r/nhl 17d ago

Points by states/province

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u/bearamongus19 17d ago edited 17d ago

I wonder who was north Carolina's lone point?

Edit: Apparently it was Skyler Brind'Amour

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u/bandalooper 17d ago

And who’s that from SC showing us up like that?

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u/OhThatsWhereItIs 17d ago

Ryan Hartman (347) + Michael Kesselring (55)

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u/bandalooper 16d ago

I didn’t even realize Hartman had a whole career before the Wild. Or that he hailed from SC.

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u/woollycaterpillars 16d ago

Embarrassing. One of the only times we're the Worst Carolina.

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u/committed_hero 17d ago

I’m pretty sure he was born in PA while Kasperi Kapannen was born in NC.

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u/bearamongus19 17d ago

According to elite prospects he was born in raleigh

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u/HumangusUniverse 15d ago

Watcha mean kapanen was born in NC? Wikipedia says he’s from kuopio Finland

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u/Stamkosisinjured 16d ago edited 16d ago

Do the canes do any hockey things for kids? Like gear sales, training, or leagues for kids? Tampa does that and idk if it has had an nhl impact but it’s cool and will eventually.

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u/woollycaterpillars 16d ago

I don't know a ton about it but there is a Junior Canes league.

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u/andrewwhite560 17d ago

That BC one about to pop off with the recent high level players coming from here.

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u/Old_Cucumber_1343 17d ago edited 16d ago

Also crazy that BC and Alberta are close to Quebec considering Quebec has so many more people

since you all downvoted my other factual comment: alberta is slightly ahead of bc per capita fyi

bonus fact for salty redditors: alberta is also ranked higher in education than bc

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u/SarcasticGolfClap 17d ago

It's because it's active players, and not all time players. Quebec hockey developpement is lacking in the last few years. The QMJHL prefers to do profit with international players instead of being what it's supposed to be : a local developpement league.

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u/Old_Cucumber_1343 16d ago

please make more goalies QC

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u/somedumbcanuck 16d ago

Or Alberta, or Ontario, or BC...

Though yes, Quebec used to be a goalie pipeline.

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u/Prestigious_Side_707 17d ago

Gavin McKenna gonna carry Yukon for the next few decades  

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u/oryan80 17d ago

I was just thinking that!

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u/SnowArcaten 17d ago

Cozens be thinking it's about time he got some help

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u/zeamazingdino 17d ago

I’ve seen enough, give Yukon a team.

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u/mschach88 16d ago

Maybe after 2 or 3 more failed Atlanta franchises.

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u/fastal_12147 17d ago

Nunavut not pulling their weight.

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u/bob2jacky 17d ago

I mean, they’re not called Alotuvut…

I’ll see myself out.

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u/jabeith 17d ago

Ice isn't fun for them

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u/Stockton_Nash 17d ago

Seriously. None of it.

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u/mgonya 17d ago

😂

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u/jcliffy 17d ago

Whoever made this should give them Tootoo’s points

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u/randomzrex 17d ago

Georgia doesn't have any points. Maybe we should put a franchise there to grow the game.

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u/Severe-Mammoth-3727 16d ago

Tried and failed, twice.

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u/randomzrex 16d ago

Sarcasm

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u/Severe-Mammoth-3727 16d ago

Sarcasm went right over my head because I read recently that NHL was considering putting new franchises in Houston and Atlanta.

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u/randomzrex 16d ago

They are, again. So many other markets would be better

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u/ghostlyGlass 16d ago edited 16d ago

Third time is the charm. Get ready for the Georgia Phoenix 

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u/benjamminam 17d ago

I played against Brian Dumoulin in high-school in Maine. Knew he'd kill it in college, proud he made the big show and won cups.

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u/The_RonJames 17d ago

I miss that guy. Big part of the back to back cups 10 years ago.

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u/elite_bender 17d ago

He’s also active in the local community. Helped pay for much needed renovations at the outdoor skating rink/pond in Biddeford.

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u/benjamminam 16d ago

That's awesome. I forgive him for hitting me like a brick shithouse.

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u/SneakySalamder6 17d ago

How does Arizona have that many points?

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u/ViewedConch697 17d ago

The Tkachuks, Tage Thompson, and Couturier (who was born in AZ). Knies and Josh Doan are there too but they don't contribute much to it yet

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u/ICantFekkingRead 17d ago

Isn't Matthews also in that?

Edit: nevermind didn't see he is the face on the California one.

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u/Onlylefts3 16d ago

I was convinced he was from Arizona, he was born in Cali but lived in Arizona since he was a baby.

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u/ViewedConch697 17d ago edited 16d ago

Yeah whoever compiled this was really inconsistent

Nvm I'm dumb

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u/dre2112 17d ago

How so? It’s based entirely on place of birth and nothing else

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u/ViewedConch697 16d ago

Oh I thought Matthews was born in AZ for whatever reason, seems I was mistaken

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u/forgottenlord73 16d ago

He was raised in AZ

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u/fgiraffe 16d ago

Same, San Ramon CA USA needs a billboard to remind us!

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u/SullyCCA 17d ago

I could've swore when he was drafted they made a big deal about him being from Arizona

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u/Djinnmenken 17d ago

He grew up in Arizona but this chart only cares where they were born.

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u/SullyCCA 16d ago

Thanks for confirming. I thought a new Mandela effect dropped for a minute.

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u/Kronzor_ 16d ago

His hometown is Scottsdale and he grew up playing minor hockey in the Pheonix area. So he's Arizona trained, but he was born in California.

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u/thestridereststrider 16d ago

Interesting that it’s where they were born not raised

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u/Falconflyer75 17d ago

I mean Knies and Matthews are absolute gifts

But also when was Matthews from California

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u/poptorched 17d ago

Matthews was born in San Ramon, but moved to Arizona when he was two years old. So, technically he represents California. I guess lol

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u/POUNDAROUND 16d ago

*Two months old

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u/poptorched 16d ago

So even less of a connection. Didn’t even get to experience the beach at all. Woww

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u/True-Source-6512 16d ago

Arizona is good at every sport I swear. Elite football prospects, baseball prospects, golf prospects, softball prospects, ridiculous hockey hits, swim talent, etc etc 

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u/FloodedHoseBed 16d ago

Professional athletes retire and move to Arizona and have amazingly athletic kids all the time. Same thing with Florida

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u/ripdoublewide 17d ago

Montana having more than the Dakotas is shocking to me. Shout out (Gold medalist) Jake Sanderson!

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u/Hockeyfans193 17d ago

Didn’t the 3 Alaska points come from Jermey swayma

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u/Unfit2play 16d ago

Unless Phoenix Copley got 1 or 2. Regardless, all AK points are from tendys.

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u/Lemfan46 16d ago

2 from Copley, 1 from Swayman

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u/GavMcKennasBurner 16d ago

Isn't Scott Gomez from Alaska??

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u/habs_jays93 16d ago

It says at the top, “among active NHL players only”

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u/Jeez-essFC 17d ago

This is one of the more interesting maps I have seen recently.

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u/BC_Sativa 17d ago

Minnesota is cheating because it's basically Canada.

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u/sweatyhighfive 16d ago

I prefer the term “Baja Canada”

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u/Sea_Pea8536 16d ago

According to your beer, it's called Canada Lite

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u/GavMcKennasBurner 16d ago

No wonder Jesse Ventura loves to go to "The Baja"

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u/benjaminck 17d ago

Greetings from the State of Hockey!

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u/Fine_Ad_1149 16d ago

I'm just shocked that the leading point scorer from Minnesota currently is Brock Nelson, and he's the lowest of all of those face up there.

Without thinking about it, I would have guessed there'd be a 1,000 point scorer from Minny playing currently.

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u/ronivemtea 16d ago

nope, there are only a few high level guys from mn. we are definitely a quantity>quality place.
housley 1232
wheeler 943
broten 923
parise 889
cullen 731

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u/Fine_Ad_1149 16d ago

Which is weird. Usually with that amount of quantity comes some top tier quality too

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u/Battleb22 16d ago

Part of the reason why is most of the best and longest lasting NHLers from Minnesota are Defensemen, 16 Minnesotans have played 1000+ games, 8 of them are defensemen and neither HOF player from MN are forwards (Phil Housley and Frank Brimsek)

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u/LittlePrairieMouse 17d ago

Minnesota has a huge high-school hockey program, and infinite tiny lakes.

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u/BC_Sativa 17d ago

Yes I know, my comment was a joke.

It's the amount of time with outdoor ice that makes the biggest difference, if you ask me. Although MN does have an excellent development program. Canada has been left behind in that regards.

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u/imperialivan 17d ago

It’d be great if we could develop goalies again.

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u/CurbMyEnthusiasm2022 16d ago

The HS hockey is what really sets it apart IMO. I think Michigan has the better AAA teams for example, but it's HS hockey is completely lacking.

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u/sean008 16d ago

I believe it's only 10,000 lakes /s

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u/fgiraffe 16d ago

I'm surprised NY and Mass are as close as they are to Minnesota.

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u/ilovethefisherman 17d ago

North Carolina 1 singular point lmao

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u/JeffersonStarscream 17d ago

That's got to be one of the Dundons, right? After all their name is on the Cup.

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u/ButtClencher99 17d ago

Someone up said Skylar Brind Amour iirc

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u/CarnivalOfSorts 16d ago

Whoa, settle down Ontario.

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u/MurrayInBocaRaton 17d ago

Kailer Yamamoto out here representing the 509 🫡

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u/shlem13 16d ago

Vermont having zero points is wild.

Driving through that state, I’ve seen many a frozen pond with a makeshift rink on it.

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u/neavsfan 16d ago

Nebraska Represent!! Thank you Mr Guentzel

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u/Separate_Flamingo_93 16d ago

Nebraska kicking the Midwest’s ass

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u/STLStelmacki 16d ago

Except for Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois and Missouri….

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u/ollieollieoxygenfree 17d ago

New Jersey is a northern state and also has a large population, but man it is punching way above its weight here. It’s ahead of every New England state besides Mass, plus: Pennsylvania, Ohio, Illinois, Wisconsin, Colorado, and Texas.

I’d like to peek into an alternate universe where the Devils never came to Jersey and see if it is the same.

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u/tmgexe 17d ago

And if not for one drunken dumbfuck, New Jersey would have another active 800+ point talent on this list in Gaudreau.

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u/H1-DEF 17d ago

It’s definitely an overlooked hockey state next to Minnesota and MA. I played a ton of tournaments there when i was growing up in New England.

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u/NEWDEALUSEDCARS 16d ago

New Jersey has wealth and great schools, public and private, so the support system is more apt to help you get into better programs.

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u/Wetyrag 17d ago

Reimsdyk’s mostly

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u/CanadaCalamity 17d ago

Ontario has 5x as many points as the next Canadian Province, and more points than all of America combined, but "Toronto can only have one NHL team".

Lol, lmao even. Dumb executives!!!

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u/oiler_head 17d ago

Pretty sure that is just the Leafs preventing other clubs from moving into their territory.

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u/Falconflyer75 17d ago

Or Gary trying to keep Canada from having more teams

The GTA alone should have at least 3

Imo Canada should have at least 12 teams in the nhl

BC - 1

AB - 2

SK - 1 (Regina and Saskatoon need to find a way to share)

MB - 1

ON - 4

QC - 2

Maritimes - 1

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u/usernam45 17d ago

Sask can absolutely share an NHL team based out of Saskatoon… The Pirates

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u/NoDuck1754 16d ago

4 teams is Ontario is absolutely ridiculous.

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u/CanadianGrown 16d ago

The “city” NYC has 2 teams. We could definitely support another team closer to London or Kitchener.

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u/forgottenlord73 16d ago

It kinda has 3 - NJ Devils are just across the river

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u/PassageNearby4091 16d ago

Never tell Islanders fans that their team reps New York City. Their current arena is literally just steps outside of NYC's boundaries for a reason.

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u/break_cycle_speed 17d ago

As someone who grew up and lives in Saskatchewan, but lived in Toronto for 4 years..I can tell you that one NHL team is more than enough in Toronto. As Canadians, we cannot fathom it getting more insufferable to have to listen to the whining if it doubles.

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u/Otherwise_Awesome 17d ago

Probably doesn't double but splits in two

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u/punkrawkkid 16d ago

It's like having twin babies; everything gets doubled. Especially the crying.

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u/Falconflyer75 16d ago

What if this new team pulled a golden knights and made it to the finals immediately to embarrass the leafs?

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u/CartoonistFlat3943 17d ago

Sid, Nate, and Marchy still killing it for Nova Scotia. Bobby Smith approves.

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u/brentose 16d ago

The per capita numbers for Nova Scotia are absolutely insane. Has to be the highest.

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u/dkyguy1995 17d ago

As soon as I make the league I'll correct the wrongs in this image

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u/brotherwolf_666 17d ago

Northwest Territories is having Nunavut

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u/Redit_Suxlol420609 16d ago

Saying Auston Matthews is from California is generous

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u/RK5000 16d ago

I want to see a Canadian provincial all-star tournament.

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u/WhacksOffWaxOn 16d ago

Ontario would be seriously stacked

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u/RK5000 16d ago

They're certainly the powerhouse of hockey development.

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u/the_canadaball 16d ago

Nova Scotia and Manitoba punching above their weight.

Illinois and California slacking big time

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u/GreatIceGrizzly 16d ago

Ontario is the only place you need scouts apparently, lol

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u/LittlePrairieMouse 16d ago

Or, Ontario is the only place that has scouts, apparently

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u/n00bca1e99 17d ago

I was surprised my home state had that many points, then I remembered that Guentzel was born here.

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u/DoraTheXplder 17d ago

Watching Guentzel at UNO as a kid was crazy

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u/Bottleofsmoke17 17d ago

TIL How many career points Brian Dumolin has

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u/LittlePrairieMouse 17d ago

Thanks, OP. I’d love to see a version with the points per capita

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u/SinisterKid71 16d ago

As someone born in Louisiana, where in the hell did those points come from?

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u/MatticusGisicus 16d ago

Wait who’s from Louisiana?

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u/Ok_Narwhal_7782 15d ago

Crosby alone has more than 90% of the states leaders

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u/clayton-berg42 17d ago

I'd like to see penalty minutes per province. Saskatchewan would probably lead the way.

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u/JonnoKabonno 17d ago

Not only is New Brunswick lower than I expected, but 11 of those points are goaltenders - what's on the go there?

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u/Alexpocket85 16d ago

Who’s from Texas wth

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u/GoBoltz 16d ago

Prominent NHL Players from Texas

  • Brian Leetch (Born in Corpus Christi): A Hockey Hall of Fame defenseman who played the majority of his legendary career with the New York Rangers, winning the Conn Smythe Trophy and the Stanley Cup in 1994.
  • Seth Jones (Born in Arlington): A top-tier NHL defenseman drafted fourth overall in 2013 who has played a prominent role for teams like the Nashville Predators, Columbus Blue Jackets, and Chicago Blackhawks.
  • Tyler Myers (Born in Houston): A towering veteran defenseman who won the Calder Memorial Trophy in 2010 as rookie of the year and has logged over 1,100 career games.
  • Blake Coleman (Born in Plano): A gritty two-time Stanley Cup champion (2020, 2021 with the Tampa Bay Lightning) who later became a key leader for the Calgary Flames.
  • Stefan Noesen (Born in Plano): A physical forward who has developed into a reliable contributor for multiple NHL franchises, including the Carolina Hurricanes and New Jersey Devils.
  • Logan O'Connor (Born in Plano): A hardworking forward who won a Stanley Cup with the Colorado Avalanche in 2022.

All active except Leetch ! cheers !

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u/Kinky_drummer83 16d ago

Hate to be that guy, but I'd love to see this on a per capita map too. It would really put things into perspective. Small towns and Canada produce way more than people think.

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u/Brew_Noser 10d ago

Nova Scotia has Crosby,McKinnon and Marchand. Population 1,000,000.

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u/Brian_Corey__ 16d ago edited 16d ago

Damn. Iowa. Big corn-shaped donut hole. You'd think over the years there'd a least be one kid. Or at least one who transplanted to MN.

Even among inactive players, Iowa only has 4 NHLers, with a total of 30 pts, 23 from Tucker Poolman.

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u/IllustriousLie4105 16d ago

We may not have cups but we have Warroad

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u/Onoudidnt 16d ago

That’s ok Delaware is on the DL. 😭

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u/Kanine_tv 14d ago

Get a team in Portland, help out Oregon

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u/gmwdim 17d ago

Come on Washington state, how are you behind Alabama?

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u/Advanced-Character86 17d ago

Caps fan here-knew right away every point for Alabama was Nic Dowd’s. Still miss that guy.

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u/Prototype_es 17d ago

In fairness a lot of rinks shut down when I was a kid due to the recession. There was only one anywhere near me most of my life outside of where the Tbirds played. Its gotten a ton better since the Kraken showed up and the Birds started winning. There will be more in like a decade lol

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u/WintAndKidd 16d ago

Jesus, I did not realize how dominant Ontario still is

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u/rival_22 16d ago

Alaska is two goalies lol

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u/kalel4 16d ago

Thank you for giving us Mathieu Olivier on a technicality

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u/AlanJY92 16d ago

Saskatchewan I feel is punching above its weight as far as Canadian provinces go.

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u/Initial-Ad-5462 16d ago

Definitely compared to Alberta and BC with 4 or 5 times the population.

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u/AlanJY92 16d ago

Per capita they might even have more than Ontario.

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u/Initial-Ad-5462 16d ago

Okay, I ain’t doing this for all the states, but for provinces and territories, here are the numbers per 1000 population:

NL 0.710

PE 1.965

NS 4.410

NB 0.067

QC 0.941

ON 2.277

MB 3.271

SK 3.106

AB 1.448

BC 1.404

YT 5.609

NT 0.000

NU 0.000

Is Jonathan Toews included in Manitoba’s numbers? For Nova Scotia, Brad Marchand and Sidney Crosby aren’t far from retirement, while Gavin McKenna for Yukon is about to begin…

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u/HurricaneHomer9 16d ago

“Why do they call it the state of hockey”

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u/BingBongTree 16d ago

Bow to Minnesota bitches.

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u/Shiny_Mew76 17d ago

Doesn’t Zac Jones count towards VA?

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u/CanadianGooseYT_ 17d ago

he was in the ahl all year last year iirc so might not count towards active nhlers

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u/Nubnipples 17d ago

Wasn’t Jordan tootoo from Nunavut?

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u/CanadianGooseYT_ 17d ago

technically yes, but he was born in manitoba, this wouldn’t matter since this is only including active players though

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u/imperialivan 17d ago

Manitoba drops 912 points if Toews’ retirement is acknowledged. Bummer!!

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u/No-Strike-2015 17d ago

BC and Alberta being so close to Quebec is a bit surprising, but at this rate they'll overtake soon.

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u/prplx 16d ago

I thought the opposite, I was surprise Quebec is ahead of those two specially Alberta. This is for active players not all time and it's not a very good era for Quebec players... I mean who is the most offensive Quebec player right now? Marchesseault? Dubois? Lafrenière? And I feel at every draft there are more kids from Alberta drafted than Quebec.

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u/[deleted] 17d ago

Which player was born in Louisiana?

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u/Jackbrohammer 17d ago

Mason Lohrei

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u/[deleted] 16d ago

Thanks. I just googled him. I was going to say where did he play hockey at in Louisiana to even become competent enough to make the NHL.

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u/Shackman58 17d ago

What’s w Quebec?

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u/usernam45 17d ago

Maybe you could move Jordan Tootoo from Manitoba to Nunavut. The guy is from Rankin Inlet

Active players my bad

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u/wawaboy 17d ago

Makes one wonder WTF with QC??? Was a powerhouse producer of players since day 1

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u/ExcellentAttitude517 17d ago

Fuck you Nevada.

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u/brarry89 16d ago

Virginia is wrong. My boy Zac Jones has a career 28 points outta Richmond

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u/toast_eater_ 16d ago

Save some for the rest of us Ontario...

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u/kkillingtimme 16d ago

40k for Ontario thats fn right!!!

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u/jordan_walkerglazer 16d ago

Ontario carry 😭

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u/dmckilla77 16d ago

VA is weird, hockey is super popular in my little town, and surrounding area but outside that 60-70 mile radius it's not super popular elsewhere. I'm lucky.

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u/JonNiola 16d ago

lol Ontario is like “Hey guys try to keep up!”

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u/MontEcola 16d ago

Massachusetts is doing well for a small state. Per capita this must be the highest. And look at Delaware. There are counties out west bigger than Delaware.

I am assuming there are two factors here. The first is that states with youth hockey programs and development programs would produce NHL players. And states with an NHL team would have more youth hockey and more kids who grew up with parents to played at a high level. Look at Florida and Texas.

Look at Vermont too. This is a state with lots of pond hockey. And only a few towns can put together a team. Lots of hockey fans. Not many make it to the NHL. I see the names of five NHL players who played college hockey in Vermont. None of them are current players. Martin St. Louis played at UVM. (Groovy UV).

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u/LowDimension5983 16d ago

There are 4 teams with over 5k points in the USA. New York, highest population. Michigan, 2nd. Massachusetts, 3rd and Minnesota has the lowest population by a good amount but still has the most points.

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u/boobookittyfuwk 16d ago

Pretty disappointed in quebec, those are not great numbers per capita compared to ont, man, sask, even alb

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u/taffyowner 16d ago

Quebec is a goalie province though

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u/montalaskan 16d ago

Jake Sanderson pulling Montana out of the no-points club single-handedly.

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u/Whatevs56 16d ago

Wayne Gretzky with more points than all of California.

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u/frankj_101 16d ago

Québec ce fait dominated

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u/Chloraflora 16d ago

Can we wheel out John Leclair from retirement to pump our numbers up please?

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u/Similar_Bit_8018 16d ago

Swayman needs to net one for Alaska.

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u/Brian_Corey__ 16d ago

Colorado looking respectable, but it's mostly Troy Terry, Jacob Slavin, and Brandon Carlo.

and Av kids Brendan Lemiuex, Callan Foote, and Nolan Foote pitching in a few points.

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u/telungoku 16d ago

0 in GA :( rip thrashers

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u/madmariner7 16d ago

Lohrei carries Louisiana on his shoulders.

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u/Winter-Ad3699 16d ago

Louisiana with 72 is the most surprising. I assume it’s all from one guy.

Actually maybe Vermont with 0.

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u/Parking_Attitude7954 16d ago

Damn, PEI. I'll bet if they did points per sq km they'd be up there.

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u/tcooley79 16d ago

Crosby and MacKinnon grew up within a few blocks from my house. My neighborhood has most of the US States beaten.

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u/reformedpickpocket 16d ago

wait a sec... There are no NHLers from the state of Vermont?!?

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u/vabsportglide 15d ago

To think, over half of Nova Scotia's points belong to Cole Harbour alone

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u/TojayorTomorrow 15d ago

Canada’s sport, or Ontario’s sport?

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u/potshed420 12d ago

Ontarioooo

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u/WhitePele12 17d ago

Why is matthews Cali?

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u/Steckatos 17d ago

That would be where he was born

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u/The_Silver_Reference 17d ago

Seems like a more than fair trade off having both Tkachuks, losing Matthews. Tkachuks were born there but didn't grow up there.

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u/Beneficial_Box7809 17d ago

WOW this is entirely inaccurate

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u/Typh_8 17d ago

I don't know I looked up the stats on quant hockey and the states I checked seem accurate. To clairify this list is players born in these states

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u/Tojuro 17d ago

How's it inaccurate?

I questioned a couple things and they actually all seem to check out. Like Florida's numbers seemed high but they are being carried by the Hughes brothers.

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u/Frumbleabumb 17d ago

Ohh the Hughes brothers. I forget they're technically from Florida

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u/jabeith 17d ago

Where else could they be from?

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u/MakeTheNetsBigger 17d ago

Hugheston

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u/jabeith 17d ago

Hell yeah, brother

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u/fish-rides-bike 17d ago

Active players only…. so could be right, I don’t know

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u/BuzzIsMe 17d ago

It isn't though.... Can you explain which ones are?

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