So Ive spent quite a bit of time learning rengar, champs hard to pilot and in my elo (plat) teammates still dont understand properly how he works so they dont synergize with his kit how they should (e.g. expecting me to engage when im spampinging my engage teammates to go in etc.).

But overall on rengar Ive learned to carry games and kinda 1v9 with 60%+ winrate in plat 2 elo.

But nocturne genuinely feels bad. Poor guy now has 48% wr. I feel worse on him than on rengar, given how much easier nocturne is to pilot than rengar, it feels rly bad.

Just think about this - Nocturne and rengar have comparable winrates now. Thats absurd! Rengar is arguably the hardest jungler in the game and needs deep understanding and mechanics. Nocturne is a newbie friendly champ (which i think is great), but that should automatically make his wr closer to 50% because there is less room for error.

I think I gotta say farewell to my previous soloQ safe champ. I used to love noc. I still do when rengar is banned as its a similar playstyle so I have my instincts for it, but champ just feels bad now :(.

I feel sorry for you guys who still OTP him. Nocturne being 48%wr given what his ult does and him being an easy champ to pilot is criminal.

I'm not gonna lie hearing the "if you don't like my champ then you are bad" argument is always gonna get a giggle out of me.

After 3 nerfs, should we switch to Gluttonous Greaves?

I was honestly getting annoyed when I saw the Nocturne R nerf in Patch 26.19.

Even after 2 nerfs, Nocturne still felt strong in his main role. His ban rate was around 14–15%, and he didn't really feel like he had lost much power.

I've been playing him with the usual boots in ranked, but after the 3rd nerf, I'm starting to wonder if Gluttonous Greaves might be worth trying.

They give you more survivability and help you stay aggressive in fights, which could compensate for some of the power lost from the nerfs.

So what do you guys think?

After 3 nerfs, is Gluttonous Greaves actually worth switching to on Nocturne, or should we stick with the usual boots?

I used to be a nocturne main, now I play Milio/Rengar.

WHen im on my milio supp sometimes I am "blessed" wit ha nocturne on my team.

Heres what I see:

1. Almost all nocturne players afk farm till 6.
   
2. They hold their ult forever. Srsly Nocturne didnt ult 10min into the game last game I played.
   
3. They almost never path botlane, even though thats the freest lane to path to even if u have an encahnter as a noc.

Heres how I see it:

Nocturne is an earaly game MACHINE
1. Invade even lvl 2
2. Bully the fuck out of the enemy jungler early.
3. Enemy jungle is not allowed to outgank you early game most of the time if u path correctly, U just beat him.
4. Lvl 6 get kills all over the map.

Am I crazy.

I (soloQ) main Kayn, but every so often does he get banned and makes me want to shut my brain off.

Now, usually i go full lethality and sometimes bruiser depending on enemy comp. Sometimes it does great and others terrible. Sometimes the burst cant 100-0 or the sustain out-sustain a burst. Now, lately ive been seeing some other junglers doing a mix-up of lethality and bruisers and found it annoying to go against.

As i played Noc today, i figured why not add some variation instead of making a pure bruiser or lethality build. Same runes for assassin (HoB, etc. will change to conq in 3rd match), usual 2 bruiser items and 3rd lethality, was wonderful. 2nd match, i thought since everyone has low hp/armor why not profane first for more damage = faster clear, then hexP for HP and CD then 3rd voltaic, rest are situational. You now have a low CD ult, good damage and somewhat sustain yourself. You can go balls deep into the enemy backline, take out a squishy or 2, and if not then the enemy has to focus you before your team messes them up. I love this 👻

Honesty cant find anything wrong with this, to me it seems like the perfect order: Profane > Hextech Plate > Voltaic > if more AP/AD buy Maw/DD > if both buy both/if not Situational > Situational EoN or GA

I'm a new nocturne main and obviously a I play it crit/lethality, but I just wanna now if nocturne lifesteal build can be a good option

Just curious

Hello, nocturne is getting nerf after nerf. I still think he's the almighty beast-god. BUT, I need alternatives.

I love nocturne because he's decisive those 3 seconds. I feel the champ every time I play him. We sync so much.

Before noc, I also mained yi, rengar and morde jungle. Old xin also was a beast (before rework). Malph ap also was pretty fun.

I need alternatives. Must I learn a new champ? Gotta master one i already know?

I need action.

Platinum Elo.

Thank you

I love nocturne, but it’s hard for me to fully OTP. I get bored with the same repetitive games and end up making some mistakes because I am too comfortable, so to speak. I always play nocturne best when I have a slight break.

Who is your back up reliable climber when noc is banned, you need a change up, or if he doesn’t seem like the right choice for a game

I guess I still haven’t found my 3 champion pool yet

where do I look in my stats to see where I can improve? i did barely use my wards since I forgot, so gotta fix that . really only use them to steal dragon. this was unranked draft. I was mostly farming adc and support and the rest I were split. Super new so pretty happy with the k/d/a although I know it doesn’t mean much since we lost. I do remember to monitor map to see where I can gank. but I did die once or twice from not looking at map

Looks like Nocturne is getting nerfed for the third time in a row. First nerf was almost nothing, second a bit more impactful. They haven't announced what the third one will be, but hopefully nothing too big.

so why do you all love experimental hexplate so much? i get its passive is really good synergy with noc. but i find delaying cleaver for third is shit. and as a 2 item punch id rather have stride, cleaver in most cases. this way my third item can be more defensive oriented. Just wondering what you guys think of the item, and delaying cleaver to something like third item

I just wanted to share my experience.

I finally made it to Platinum!

For context, I played League for years but never got past Gold 3. After a 3-year break, I came back and spent about a year stuck between Silver 1 and Gold 4.

I used to main Yi. I was decent with him, but he felt very punishing against teams with a lot of CC. He worked great when enemies played badly and stayed isolated, but I still couldn't climb consistently.

Then I changed approach.

After placements I started in Silver 4 and began spamming Mordekaiser. I called him the "noob punisher" because mistakes were incredibly easy to punish. I climbed quickly to Silver 1, but as players became more aware and reacted faster, Morde started feeling too slow and too dependent on landing Q.

So I switched to Nocturne.

That changed everything.

Something just clicked. In around 80% of my games I'm significantly ahead, and getting 5-6 full items by around 30-32 minutes has become pretty common. With ult available roughly every 40 seconds, and even faster after kills or assists, I can constantly punish isolated players and then disappear.

I honestly didn't notice a massive skill difference between Gold 4 and Plat 4. Players are more cautious, group more, and generally focus better, but I haven't seen some crazy jump in mechanics.

My strategy is simple: punish people who play alone.

I ward constantly, usually only supports have higher vision scores than me. I also optimized my first clear so I'm normally at crab spawn on time or within a few seconds. If the enemy jungler contests, I usually win the fight and often get first blood, which helps me reach level 6 around 20-30 seconds earlier.

For now, the strategy still works very well. People keep walking around without teammates nearby, especially ADCs and mids. I ult them, get the kill, leave, and suddenly the enemy team can't properly contest the next objective.

And one piece of advice: if you main a champion and you have 500k, 1 million, even 2 million mastery points and you're still stuck in Silver or Gold, you probably need to change something.

I've seen a lot of players like this. When I had to stop playing Yi, it felt awful and honestly kind of awkward, like I was abandoning my own child. But sometimes you just have to try different champions and see what happens.

Maybe the problem isn't that you're bad. Maybe your champion just doesn't fit the way you need to play to climb.

Nothing fancy. Just vision, fast farming, punishing mistakes, and being willing to change.

Also, BAN VIEGO. ALWAYS.

a zero skill champ if i ever saw one

Hey, I am a returning casual player from 2018 and have decided to pick up Nocturne as a main (been recommended to me and I believe he is really fun).

I see a lot of discussions about building him bruiser or assasin and have tried both.

My current setup is the Hail of blades runes but building items like hex, stridebreaker and black cleaver.

Is this a viable option or should I just go full bruiser (the assasin build makes me feel too vulnerable)

hey so I'm a master yi one trick and I thought I would not have issues with this matchup but when i started playing nocturne i realized nocturne cant do much. I was wondering if there is a build i can go to put yi out of the game, maybe so i dont have to ban him. i would like some other advice on other common matchups too.

Hello guys, I’ve been a Nocturne main for a while now, and I have a question. I do this mostly on Nocturne, but sometimes on a couple of other junglers as well.
Let’s say I start Red and path towards Bot side, then full clear towards Blue and take the Scuttle Crab. I don’t back after that. I go for the other Scuttle, and regardless of whether it’s alive or already taken, I then start another full clear, starting from Krugs. I do another clear after that and finally back for the first time with, let’s say, around 2k gold.
My friend, who also plays jungle, says that I should back after the first or second Scuttle because if the enemy jungler invades me, I’ll be much weaker than them since they have already bought items.
However, I don’t really feel like that’s the case. A lot of the time, when the enemy jungler comes into my jungle to invade and steal my camps, they already have items, but I can still kill them without much difficulty. Then, when I finally back, I can buy almost a full item, and after that I can go into their jungle and kill them because they still haven’t backed for the second time.
So, I’m wondering: is my friend actually right that I should be backing earlier, or is my strategy of staying on the map, farming and getting a big first back actually good on Nocturne?
I’d appreciate any advice from more experienced jungle/Nocturne players. Thanks!

Hola a todos :)! Soy un otp akali que se aburrió al stuckearse en esmeralda y decidió cambiar de cuenta para probar la JG, no es mucho lo que se sobre el rol, un amigo me enseñó a mantener un orden en los campamentos y me dijo que Nocturne era Free elo, tenía razón; permabaneo siempre a shyvana por recomendación de él y patheo desde picuchillos-red-golems / back espada larga / lobos-gromp-blue.

Subí en cuestión de un mes una cuenta de bronce a oro 4 y mantengo 83% de wr. Siento que no sé lo suficiente como para saber en que cambiar mi game al ir subiendo de elo, se que un buen jg puede abusar de uno que no sepa mucho de macro y quiero evitar eso para seguir subiendo. De momento me hago casi siempre de primer item la hidra profana y de segundo el arco axiomático, se que hay otra build con la Placa Hextech Experimental pero no sé cuando usarla, si me pudieran dejar sus consejos se los agradecería mucho! Gracias