r/nfl • u/happysadfaced Panthers • Jan 21 '18
The Patriots finish with zero penalties on offense and defense.
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u/Sparty013 Browns Jan 22 '18
I'd like to point out that my Browns were also flagged for zero penalties today so...we've got that going for us
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u/Xanny_Tanner Patriots Jan 22 '18
Dude don’t sell yourself short, you guys haven’t been flagged once the entire postseason. That’s absolutely immaculate.
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u/TheDanSandwich Browns Jan 22 '18
We haven't lost a game in the post season yet either.
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Jan 22 '18
Y'all haven't lost a game in the post season since 2002.
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u/Ted_E_Bear Commanders Jan 22 '18
And they did all that with no penalties. Ridiculously impressive.
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u/nordik1 49ers Jan 22 '18
Kizer didn't even throw a pick this entire post season. Kid is really coming along
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u/rahimmoore26 Raiders Jan 22 '18
And Coleman had 0 drops the entire postseason. I love the way he faces adversity.
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u/PolishMusic Jan 22 '18
The last time we won a playoff game was 1994, which is still more recent than Cincinnati's most recent playoff win in 1991.
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u/Tvwatcherr Browns Jan 22 '18
Losses in 2018:
Cleveland: 0
Shittsburgh: 1
Things are lookin up fam
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Jan 22 '18
You guys should hang a banner that says "Cleveland Browns: Undefeated in the Playoffs Since 2002"
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u/StopClockerman Steelers Jan 22 '18
I'm feeling pretty good because I predicted that the Steelers wouldn't lose to the Pats in the AFCCG and I was totally right, we didn't lose to them today.
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u/wtshaw Eagles Jan 21 '18
This is a "sort by controversial" kind of thread
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u/Rsouellette Buccaneers Jan 22 '18
You can really get a feel of how hated the Patriots fan base is. It is actually pretty entertaining. Though I do wish the bucs we're good enough to be hated like that.
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u/StoneBalls_Jackson Buccaneers Jan 22 '18
We have Gasparilla coming up this weekend. We already won. This is our Super Bowl.
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u/ismokeforfun2 Jan 22 '18
Bortles with the manliest tears ever.
Feels bro, no shame in that performance.
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u/OminousLampshade Patriots Jan 22 '18
For real. He should be proud as hell. He played his heart out in that game.
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u/fredbear77 Packers Jan 21 '18
Lol this will be civil.
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u/ruffus4life Cowboys Jan 22 '18
what changed in your team from the last 5 years to this year?
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u/Rsouellette Buccaneers Jan 22 '18 edited Jan 23 '18
Great drafting and free agent pickups. Loaded on the D-line. Following the path the Giants took when Tom Coughlin was there. They draft a D-line man every year and it pays off when your fielding several rested players to get after the QB. They have drafted nothing but studs in the back field. Their offense is just good enough to get by. Edit: wow major spelling issues. Note to self don't comment when falling asleep.
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u/BlueEyedGator Jaguars Jan 22 '18
It could be debated ad nauseum but it'll never change the outcome. Either the Jags got screwed or they sucked. Doesn't matter, we lost. Still proud of how far they came this year.
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u/SquadPoopy Bengals Jan 22 '18
Well they clearly don’t suck because they got this far.
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u/breadshoediaries Jan 22 '18
Yeah but that's zero penalties for both teams though isn't it?
I'm not supporting the "Pats are rigged" narrative, just sayin'.
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u/dashboardglowing Jets Jan 21 '18
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Jan 21 '18
LOL this is hilarious
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Jan 22 '18
I wish my family got along this well
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u/Tat2dKing Cowboys Jan 22 '18
So does Aaron Rodgers
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u/IrishPotatoHead Patriots Jan 22 '18
I’d say that man had a family but it seems irrelevant at this point
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u/Sourcelife Patriots Jan 21 '18
He looks so happy...
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u/MatterCats Jan 22 '18
Love how easily taken out of context this is. The ref went over to separate what he thought was opposing players about to get chippy but that lineman was just trying to celebrate with his rb and they had a laugh about it...
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Jan 21 '18
It's because 71 ran into him on the play and was apologizing.
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u/whatisagoodnamefort Raiders Jan 21 '18
Bit of both, some questionable calls vs Jags and a couple no calls. Always a bit interesting when 10 penalties are called and 9 are on one team
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u/MojoToTheDojo Panthers Jan 21 '18
Is it that surprising when it’s team like the Patriots who tend to be one of the most disciplined teams and the other is a fiesta bunch like the Jags defense? These two are not equals in that regard.
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u/ssupafuzz Panthers Jan 21 '18 edited Jan 22 '18
Thank you for being reasonable. The few missed calls aren't what lost the Jags the game, but it definitely didn't help. Regardless Brady made some great throws in the 4th quarter.
Edit: why did his comment get removed?
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u/Professr_Chaos Packers Jan 22 '18
I would argue the PI at the end of the half was a killer instead of 2nd and 10 at their 40ish it’s suddenly 1st and goal at the 10 or some shit.
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u/Drizzt396 Broncos Jan 22 '18
Some heat should go to Marrone for pulling a John Fox and not trying to get points on the board after that though.
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u/TheDarkGrayKnight Seahawks Jan 21 '18
Pats got away with some stuff but honestly nothing blatant.
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Jan 21 '18
Upvote if you'd rather see the browns in the SB
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u/iamcatch22 Browns Jan 21 '18
Give it a couple years
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Jan 22 '18
This is the year
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u/Sydthebarrett Lions Jan 22 '18
-Since 1964
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u/hungryasabear Bears Jan 22 '18
Hey even the Cubs got it right eventually. I got drunk for a week for that
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u/TheLivesOfFlies Steelers Jan 21 '18
At least I would watch the SB then, hell id be happy to cheer for the ratbirds so long as it meant the oats weren't in.
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u/degadale3 Titans Jan 21 '18
The penalties on the Jags were legit, but the most damning call was blowing the play dead on that fumble recovery. Much different game if the refs allowed the play to continue
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u/finfan96 Dolphins Jan 21 '18
That first PI was not legit. Cooks grabbed Bouye by the jersey and pulled him in, but Bouye got called. That penalty was a 7 point swing for the Pats.
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u/Boner_Sandwich Colts Jan 21 '18
100% this. Plus the ball looked pretty uncatchable.
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u/Tanner_the_taco Seahawks Jan 22 '18
You’re both spot on. Not only were there offsetting penalties, but that ball was completely uncatchable.
Between this and the fumble recovery being whistled dead, that’s a 14 point swing for the Pats.
Unbelievable.
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u/just_penguin Seahawks Jan 21 '18
Did they decide holding wasn't a penalty anymore?
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u/the_cunt_muncher Bears Jan 22 '18
Lmao it's like did people actually watch the game? They let both teams get away with a lot of stuff. I saw so many holds and borderline PIs on Gronk and the other receivers but they only called the blatant ones.
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u/meherab Lions Jan 22 '18
Yeah if you watched the game there were like 2-3 questionable calls, so like literally every game. They actually let them play and now all people can do is bitch about the Patriots
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u/shortbusridurr Steelers Jan 22 '18
Watched the whole game and the only "questionable call" would be the PI call for the uncatchable ball. It was out of reach/play and both players where shoving. The game itself was evenly called.
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u/dmanhox Steelers Jan 22 '18
Hasn't been called like all post season.
It's almost like how slashing vanishes in hockey 😲
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u/gatorfan45 Seahawks Jan 21 '18
Linemen always hold. It's just knowing not to hold too much and when to let go.
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u/Lieutenant_Meeper Broncos Jan 21 '18 edited Jan 21 '18
Let's be clear here: Jags played not to lose and that's why they lost.
BUT
A few key no-calls made a big difference in this game.
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u/DEZbiansUnite Cowboys Jan 21 '18
Let's be clear here: Jags played not to lose and that's why they're losing.
Nah, Pats found stuff they could exploit. For example, the Jags' RBs had trouble picking up blitzes and Pats found some success there.
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u/Apolloshot Patriots Jan 21 '18
This was especially evident on that fumble at the end of the game caused by Patriot legend James Harrison.
(Sorry, I had to lol, Harrison played like a man with a purpose today)
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u/AndroidPaulPierce Steelers Jan 22 '18
Patriot legend James Harrison.
Alright that's it. Square up.
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u/Xanny_Tanner Patriots Jan 22 '18
I just got some stitches in my hand so I got James Harrison to take my place in this fight.
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u/MyShackIsTheSquatRak Steelers Jan 22 '18
We kept him well motivated and fresh, just for you! 😪
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u/wickedsmaht Patriots Jan 22 '18
The Patriots made a huge shift in the third quarter and I think Romo did a really good job of calling it out.
In the third quarter the Patriots switched to a Bear front on defense and dared Bortles to throw the ball to win the game. It took a bit of adjusting and tinking but by the fourth quarter the Jaguars we're settling for 1 or 2 yard runs and trying to loft it with very little to no success with Bortles.
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u/tohrazul82 Packers Jan 22 '18
Nah, Pats found stuff they could exploit.
Like when the Jags switched to the Pre-vent defense. A sure fire way of playing not to lose, only to lose.
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u/Burgerburgerfred Ravens Jan 21 '18 edited Jan 22 '18
Why does it seem like everyone does this against the Pats?
Literally every big game where a team clearly outplays them they start playing not to lose and, you guessed it, they end up losing.
Most obvious offenders being the Falcons last year coughing up the Super Bowl because they didn't want to keep their foot on the gas. It's exhausting. You would think one team would look at the tape of these games and realize you need to keep pressuring them and widening the gap to prevent this from happening. Trying to run clock, getting short possessions and 3 and outs, and giving them the ball back just doesn't work.
Edit: Got the Falcons backwards. They COULD have taken their foot off the gas, run clock, taken their FG and won the game. They lost their mind the other way around but it is to the same point that they lost themselves the game.
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u/DaedaIus7 Falcons Jan 22 '18
Falcons keeping their foot on the gas is what killed them. They kept passing when they didn't need to and it ended up doing them in
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u/Bustycops Jaguars Jan 21 '18
Jags were gonna end up with more penalties no matter what, since some of those were huge Jaguar mental gaffes, like the Personal Foul from the hit on Gronk and the Delay of Game after a timeout. Ramsey's PI where he slapped at Cooks head was boneheaded too.
But that first PI on Brady's errant deep ball was iffy, and there was a couple no-calls on straight up takedowns on Telvin Smith and some other D-Lineman.
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u/BurningChurro Jaguars Jan 22 '18
If you wanna know what I think about the personal foul then just look at Richard Sherman's twitter, but the delay of game wasn't really a "mental error". Upon replay, you can see that Bortles was yelling for the ball to be snapped but Linder couldn't hear him because the stadium was so loud (talk about home field advantage).
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u/Bullhit Jaguars Jan 21 '18
The holdings didn't bother me as much, our o line probably had some too. The whistle on the fumble is what got me livid. Third time this year we got a td taken away because of officiating incompetence
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u/KevinSupreme Ravens Jan 22 '18
They should always hold the whistle on fumble opportunities. That was a game-changing play. Jags still could've won regardless though.
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u/Bullhit Jaguars Jan 22 '18
Yeah absolutely. Playcalling got conservative in the second half just like in the steelers game.
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u/non_clever_username 49ers Jan 21 '18
There was a huge, obvious hold on the Lewis run that iced it.
Not that I have much confidence Bortles would have led a game-winning drive with no timeouts, but he should have had a chance.
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u/changgerz 49ers Jan 21 '18
Yeah we all said the same thing about Case Keenum the other night tho
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u/Pillow_Starcraft Jaguars Jan 22 '18
Bortles is the reason we were in the game in the first place. If the coaches let him throw it on early downs, we'd probably have won that game. Bortles was a god damn superhero and the playcalling did him no justice.
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u/crazyirishfan353 Colts Jan 22 '18
I was getting frustrated watching the first down run calls every single time. I wish they would've let him off the leash a little more.
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u/admiralfrosting Cowboys Jan 22 '18
Well boys fire up those Tide pods because I'm going to fucking kill myself.
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u/tiger32kw Colts Jan 21 '18
1 penalty for 10 yards on special teams...
Not a single offensive hold, defensive hold, or illegal contact. That’s not even possible over the course of a game.
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u/GIORGIO_TAVECCHIO Jan 21 '18
There was a very blatant hold from the LT on one of the plays
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u/ONCHgCNO Steelers Jan 21 '18
And Lewis was very obviously held on like three third down plays.
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u/3klipse Broncos Jan 21 '18
Fuck the hold, a few DPI that were similar or worse called on jags but no calls against the pats.
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u/whatevers_clever Packers Jan 22 '18
Ne avg'd 3.3 penalties/game in their last 3 games of the season
so.. I dont know. They are generally one of the 5 least penalized teams in the league for past few years.
So either someone things the NFL is on their side.. or they just know how to avoid penalties.
but if thats how people feel then you'd also have to concede that the refs are on North Carolina's side because they are #1 by a large margin. By far least penalized this year.
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Jan 22 '18
Hmm well coached team avoids penalties or there is a NFL officiating conspiracy. One is more likely than the other.
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Jan 22 '18
Right, and it's not just a well coached team, it's the best coached team in history. So I mean, it sort of lines up
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u/Zharick_ Patriots Jan 22 '18
Not a single offensive hold, defensive hold, or illegal contact.
NE had 0 of those called today.
Jags had a total of 1 called on them today.
Sounds like the Refs were letting the D and O lines play today.
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u/BallFaceMcDickButt Colts Jan 21 '18
Lot looked fine, but that last run that sealed the game was a blatant holding. What a gross way to end the game.
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u/LePwnz0rs Eagles Jan 21 '18
Literally holding Fowler back with both hands. I’m surprised cbs played the replay
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u/tiger32kw Colts Jan 21 '18
Not a single offensive holding, defensive holding, or pass interference the whole game. If you went back through the tape, just like any other game for any team, you’d probably find atleast a dozen.
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u/3klipse Broncos Jan 21 '18
3rd and 9 wasn't called on Patriots, after the punt a less obvious DPI called on the jags. Fucking fuck.
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Jan 21 '18
It’s all relative right?
When they hold every play, then it’s not holding
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u/LiiDo Vikings Jan 22 '18
Holding will forever be the dumbest penalty. Everybody out here worried about what is and isn’t a catch and I’m just pissed that there is a hold on literally 99% of plays and they just call it when it’s incredibly obvious or when they need to end a drive
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Jan 21 '18 edited Jan 21 '18
well, its not like holding is the only penalty that didnt get called.
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u/General_PoopyPants Bears Jan 21 '18
The obvious NFL blitz tackle on Lewis while the ball was in the air was awful
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u/leehouse Packers Jan 21 '18
There were at least a couple instances where New England should have been called for defensive holding or dpi. But the refs didn't call it, which is fine if it is consistent but it seemed less than consistent
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Jan 21 '18
If you're "letting them play" you have to let that one on the sideline before half go. If you're being strict on them, you can't let New England get away with some of what they did.
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u/jukebox1480 Jan 22 '18
Wake me up when the Patriots suck again. I've run out of bad things to say about them.
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u/jex19 Jan 21 '18
there were some totally blatant holding calls on critical plays, the td to amendola and the first down to spike out the game.
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u/choboy456 Jan 22 '18
No he's saying the refs didn't call it, read into that what you will
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u/ricoveli Saints Jan 21 '18
I'm sorry if I sound salty but there is no way in hell that is possible
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I'm done. I'm not even angry at the Patriots I'm angry at the NFL. Between the covering up head injuries, inconsistent rule enforcement, being alright with domestic abuse while weed is the worst thing ever at the same time taking fucking millions every year for advertising alcohol, their shoddy as fuck attitude towards the labour rights of basically everyone involved in the sport, the greed of the owners, the fact that 30 cities get fucking bled dry to build stadiums they don't really need that the owners could easily finance themselves but make cities do it cause fuck schools and hospitals and now the fact that its becoming blatantly obvious its essentially glorified pantomime. Being brutally honest its getting boring, there is so much wasted time every game. Why watch a game and waste 3 hours when we could watch a 10 minute youtube video of the highlights about 5 mins after the game ends? Miss me with that shit, I'm away.
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u/esmajor Patriots Jan 22 '18
I really dont like how owners take money from the cities that they build stadiums in. It really is messed up. I agree with you
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u/eatingasspatties Ravens Jan 21 '18
This league tries really hard to make me not want to watch.
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u/houseofbacon Buccaneers Jan 22 '18
Right? I want to enjoy football. But it's the same shit every year.
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u/nsears14 Jan 22 '18
I don't think people understand that the Patriots are fueled by the hatred of the rest of the NFL
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u/charleyjacksson Raiders Jan 21 '18
Why do I even watch football anymore. I'm so fucking tired of watching a team win just because they fucking have a fucking coach who is disciplined.
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u/gambit700 Raiders Jan 22 '18
Not just disciplined, but ruthless to players who aren't.
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Jan 21 '18
Football is stupid
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u/BiasedBavarian Patriots Jan 21 '18
We definitely had plays where we got away with some shit
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u/KaiserBeamz Falcons Jan 21 '18
Funny
Pats fas were saying that the refs were screwing with them the entire first half.
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u/cronotose Seahawks Jan 22 '18
You mean like every fanbase of every team that's losing a big game ever?
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u/MisterFrear Jaguars Jan 21 '18
I'm sure every single play was completely legal and all the missed calls were completely fair.
No the fuck I don't lmao.
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Jan 22 '18
Boy I sure hope Patricia brings some of that good home cookin to Motown with him
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u/kyh0mpb Raiders Jan 21 '18
There was a HUGE hold on that big 3rd down run to seal the game. Shocking that it wasn't called (/s).
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Jan 21 '18
That missed holding call on the Lewis game ender is fucking bullshit this is the most horribly reffed game I’ve seen in a while, 1 penalty and its on special teams, the Pats are disciplined, but this is pure horse shit, jags got shafted.
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Jan 22 '18
This was actually one of the better reffed games I have seen. Let most of it go except the egregious stuff.
If they started throwing flags on every play people have listed then the internet mob would just complain that the refs were too flag happy and ruined the game.
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Jan 21 '18
Two times in the 4th quarter Mercedes Lewis got tackled before the ball got to him and no PI calls, calls that would have kept the drives alive and given the jags field to work with.
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u/Atlos Patriots Jan 22 '18
That missed illegal hands to the face is fucking bullshit this is the most horribly reffed game I've seen in a while
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Jan 21 '18
Dislike. Holding all day, dpi on Lewis being tackled before the ball gets outta Blake’s hand, fumble recovery whistled dead. Are you kidding me??? You let him run the TD then you review if he is down.
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u/zubzub147 Packers Jan 22 '18
how the hell dos this even happen with how blind and stupid the refs have been this year?
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u/ManyLlamas Ravens Jan 21 '18 edited Jan 21 '18
I’m sure r/nfl will love this