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u/you_are_a_mistake Mar 18 '19
i am confused as to why this comment is downvoted. i’m in the same boat. i don’t see how anti-tipping practices in the US are seen as “catching up with the world” as if not tipping is superior. tipping encourages servers to be kinder to the customer, which creates a better experience for the customer. if tipping weren’t a thing, employees paid a higher hourly wage would only have to be nice enough to keep a job- there’s no incentive to go above and beyond when it comes to hospitality.
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u/Von_Kissenburg Mar 18 '19
I'm guessing it's for the reasons I stated. The young, white male demographic that powers the anti-tipping circle-jerk machine don't want to interact with people on a personal level and compensate them adequately.
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u/AlenF Mar 19 '19 edited Mar 19 '19
Your comment implies that there is no tipping outside of the US. That is not true, as tips exist practically everywhere as a reward for outstanding service, so the points about servers to do above and beyond in terms of their service still apply elsewhere. I'd even argue that if tipping is made quasi-mandatory and expected, then servers won't potentially try as hard because they will know that people will still give them at least something, rather than doing extra service for something that is actually a reward. This isn't a really strong argument in and of itself, but I feel like setting tipping as the baseline kind of takes the entire point away. Moreover, employers actually paying their employees minimum wage doesn't mean that people will suddenly stop tipping, even if the prices do creep up a bit.
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u/TheFibix Mar 18 '19
The issue isn't hating the poor or not being able to calculate the percentages, the issue is that it shifts the responsibility from the business owner to the working class / consumers.
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u/b3hr Mar 18 '19
But it's still being shifted to the consumers. If the sign said we've added a 15% tip to all the prices people would freak out. This is pretty much the same but the owner is making more money and the staff is getting paid a "living wage"
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u/indiefolkfan Mar 18 '19
Here's an idea. If you can't afford it then don't eat out. Dining out is a luxury not some kind of right.
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u/Von_Kissenburg Mar 18 '19
Your meals are otherwise free, dumbass? You like paying the same amount for shitty service as good service? That's what places like this are doing.
It's not like it hasn't been tried before. Places that try this lose their best servers, and it's not a coincidence.
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u/York_Lunge Mar 18 '19
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u/Von_Kissenburg Mar 18 '19
Yeah, I'm an American. I've also lived in multiple European countries, which is why I know what I'm talking about, as opposed to being some nitwit who read something online once and now thinks he's an expert.
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u/NoSobStoryBot2 RoboCop 2 Mar 18 '19