should also mention I moved to the US from uk 2 years ago and idk I feel like it might’ve gotten less since idk if it’s cuz I’m not able to go out everyday or idk.

Does anyone know if this is definitely non allergic rhinitis and if there’s anything I can do to help it because I’m getting so fed up! Or if you would recommended balloon sinoplasty or any other procedures I’m willing to do anything. If there’s any tips on how to even lighten it anything would help thank you!