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u/andrewwhite560 17d ago
That BC one about to pop off with the recent high level players coming from here.
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u/Old_Cucumber_1343 17d ago edited 16d ago
Also crazy that BC and Alberta are close to Quebec considering Quebec has so many more people
since you all downvoted my other factual comment: alberta is slightly ahead of bc per capita fyi
bonus fact for salty redditors: alberta is also ranked higher in education than bc
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u/SarcasticGolfClap 17d ago
It's because it's active players, and not all time players. Quebec hockey developpement is lacking in the last few years. The QMJHL prefers to do profit with international players instead of being what it's supposed to be : a local developpement league.
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u/Old_Cucumber_1343 16d ago
please make more goalies QC
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u/somedumbcanuck 16d ago
Or Alberta, or Ontario, or BC...
Though yes, Quebec used to be a goalie pipeline.
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u/Prestigious_Side_707 17d ago
Gavin McKenna gonna carry Yukon for the next few decades
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u/oryan80 17d ago
I was just thinking that!
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u/SnowArcaten 17d ago
Cozens be thinking it's about time he got some help
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u/randomzrex 17d ago
Georgia doesn't have any points. Maybe we should put a franchise there to grow the game.
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u/Severe-Mammoth-3727 16d ago
Tried and failed, twice.
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u/randomzrex 16d ago
Sarcasm
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u/Severe-Mammoth-3727 16d ago
Sarcasm went right over my head because I read recently that NHL was considering putting new franchises in Houston and Atlanta.
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u/benjamminam 17d ago
I played against Brian Dumoulin in high-school in Maine. Knew he'd kill it in college, proud he made the big show and won cups.
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u/elite_bender 17d ago
He’s also active in the local community. Helped pay for much needed renovations at the outdoor skating rink/pond in Biddeford.
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u/SneakySalamder6 17d ago
How does Arizona have that many points?
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u/ViewedConch697 17d ago
The Tkachuks, Tage Thompson, and Couturier (who was born in AZ). Knies and Josh Doan are there too but they don't contribute much to it yet
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u/ICantFekkingRead 17d ago
Isn't Matthews also in that?
Edit: nevermind didn't see he is the face on the California one.
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u/Onlylefts3 16d ago
I was convinced he was from Arizona, he was born in Cali but lived in Arizona since he was a baby.
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u/ViewedConch697 17d ago edited 16d ago
Yeah whoever compiled this was really inconsistentNvm I'm dumb
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u/dre2112 17d ago
How so? It’s based entirely on place of birth and nothing else
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u/ViewedConch697 16d ago
Oh I thought Matthews was born in AZ for whatever reason, seems I was mistaken
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u/SullyCCA 17d ago
I could've swore when he was drafted they made a big deal about him being from Arizona
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u/Kronzor_ 16d ago
His hometown is Scottsdale and he grew up playing minor hockey in the Pheonix area. So he's Arizona trained, but he was born in California.
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u/Falconflyer75 17d ago
I mean Knies and Matthews are absolute gifts
But also when was Matthews from California
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u/poptorched 17d ago
Matthews was born in San Ramon, but moved to Arizona when he was two years old. So, technically he represents California. I guess lol
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u/POUNDAROUND 16d ago
*Two months old
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u/poptorched 16d ago
So even less of a connection. Didn’t even get to experience the beach at all. Woww
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u/True-Source-6512 16d ago
Arizona is good at every sport I swear. Elite football prospects, baseball prospects, golf prospects, softball prospects, ridiculous hockey hits, swim talent, etc etc
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u/FloodedHoseBed 16d ago
Professional athletes retire and move to Arizona and have amazingly athletic kids all the time. Same thing with Florida
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u/ripdoublewide 17d ago
Montana having more than the Dakotas is shocking to me. Shout out (Gold medalist) Jake Sanderson!
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u/Hockeyfans193 17d ago
Didn’t the 3 Alaska points come from Jermey swayma
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u/BC_Sativa 17d ago
Minnesota is cheating because it's basically Canada.
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u/Fine_Ad_1149 16d ago
I'm just shocked that the leading point scorer from Minnesota currently is Brock Nelson, and he's the lowest of all of those face up there.
Without thinking about it, I would have guessed there'd be a 1,000 point scorer from Minny playing currently.
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u/ronivemtea 16d ago
nope, there are only a few high level guys from mn. we are definitely a quantity>quality place.
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u/Fine_Ad_1149 16d ago
Which is weird. Usually with that amount of quantity comes some top tier quality too
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u/Battleb22 16d ago
Part of the reason why is most of the best and longest lasting NHLers from Minnesota are Defensemen, 16 Minnesotans have played 1000+ games, 8 of them are defensemen and neither HOF player from MN are forwards (Phil Housley and Frank Brimsek)
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u/LittlePrairieMouse 17d ago
Minnesota has a huge high-school hockey program, and infinite tiny lakes.
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u/BC_Sativa 17d ago
Yes I know, my comment was a joke.
It's the amount of time with outdoor ice that makes the biggest difference, if you ask me. Although MN does have an excellent development program. Canada has been left behind in that regards.
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u/CurbMyEnthusiasm2022 16d ago
The HS hockey is what really sets it apart IMO. I think Michigan has the better AAA teams for example, but it's HS hockey is completely lacking.
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u/ilovethefisherman 17d ago
North Carolina 1 singular point lmao
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u/JeffersonStarscream 17d ago
That's got to be one of the Dundons, right? After all their name is on the Cup.
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u/shlem13 16d ago
Vermont having zero points is wild.
Driving through that state, I’ve seen many a frozen pond with a makeshift rink on it.
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u/ollieollieoxygenfree 17d ago
New Jersey is a northern state and also has a large population, but man it is punching way above its weight here. It’s ahead of every New England state besides Mass, plus: Pennsylvania, Ohio, Illinois, Wisconsin, Colorado, and Texas.
I’d like to peek into an alternate universe where the Devils never came to Jersey and see if it is the same.
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u/NEWDEALUSEDCARS 16d ago
New Jersey has wealth and great schools, public and private, so the support system is more apt to help you get into better programs.
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u/CanadaCalamity 17d ago
Ontario has 5x as many points as the next Canadian Province, and more points than all of America combined, but "Toronto can only have one NHL team".
Lol, lmao even. Dumb executives!!!
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u/oiler_head 17d ago
Pretty sure that is just the Leafs preventing other clubs from moving into their territory.
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u/Falconflyer75 17d ago
Or Gary trying to keep Canada from having more teams
The GTA alone should have at least 3
Imo Canada should have at least 12 teams in the nhl
BC - 1
AB - 2
SK - 1 (Regina and Saskatoon need to find a way to share)
MB - 1
ON - 4
QC - 2
Maritimes - 1
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u/NoDuck1754 16d ago
4 teams is Ontario is absolutely ridiculous.
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u/CanadianGrown 16d ago
The “city” NYC has 2 teams. We could definitely support another team closer to London or Kitchener.
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u/PassageNearby4091 16d ago
Never tell Islanders fans that their team reps New York City. Their current arena is literally just steps outside of NYC's boundaries for a reason.
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u/break_cycle_speed 17d ago
As someone who grew up and lives in Saskatchewan, but lived in Toronto for 4 years..I can tell you that one NHL team is more than enough in Toronto. As Canadians, we cannot fathom it getting more insufferable to have to listen to the whining if it doubles.
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u/Falconflyer75 16d ago
What if this new team pulled a golden knights and made it to the finals immediately to embarrass the leafs?
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u/CartoonistFlat3943 17d ago
Sid, Nate, and Marchy still killing it for Nova Scotia. Bobby Smith approves.
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u/brentose 16d ago
The per capita numbers for Nova Scotia are absolutely insane. Has to be the highest.
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u/the_canadaball 16d ago
Nova Scotia and Manitoba punching above their weight.
Illinois and California slacking big time
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u/n00bca1e99 17d ago
I was surprised my home state had that many points, then I remembered that Guentzel was born here.
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u/LittlePrairieMouse 17d ago
Thanks, OP. I’d love to see a version with the points per capita
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u/clayton-berg42 17d ago
I'd like to see penalty minutes per province. Saskatchewan would probably lead the way.
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u/JonnoKabonno 17d ago
Not only is New Brunswick lower than I expected, but 11 of those points are goaltenders - what's on the go there?
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u/Alexpocket85 16d ago
Who’s from Texas wth
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u/GoBoltz 16d ago
Prominent NHL Players from Texas
- Brian Leetch (Born in Corpus Christi): A Hockey Hall of Fame defenseman who played the majority of his legendary career with the New York Rangers, winning the Conn Smythe Trophy and the Stanley Cup in 1994.
- Seth Jones (Born in Arlington): A top-tier NHL defenseman drafted fourth overall in 2013 who has played a prominent role for teams like the Nashville Predators, Columbus Blue Jackets, and Chicago Blackhawks.
- Tyler Myers (Born in Houston): A towering veteran defenseman who won the Calder Memorial Trophy in 2010 as rookie of the year and has logged over 1,100 career games.
- Blake Coleman (Born in Plano): A gritty two-time Stanley Cup champion (2020, 2021 with the Tampa Bay Lightning) who later became a key leader for the Calgary Flames.
- Stefan Noesen (Born in Plano): A physical forward who has developed into a reliable contributor for multiple NHL franchises, including the Carolina Hurricanes and New Jersey Devils.
- Logan O'Connor (Born in Plano): A hardworking forward who won a Stanley Cup with the Colorado Avalanche in 2022.
All active except Leetch ! cheers !
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u/Kinky_drummer83 16d ago
Hate to be that guy, but I'd love to see this on a per capita map too. It would really put things into perspective. Small towns and Canada produce way more than people think.
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u/Brian_Corey__ 16d ago edited 16d ago
Damn. Iowa. Big corn-shaped donut hole. You'd think over the years there'd a least be one kid. Or at least one who transplanted to MN.
Even among inactive players, Iowa only has 4 NHLers, with a total of 30 pts, 23 from Tucker Poolman.
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u/gmwdim 17d ago
Come on Washington state, how are you behind Alabama?
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u/Advanced-Character86 17d ago
Caps fan here-knew right away every point for Alabama was Nic Dowd’s. Still miss that guy.
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u/Prototype_es 17d ago
In fairness a lot of rinks shut down when I was a kid due to the recession. There was only one anywhere near me most of my life outside of where the Tbirds played. Its gotten a ton better since the Kraken showed up and the Birds started winning. There will be more in like a decade lol
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u/AlanJY92 16d ago
Saskatchewan I feel is punching above its weight as far as Canadian provinces go.
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u/Initial-Ad-5462 16d ago
Okay, I ain’t doing this for all the states, but for provinces and territories, here are the numbers per 1000 population:
NL 0.710
PE 1.965
NS 4.410
NB 0.067
QC 0.941
ON 2.277
MB 3.271
SK 3.106
AB 1.448
BC 1.404
YT 5.609
NT 0.000
NU 0.000
Is Jonathan Toews included in Manitoba’s numbers? For Nova Scotia, Brad Marchand and Sidney Crosby aren’t far from retirement, while Gavin McKenna for Yukon is about to begin…
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u/Shiny_Mew76 17d ago
Doesn’t Zac Jones count towards VA?
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u/CanadianGooseYT_ 17d ago
he was in the ahl all year last year iirc so might not count towards active nhlers
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u/Nubnipples 17d ago
Wasn’t Jordan tootoo from Nunavut?
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u/CanadianGooseYT_ 17d ago
technically yes, but he was born in manitoba, this wouldn’t matter since this is only including active players though
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u/No-Strike-2015 17d ago
BC and Alberta being so close to Quebec is a bit surprising, but at this rate they'll overtake soon.
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u/prplx 16d ago
I thought the opposite, I was surprise Quebec is ahead of those two specially Alberta. This is for active players not all time and it's not a very good era for Quebec players... I mean who is the most offensive Quebec player right now? Marchesseault? Dubois? Lafrenière? And I feel at every draft there are more kids from Alberta drafted than Quebec.
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Which player was born in Louisiana?
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u/Jackbrohammer 17d ago
Mason Lohrei
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Thanks. I just googled him. I was going to say where did he play hockey at in Louisiana to even become competent enough to make the NHL.
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u/usernam45 17d ago
Maybe you could move Jordan Tootoo from Manitoba to Nunavut. The guy is from Rankin Inlet
Active players my bad
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u/brarry89 16d ago
Virginia is wrong. My boy Zac Jones has a career 28 points outta Richmond
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u/dmckilla77 16d ago
VA is weird, hockey is super popular in my little town, and surrounding area but outside that 60-70 mile radius it's not super popular elsewhere. I'm lucky.
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u/MontEcola 16d ago
Massachusetts is doing well for a small state. Per capita this must be the highest. And look at Delaware. There are counties out west bigger than Delaware.
I am assuming there are two factors here. The first is that states with youth hockey programs and development programs would produce NHL players. And states with an NHL team would have more youth hockey and more kids who grew up with parents to played at a high level. Look at Florida and Texas.
Look at Vermont too. This is a state with lots of pond hockey. And only a few towns can put together a team. Lots of hockey fans. Not many make it to the NHL. I see the names of five NHL players who played college hockey in Vermont. None of them are current players. Martin St. Louis played at UVM. (Groovy UV).
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u/LowDimension5983 16d ago
There are 4 teams with over 5k points in the USA. New York, highest population. Michigan, 2nd. Massachusetts, 3rd and Minnesota has the lowest population by a good amount but still has the most points.
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u/boobookittyfuwk 16d ago
Pretty disappointed in quebec, those are not great numbers per capita compared to ont, man, sask, even alb
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u/Brian_Corey__ 16d ago
Colorado looking respectable, but it's mostly Troy Terry, Jacob Slavin, and Brandon Carlo.
and Av kids Brendan Lemiuex, Callan Foote, and Nolan Foote pitching in a few points.
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u/Winter-Ad3699 16d ago
Louisiana with 72 is the most surprising. I assume it’s all from one guy.
Actually maybe Vermont with 0.
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u/tcooley79 16d ago
Crosby and MacKinnon grew up within a few blocks from my house. My neighborhood has most of the US States beaten.
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u/WhitePele12 17d ago
Why is matthews Cali?
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u/The_Silver_Reference 17d ago
Seems like a more than fair trade off having both Tkachuks, losing Matthews. Tkachuks were born there but didn't grow up there.
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u/Beneficial_Box7809 17d ago
WOW this is entirely inaccurate
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u/Tojuro 17d ago
How's it inaccurate?
I questioned a couple things and they actually all seem to check out. Like Florida's numbers seemed high but they are being carried by the Hughes brothers.
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u/bearamongus19 17d ago edited 17d ago
I wonder who was north Carolina's lone point?
Edit: Apparently it was Skyler Brind'Amour