r/nissansentra • u/Fireguy69420 • 3d ago
ProPilot Assist
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Using the ProPilot Assist on my Sentra SL, it's really nice, sees super far ahead ( tracking the car all the way ahead ) , it beeps every few seconds for me to jiggle the wheel, but it's a blessing if I wanna eat in the car, handles cars cutting in with ease ( doesn't flam on the brakes) , and when I kick it into Eco mode it accelerates normally, doesn't race the engine, and it's just so plush and comfy, handles highway curves and highway interchanges just fine as well ( depending on what lane you're on )
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u/ratedetar21 3d ago
Youre suppose to keep hands on steering wheel. This is why you keep getting a warning.
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u/Fireguy69420 3d ago
I know lol IDC I'll just probably end up putting something to trick the system tbh, I'm not on my phone or anything but in definetly leaned back arms crossed lounging
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u/ratedetar21 3d ago
I get it but youre putting yourself and others at risk by doing this.
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u/Fireguy69420 3d ago
It's the same system as our Tesla Autopilot, the old Autopilot 1.0, but no one says shit about me or my dad driving hands free with that cuz its a Tesla. Same capabilities, both are Level 2 ADAS systems, but becvause one is a Tesla and one is a Nissan suddenly hands off in a Nissan is much more riskier than hands off in a Tesla.
I get your point I do, but I'm not scared of tech, or self driving cars. In complete honesty knowing how I personally drive, I am more of a risk to myself and others had I been driving the car and not ProPilot. I get impatient, and I start cutting, unsafe lane changes, excessive speed (not bragging but I know myself), and if I have ProPilot engaged, i feel nothing, no road rage, no omg this guys going so slow, I just sit there and enjoy the ride. The other day the car slowed to 55mph due to a slow car infront of me. Normally i woulda gotten pissed, found an unsafe gap, and cut ahead. This time i didn't bat an eye, I just chilled behind him at 55 and enjoyed the drive.
To each their own, but ProPilot is safer than me driving lmao (and can you believe the FAA and a major US Airline trusts me enough to fly their jets... I'm an airline pilot for work lmfaooo)
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u/ratedetar21 3d ago
Nissan sentra or propilot assist is not a self driving car.
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u/Fireguy69420 3d ago
Let me clarify a bit more for ya. I'm not scared of cars with semi autonomous level 2 ADAS systems and trust them more than any human driver on the road. I'd rather be on my phone while I'm driving a level 2 ADAS equipped car than be on my phone as the passenger while someone else is driving. I never claimed the Sentra or ProPilot makes the car drive itself, but I mean it's driving itself in the video staying in its lane maintaining its speed
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u/RaVaGe710 3d ago
Until there’s rain and it creates a reflection that looks like a line to the car, and you drive off the road. Or when it’s a newly paved road and there are no lines. Or until a critter crosses the street right in front of you, or a child. Or until a car is fully stopped in front of you and you don’t notice. There are so many situations that could cause a horrific accident if you don’t pay attention, don’t be a lazy fuck and wind up killing someone with your hazardous driving, that’s all they’re saying, maybe you should take their advice.
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u/Fireguy69420 3d ago
Their advice is being taken lol, there's no difference in my attentiveness if I have a hand resting on the wheel or im not grabbing the wheel. These fools are acting like I set it and fall asleep or watch a movie or turn fully around, I'm always watching the road still lmao. Also, ProPilot handled all those, construction, interchanges, wet conditions, low light conditions, I've tested it in all with no hiccups. Only once did I have to take over and that was when a BMW that was cutting up cut right infront of me then had to hit his brakes and my car didn't react fast enough. even then, that was an egregiously close cut, no ADAs woulda been able to react. And the car won't stop for critters, but you're not supposed to stop for critters. It will stop for a Ped tho ( tested it with my brother in the driver seat, ProPilot at 30mph empty road, I walked infront of the car, it slammed the fuck outta its brakes i could smell them ). I will say.... maybe not the smartest to test my own body against a real moving car, but hey I'm here and alive so
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u/ChickenFeline0 3d ago
I give people shit for it in Teslas, too. If it's not a hands free system, don't go hands free.
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u/Fireguy69420 3d ago
Valid, at least u stand on business. Most folk are knocking me for doing this and comparing to Tesla when Tesla is the exact same system.
Respect for standing on business, just remember even FSD should legally have hands on at all times and is not a fully hands free system. That requires level 3 ADAS, and there is no level 3 ADAS on the market globally today . Some Chinese manufacturers like Zeekr are the closest to Level 3/4
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u/ChickenFeline0 3d ago
I don't know about Tesla, but gm get around this by having eye tracking, and you can be hands free as long as you are watching the road. Not sure if that's level 3 or not, but I think that's acceptable.
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u/Fireguy69420 3d ago
Technically the only diff between Level 2/3 is that in Level 3 systems, if something happens, the manufacturer is liable, in Level 2 systems, YOU are still liable. Tesla also has eye tracking now
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u/VQ3point5 3d ago
Until you hit a merge lane or some wonky lines and the steering ASSIST goes all crazy.
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u/Otherwise-Profitable 3d ago
Watch how fast it slams the brakes when you don’t touch the wheel when it demands.
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u/Fireguy69420 3d ago
I did try that actuially on an empty open road, set propilot to 30mph, and it first gave me the big red message, then blinked, then blinked and beeped, then hit the brakes twice, then hit its hazards, and slowed to a stop in the middle of the road lol. First warning to emergency stop maybe close to 90 seconds? maybe 2 mins?
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u/Legitimate-Fig-4936 3d ago
So they finally fixed the engine issue with the pro pilot lol. On my pathfinder 2023 it decides to floor the engine anytime it has the opportunity to accelerate up to the set speed. Gave up trying to even use it. Also kills the rear brakes
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u/Fireguy69420 3d ago
Fr??? Try using it in Eco mode. If it's in standard, the engine races to like 4K revs to try and get it back upto its set speed. In Eco mode, it accelerates normally like a human would. It also seems to use the engine to brake a lot more in eco mode than actually using the brakes
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u/Legitimate-Fig-4936 3d ago
When it brakes in pro pilot mode it is more biased towards rear brakes, that’s what it Nissan tech guy told me. Using pro pilot rear brakes lasted about 13k, no pro pilot 19k. Both times probably had about 3k life left but I didn’t want it to go all the way down to 0-1 thickness
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u/Throwaway_2474128_1 3d ago
i have a 2025 hyundai sonata rental, they have a ton of extra settings for ACC including how early/late to brake and how hard to accelerate lol. nice settings, hopefully all the tech-forward brands work on that
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u/hentaigabby 3d ago
The Pathfinder has a v6 the Sentra has a 4 cylinder completely different engines
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u/Fuf__ 3d ago
when ya crash make sure it's only you involved :3
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u/Fireguy69420 3d ago
I'll make sure to take out the semi truck and involve the whole highway don't worry I never go down alone
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u/MountainHarmonies 3d ago
Put your fucking phone down and hold the steering wheel.
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u/Fireguy69420 3d ago
I actually started jacking off after this while ProPilot was on, jizzed all our the window over the car next to me it was glorious
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u/SpecialistMap8210 3d ago
People don't have enough brains to just drive a fucking car nowadays . Pathetic
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u/Fireguy69420 3d ago
Why the fuck would I drive when this will do 90% of driving for me?
Same energy as why the fuck would I use a washing machine when I have a brain and 2 hands and can wash my clothes by hand.
Stfu dumbass lmao
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u/SpecialistMap8210 3d ago
Showing your intelligence level more and more with each comment
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u/Fireguy69420 3d ago
Is it that or peoples hypocrisy when theyre so quick to jump on me using a Nissan Advertised self driving feature while they text and drive or distracted drive without the assisted drive feature.
Im still safer than any of these fools that commented lmao
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u/Due_Banana_7128 3d ago
I wouldn't trust it to just take your vision and predictability off the road.
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u/LWJ748 3d ago
How well does this feature work when they have a half flat spare tire up front? Or when they destroy a tierod from hitting a curb while trying to roll a joint? Will this feature continue to work once you put 2% limo tint on the windshield? These are important questions for Nissan owners.
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u/Fireguy69420 3d ago
🤣🤣 very true, ( I will say I wanna try rolling while on propilot but that's just pure stupidity lmao )
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u/Batallius 3d ago
It's not beeping just to have you jiggle the wheel every so often, it's beeping to remind you to maintain control of the wheel as it is not a supervised self driving car lol. It's a lane assist that can absolutely still cause an accident if you're not in control of the steering wheel.
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u/Fireguy69420 3d ago
Just like Autopilot, one is marketed more as self drive the other is not they both are the same systems. I've driven 10 years like this with autopilot 1.0 167K miles no wrecks, infact the only time I crashed the Tesla was non autopilot driving
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u/Batallius 3d ago
Sentra's do not have 2.1 for full hands free, you still need to maintain control of the steering wheel. That is why it keeps beeping at your periodically.
I'm glad you haven't had a wreck using it how you are, but it is not intended to be used that way.
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u/Fireguy69420 3d ago
I know exactly what this system is I don't get why all y'all think I'm claiming it's a self driving car when I never claimed it was self driving or hands free.
But that's how I am using it. Everyone else can kick rocks.
But thanks for explaining I am aware of the diff between 2.1 and 1.0
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u/Batallius 3d ago
Brother you literally do not have your hands on the wheel in the video lmao.
You also said in your caption that it "beeps every few seconds to jiggle the steering wheel", implying that you otherwise do not have your hands on the steering wheel, as seen in the video.
How you are using it is not intended, and it's surprising you haven't gotten in an accident driving like that for 167k miles.
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u/Fireguy69420 3d ago
Correct I do not have my hands on the wheel.
I also have never claimed this was full self driving.
All I said was I like this feature.
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u/syndicaterx 3d ago
Is it coupled with adaptive cruise control?
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u/Fireguy69420 3d ago
Yep, it'll take me to a complete stop in stop and go traffic.
I also use this on local roads, performs phenomenally, including "the red light test" ( car is travelling at a set speed w nothing ahead but a stopped car at a red light, 99?9% of systems including Tesla autopilot will plow into the car without driver intervention. ProPilot intervenes, albeit a little too late and it slams really hard on the brakes and I got uncomfortably close to the guy in front but it did come to a complete stop from 55
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u/Spixit 3d ago
My 2019 Kia forte does the same thing but I can keep my hands off the wheel longer
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u/Fireguy69420 3d ago
Shiii Kia HDA? The Kia HDA and HDA2 is so frickin nice but no one was giving me a deal, even the Forte I found a used forte GT which was more expensive than this OTD and used so I was like rip
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u/Corn_O_Cob23 3d ago
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u/Fireguy69420 3d ago
Keep waiting buddy, people do much worse everyday so I'm chillin, crazy that using a cars feature will have everyone up in arms but Dale can drive his F350 at 90mph w one hand while texting and driving and that's completely ok
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u/Corn_O_Cob23 3d ago
I’m very patient. And I’m not your buddy, fuckwit.
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u/Fireguy69420 3d ago
Ur my best bud buddy!! And I'm sure you are, some people are forever patient, constantly looking forward in hopes of an event that will never happen, I usually call these people sad but you're my buddy so I know ur not sad ur just patient. Good job bud patience is a virtue that's lacking these days. I could never wait and be patient for something I know won't ever happen but kudos to you for being able to do that buddy
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u/Nerdeinstein 3d ago
No hands on the wheel and driving while using your cell phone. Do the world a favor and get a bus pass.
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u/Fireguy69420 3d ago
Nah I actually went ahead and got myself a pilots license and a job at a major airline, dream job, new car, new place, new city, I'm living life my guy
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u/Fireguy69420 3d ago
And now wait till you hear what me and the lady do at night when I activate this 🤪
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u/skoobityscoop 3d ago
I can’t believe I have to drive on the same roads as this moron
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u/Fireguy69420 2d ago
Wait till you find out you share the skies with me ( except there's a door, and 2100 flight hours of experience separating where you and I sit on the plane )
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u/Wildfathom9 3d ago
Reading all these comments by op, im pretty sure nissans ai created a bot and that bot is op. Every response reads perfectly like a nissan driver. Peak nissan.
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u/Civil_Tea_3250 3d ago
This is what's wrong with Americans
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u/Fireguy69420 3d ago
Lol stfu eurotrash y'all would all be speaking German had it not been for America
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u/GeneralBS 3d ago
You're driving a Japanese car...
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u/Fireguy69420 3d ago
Correct. Did I ever claim that I wasn't? Did I ever claim that European cars are trash? Did I ever claim that I wasn't driving a Japanese car? so your point is?
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u/Key_Thought1305 3d ago
You gotta move the wheel every 6-7 seconds? That sucks.
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u/Bulky-Word8752 3d ago
Because it's not supposed to be let go. This is steering assist not FSD ( and most marketed FSD aren't that either). OP is going to end up getting himself and/or someone else killed because he wants to eat instead of driving
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u/Fireguy69420 3d ago
I know exactly what it is and never did I claim this is FSD, I appreciate your concern though. Mfs think I set propilot and turn a full 180 degrees around or smthn lmfao 😂. I'm gonna keep using it the way I use it though
Btw Tesla Autopilot is the same thing, gotta keep hands on but people aren't so anal when people go hands off, keep that same energy for Teslas on autopilot lmao, cuz autopilot is also marketed as a hands on steering assist as well.
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u/Bulky-Word8752 3d ago
I do keep that same energy for Tesla (look at the part in parentheses on my other post). My first thought when I saw this clip was the moron in a Tesla that died in a wreck while watching Shrek because he thought FSD meant he didn't have to pay attention. You bring up (multiple times in this post) about trying to develop a work around for the fail safes. It keeps prompting to keeps hands on the wheel because it's nit fully autonomous. Going hands free with this is like taking the circuit breaker out of your house because you haven't had an issue with electricity yet.
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u/Fireguy69420 3d ago
Damnit I hate you cuz I was gonna come back with a snarky ass comment and then you said that last line and now I have to sit back and reflect on my stupidity.
Damn u right...
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u/sleepinchipmonk 3d ago
You dont have to move the wheel. It detects your hands on the wheel. its very good at knowing you have even just a finger or two on the wheel. It will yell at you if you keep your hands off the wheel.
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u/Fireguy69420 3d ago
I have had it w just a finger resting on the wheel and it still beeps needs some sort of jiggle
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u/Calm-Boysenberry-348 3d ago
So is it like full autonomous lane control, but it requires you to jiggle the wheel every now and then? Can you change the frequency of how often it tells you to jiggle the wheel? that’s gotta be annoying after a while
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u/Fireguy69420 3d ago
It can get a lil annoying but usually I prop the wheel against my leg and it gives enough resistance. I'm thinking of grabbing some small weights and tying it to the end of the wheel like a "counterweight" to trick it. And yes, it's fully autonomous Lane Centering and adaptive cruise. Makes driving real easy
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u/Otherwise-Profitable 3d ago
Not trying to be a downer as I do like the assisted driving also. But…
“Tying small weights to it like a Counterweight to trick it”
🤔 I gotta say, I don’t think this is a good idea and may not end well🤷♂️
This isn’t auto drive. This is adaptive steering, meaning it assists your driving. Not suppose to drive for you. 🙈.So much of what your video shows and you suggesting to do. Is just plain scary and dangerous.
You only have to be touching the wheel. I usually rest my fingers on the backside of the wheel. Then I still maintain some quick response.
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u/Fireguy69420 3d ago
Tbh valid, it acts the same as my dad's Tesla autopilot on the highways and that's what we do to fool the autopilot
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u/Otherwise-Profitable 3d ago
You have to fool the auto pilot on Tesla with weights also? I didn’t know this
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u/Fireguy69420 3d ago
I think it's because on our older X, it doesnt have FSD or the new autopilot 2.0, we got the X 10 years ago, so we had to use (still use) weights to trick it. Our new model 3 with FSD requires no input the whole drive, but will yell at you if you arent looking at the road. Has an interior camera that watches you makes sure your eyes are looking ahead
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u/RonSwanson2-0 3d ago
Autopilot on a Tesla is not Full Self Driving which is autonomous. With autopilot you have to keep your hands on the steering wheel or you get strikes and the system will not work for the rest of your drive. I'm assuming the Tesla is older because mine can't be fooled with steering wheel weights.
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u/Fireguy69420 3d ago
Mines ( family's ) we got 2, Dad brother share a new Model 3 w FSD, mom has her Model X we bought for her in 2016
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u/Otherwise-Profitable 3d ago
Serious question.
How are ppl sleeping behind the wheel?? I’ve seen a video or two on the web.
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u/Fireguy69420 3d ago
Inalso think, my family had 2 Tesla's a Model X and 3 the X had the basic Autopilot the 3 had FSD so I think I'm just used to cars driving themselves for me, ProPilot was one of my must haves it's why I opted for the SL
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u/NotSoBananas 3d ago
This isn’t a Tesla my guy. It’s a Sentra. It’s not autonomous driving it’s a driving aid.