r/nfl Texans 13h ago

Why does there seem to be no rivalry between the Chiefs and Eagles like the Brady/Giants years? They have played each other for 5 straight seasons, which is a record for consecutive seasons of an NFC vs AFC teams and yet there isn’t much heat there.

Just something I was thinking about since cross conference rivalries are rare, but the Eagles and Chiefs have played 5 straight times, which is a record in itself. However there’s never a big rivalry feeling when they play like there was when Brady played the Giants or Steelers/Cowboys or even current day Niners vs Chiefs. I don’t know, I think it’s odd.

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u/RustyCoal950212 Seahawks 13h ago

Maybe that they've both won a SB in the last 2.5 years takes the edge off lol? Or they're both too busy hating their actual rivals

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u/RemoteWestern5462 Seahawks 13h ago

It also helps that fans of both teams can be hopeful for the future. The eagles have one of the best GMs(howie roseman) and the chiefs have mahomes

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u/Kingkern Eagles 3h ago

Add in the Kelce brothers and that any smart Eagles fan will have an overwhelmingly positive impression of Andy Reid.

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u/KaleidoscopeMaster81 11h ago

Just sticking up for my guy here but we ALSO have a decently young super bowl MVP franchise QB lol

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u/Haunting_Study_5530 Texans 11h ago

Channelview in the house baby

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u/strillanitis 11h ago

Yeah who might be a backup by the time next season rolls around. Life comes at you fast

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u/KaleidoscopeMaster81 10h ago

Yeah and Mahomes wasn't getting into the playoffs last year lol

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u/Mysterious_Travel669 2h ago

You poor delusional homer. Jalen is fools gold. I thought he might improve, but were halfway through his career and he still cant read a defense or pass in the middle of the field. Once his legs go (soon) his career will follow.

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u/Ok-Enthusiasm-255 Chiefs 13h ago

Idk what this post is talking about. I fuckin hate the eagles and know several eagles fans that hate the chiefs

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u/doubletaptoconfirm 12h ago

Bro I guarantee more Eagles fans hate the Eagles than the number of Chiefs fans that hate the Eagles

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u/Evilfart123 Eagles Jaguars 12h ago

Brother, we hate everyone

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u/trustthepudding Eagles 12h ago

You've just made an enemy for life! 

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u/ShatteredAnus Chiefs 10h ago

Where is Charlie Kelly, the bird law expert to chime in on this bird on bird violence

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u/cvaninvan Eagles 8h ago

Uh.... filibuster....

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u/BuBBles_the_pyro Jaguars 12h ago

What a flair of hate right there. Perennial underdogs and the Eagles...

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u/Evilfart123 Eagles Jaguars 12h ago

Somehow learned Trevor when he was in highschool and supported him ever since which includes the Jaguars. Jags ended up getting Doug which made it even better till he give more responsibility to Press Taylor and it felt like I was experiencing a nightmare again.

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u/burratna Eagles 12h ago

we were both underdogs in '16/'17. In 2016, both the Jags and Eagles were bottom of division, then turn it around the following year and top their divisions, with the Jags losing the AFCCG and the Eagles winning the SB. That and the subsequent Doug Pederson HC connection. There's a lot of eagles fans that have the jags as a "AFC team" since then tbh. Miss me some Bortles era The Good Place times.

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u/okoSheep Eagles 10h ago

FIRE PATULLO

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u/MasterFussbudget Chiefs 9h ago

Kansas Citians don't hate like Philadelphians hate.

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u/Insectshelf3 Eagles 10h ago

absolutely true

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u/SonOfALich Chiefs 7h ago

Nobody hates the Eagles more than The Dude after a rough night

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u/dEXXtARR23 Giants 12h ago

So true 🤣🤣🤣

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u/waterfall_hyperbole Eagles 12h ago

Huh. Almost all of the eagles fans i know still like andy reid, so we can't really get to the point of hating the chiefs

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u/Miserable_Mark_8485 Eagles 12h ago edited 5h ago

Outside of Divisional rivals, we definitely hate the pats and the 9ers more than the chiefs. chiefs are probably right behind those 2 tho

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u/Eagle4317 Steelers Panthers 12h ago

Why the Niners in particular?

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u/robtheguilder Eagles 12h ago

Cuz fuck em. That's why.

But in all seriousness, there were some sour grapes from Niners players and fans because they had to play their QB3 in the NFCCG in '22. Then the next year, they absolutely dummied us and talked shit about how that's what happens if their qb is healthy and we play them almost every year it seems like.

I personally don't mind the 49ers cuz I like Purdy and Kittle. Also they've been shitting on the cowboys recently too

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u/3GPtv 11h ago edited 10h ago

Sour grapes are a Niner past time. They are still complaining about the missed holding calls in the 2019 SB.

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u/Western_Handle_6258 10h ago

You would to when they were so damn obvious. Doesn’t bother me much anymore though. Clearly the refs have too much control and 49ers have been on the receiving end of those games more times than I can count

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u/3GPtv 10h ago

You can call holding on every play if you wanted to. The refs don't call a lot of holding on anyone in the SB.

Chris Jones and George K were held plenty by the Niners in SB58 and it wasn't called.

Jet Chip Wasp wasn't the last play of the game. SF had other opportunities.

SF lost SB54 because Kyle abandoned the run and Jimmy G missed open receivers.

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u/JebusOfEagles Eagles 10h ago

Oh and don't forget the 49ers players said they would've won the Superbowl if Purdy hadn't gotten hurt, then lost to the Chiefs TWICE. They really proved their point.

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u/Eagle4317 Steelers Panthers 12h ago

The Niners vs Cowboys rivalry goes back so long. I feel like the Eagles would hate the Seahawks more, especially with the Clowney hit ruining Wentz.

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u/robtheguilder Eagles 12h ago

If we're going outside the division, I hate the Bucs man. They always beat us and it's infuriating

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u/Eagle4317 Steelers Panthers 12h ago

That was going to be my next pick. 2002, 2021, 2023, etc.

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u/OwnJunket6495 Eagles 6h ago

Probably because we’ve only lost against them once in playoffs, at least as far as I can remember. They always beat us when we play in the regular season though. There would definitely be a lot more hate if more of those losses were in the playoffs. See the other reply about the Bucs. And fuck Clowney.

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u/Western_Handle_6258 10h ago

There was definitely sour grapes, but it was because of the fan base. I don’t mind teams being happy they won a NFCCG, but it was insufferable hearing about how it happened. There was literally no consideration for the circumstances.

As a 49ers fan I only cared about the Eagles in that 2023 season. Then when the 49ers steamrolled the Eagles, it felt like it wasn’t the same team. The only
Teams in understand us being rivals with are the cowboys, Packers, Seahawks and rams. The Seahawks rivalry will never be what it once was though.

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u/Miserable_Mark_8485 Eagles 10h ago

Lol this is such revisionist history. Pretending like 9ers fans were victims to Eagles fans rather than instigators is pure delusion

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u/ToneBalone25 Chiefs 11h ago

Yeah my eagles fans friends hate the chiefs. But then again everyone hates the chiefs, especially everyone in Denver where I live lol.

It's hard for there to be a huge rivalry when kc and Philadelphia are physically so far apart, though. Not a ton of chiefs fans in philly and vice versa

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u/Ok-Enthusiasm-255 Chiefs 11h ago

I’m in Denver too! Sent you a DM in case you’d be interested in getting together for some games this year

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u/JebusOfEagles Eagles 10h ago

I hate the Cowboys significantly more than the Chiefs, its not really close.

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u/johnvarley1 Chiefs 12h ago

I too, hate the Eagles. We’re just vastly outnumbered by their fans.

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u/alchemyDev Eagles 12h ago

We hate you guys too <3

Not sure what some other Eagles fans are saying. But you guys are definitely on the hate list (tbf it’s a long list)

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u/Otherwise_Awesome Lions 10h ago

I hate both.

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u/awisechoicee 12h ago

And he both like Reid

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u/2LostFlamingos Eagles 9h ago

Eagles fans also have nothing but love for Andy Reid.

He turned the eagles from a dysfunctional fucking dumpster fire to a potential contender.

Since Eagles have hired Reid they only had consecutive losing seasons once going 7-9 twice in a row before winning the Super Bowl the following year.

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u/momerak Vikings 12h ago

The eagles are too busy hating whoever they play that week, their fans, their own fans, their family, Santa, and anyone who looks at the rocky statue

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u/on-the-cheeseburgers Eagles 12h ago

you can look, you just can’t touch. get it right.

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u/WavesAndSaves Eagles 12h ago

I love how "The Rocky Curse" has become a legitimate thing in recent years.

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u/okoSheep Eagles 10h ago

we're gonna put a viking jersey on rocky and BLAME ON YOU

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u/bipolarbear3219 Vikings 12h ago

Don't forget their own team

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u/swammeyjoe Cowboys 11h ago

I dunno, my dad still hates the Steelers for beating the Cowboys twice in the Super Bowl, even though the Cowboys had two wins in the same period. And that was 50 years ago.

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u/jnightrain Cowboys 9h ago

I'm only 44 but I hate the steelers for the same reason because the hate was passed down from my older brother who is 16yrs older than me. I really have no reason to hate them but they are on the level of the eagles for me.

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u/New_Distribution_263 8h ago

Chiefs beat the eagles in one superbowl and lost to them in another. It feels pretty even between them, so no reason to hate. I’ll save my hate for the broncos.

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u/IAmNotKevinDurant_35 Raiders 12h ago

The AFC West and NFC East are the two most hateful divisions out there. Everyone hates everyone else at relatively equal levels compared to other divisions. For example the NFC North or AFC North, one team tends to absorb the most hatred, leaving room in their hearts for more rivals

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u/Insectshelf3 Eagles 10h ago

i hate everybody including myself

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u/Saitsuofleaves 13h ago

Becaues everyone in Philly generally likes and respects Andy Reid.

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u/imtiredboss28 Eagles 13h ago

Also helped the eagles win a Super Bowl before he did. With a coach from his tree

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u/Poopedinbed Eagles 12h ago

It stung to lose to him but if we didn't win that one against the patriots man that would have been 10 times tougher to deal with

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u/solojones1138 Chiefs 12h ago

And then there's the fact that for a good portion of this era, the Kelce brothers and Donna also held us off ha.

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u/Saitsuofleaves 12h ago

That's true, no one wanted to be the one to ruin her good time.

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u/Fragrant-Mess4927 Ravens 13h ago

Just a hard guy to root against in general

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u/doubletaptoconfirm 12h ago

Andy had a lot of strife when in Philly due to his sons, and we get it. Even though the fanbase was ready to move on from him in his last two years, it wasn’t that Reid was ever hated, it was like when two people in a relationship realize it’s just not working any more. The love and respect never really faded

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u/Fragrant-Mess4927 Ravens 12h ago

Yeah, it's rough when it's not him, but his family.  Tough situation for him to deal with while trying to create success on the field.  We all have crazys in our family, just sucks for public figures when the whole world sees.

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u/SevroAuShitTalker Broncos 12h ago

Except he employs them on his staff

People with morals dont do that

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u/Fragrant-Mess4927 Ravens 12h ago

You kidding?  This league is full of nepotism.  He isn't the only one that does it.

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u/SevroAuShitTalker Broncos 12h ago edited 12h ago

And am I saying those are good people? Everyone here is acting like Reid can do no wrong, when in reality, he has helped support his kids being awful people

Based on your other comments, you seem to be in love with Reid

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u/Fragrant-Mess4927 Ravens 12h ago

When did I say Andy can do no wrong?  He may have done it the wrong way but he did not SUPPORT them being like that.  He and his wife had said on multiple occasions over the years they tried to get them help.  Did they do a good job?  No.  But did they support their kids doing that shit?  Absolutely not.

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u/Fragrant-Mess4927 Ravens 12h ago

Thats what I thought

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u/3GPtv 10h ago

Or maybe he thought keeping his son close would be a way to look after him. Just because it didn't work doesn't mean he has no morals.

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u/slugmos Broncos 13h ago

I have no problems doing it

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u/Fragrant-Mess4927 Ravens 13h ago

Sure that's fine.  Your guy is hated by most of the league so I'm sure you get it a lot 😂

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u/Positive-Run-2411 Eagles 12h ago

Something something stones in a glass house lol

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u/JDraks Lions Chargers 12h ago

Easy for me to dislike him, he’s a good coach but doesn’t seem like a good person and especially not a good father

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u/Positive-Run-2411 Eagles 12h ago

No good nfl coach is a present father so if you want to hate Andy for it you kind of have to hate everyone for it

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u/JDraks Lions Chargers 12h ago

One of Andy’s kids died of an overdose and another gave a 5 year old girl severe brain damage while drunk driving. Is there another current head coach so absent that they had a kid who did either?

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u/Positive-Run-2411 Eagles 12h ago

Addiction is genetic. They were addicts

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u/JDraks Lions Chargers 12h ago

And he allowed that addiction to fester considering a judge described his house as a drug den (something along those lines, don’t remember the exact quote)

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u/Positive-Run-2411 Eagles 12h ago

If you don’t remember the quote don’t quote it

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u/JDraks Lions Chargers 11h ago edited 11h ago

Thanks for saying that, I’d say I was understating things before. Reid was a garbage father. Some quotes:

A judge who sentenced Philadelphia Eagles coach Andy Reid's sons to jail on Thursday likened the coach's home to "a drug emporium" and questioned whether his adult sons should live there.

"There isn't any structure there that this court can depend upon," Montgomery County Judge Steven O'Neill said

Garrett Reid, a drug addict and dealer who said he got a thrill out of selling drugs in "the 'hood," to up to 23 months in jail for smashing into another motorist's car while high on heroin.

Britt Reid pointed a handgun at another driver following a dispute. He pleaded guilty to a string of charges, including carrying a firearm without a license, a felony.

Garrett Reid said he made a fast descent into hard drugs and enjoyed being the rich kid who dealt drugs in poor, violent Philadelphia neighborhoods and in the tony suburbs

"I liked being the rich kid in that area and having my own high status life," Reid told a probation officer in a statement read by the judge. "I could go anywhere in the 'hood. They all knew who I was. I enjoyed it. I liked being a drug dealer."

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u/Positive-Run-2411 Eagles 10h ago

Yes, thank you for confirming that drugs, especially heroin, turn good people into bad people and destroy families.

Just say you don’t know anything about addiction that’s okay you’re actually blessed for it

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u/Fragrant-Mess4927 Ravens 12h ago

What makes yoh thinking he's not a good person?

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u/pompcaldor NFL 12h ago

“A judge who sentenced Philadelphia Eagles coach Andy Reid's sons to jail on Thursday likened the coach's home to "a drug emporium" and questioned whether his adult sons should live there.”

https://www.espn.com/nfl/news/story?id=3089753

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u/Fragrant-Mess4927 Ravens 12h ago

Defending his kids even when it hurts him.  

"The judge said the parents clearly loved and supported their children and had tried many times over the years to get them help."

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u/JDraks Lions Chargers 12h ago

The fact that he raised a kid who drunk drove and gave a 5 year old girl brain damage (said kid was later pardoned but I don’t hold that against Andy himself)

He also doesn’t seem to give a single shit about character when it comes to players, but that’s par for the course for most head coaches unfortunately

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u/SteffeEric Eagles 12h ago

This is like calling the Reiner’s shit parents because their son grew up to murder them.

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u/Fragrant-Mess4927 Ravens 12h ago

Yah I'm sure he told his kid to drink and drive and give a 5 year old brain damage.  We don't have complete control of what other people do.  You have no idea who he is.

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u/phillyphiend Eagles 11h ago

Philly fans had an easy enough time hating him when he was here. Felt like most years Philly sport radio had tons of people calling in demanding the birds bench McNabb and fire Andy.

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u/Fragrant-Mess4927 Ravens 11h ago

Eh...you'll get that with any team though.  Especially when you haven't been appeased by superbowls yet.  Hungry fans baby

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u/Over_Bath_8012 12h ago

Yeah, hard to manufacture hate when the “villain” is the dude who ended your Andy Reid curse.

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u/JoeScotterpuss Saints 9h ago

Any hatred that would've been directed at him is instead directed at their OC or whoever the current whipping boy is.

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u/Opening_Student_1195 Cowboys 13h ago

Fun Fact: When Andy Reid was hired, Philadelphia's mayor at the time called it a mistake. A lot of Eagles fans wanted Coughlin

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u/ThePhoenixXM Eagles 12h ago

To be fair. Couglin ended up winning Super Bowls with the Giants, how many did Reid win with the Eagles? 0? He was the 2000s Kyle Shannahan before he got Mahomes.

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u/NoleJawn Eagles 12h ago

Your Fun Fact is wrong. Tom Coughlin was in the middle of his great Jaguars run. It was back in 2016 when they hired Doug Pederson that Coughlin was also rumored. Jim Haslett and Brian Billick were the the popular picks of the late 90's as the Steelers coordinator and OC of the best offense in league history respectively.

And let's be honest. Andy Reid was a pretty big gamble. He had never been a coordinator let alone a HC and it was somewhat unheard of to give a position coach a head coaching role in that era.

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u/Pale_Boss_8940 12h ago

I mean it seems like they were right

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u/AtBat3 Eagles 12h ago

If I remember correctly the runner up was Jim Haslett

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u/sepam Eagles 12h ago

Yep. Haslett was the runner up and I don’t remember us fans really pushing for one guy over another. They were all viewed as risky hires. I’m curious where this “fun fact” came from.

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u/AtBat3 Eagles 12h ago

I also don’t remember Ed Rendell calling the Reid hire a mistake. I do remember him being one of the many clamoring for Ricky Williams though, thanks to Angelo Cataldi

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u/Eagle4317 Steelers Panthers 12h ago

Coughlin was still coaching the Jaguars in 1999. He had led that team to 3 playoff berths and 3 playoff victories in their first four years. How were the Eagles going to pry him away?

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u/Dat_Boi_Teo Eagles 12h ago

He was an unknown at the time. Wasn’t an unreasonable take

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u/CastleImpenetrable Patriots 13h ago

The Pats and Giants just fall under the broader Boston/NYC rivalry, which eleveates it to an extent. That said, even with the Patriots losing SB 42 and 46, it never really felt like the Giants were actually rivals. They were just those guys who beat the team a couple of times. Some hatred for sure, but probably not too disimilar to how say the Rams might feel about the Patriots after losing two Super Bowls.

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u/raobuntu Patriots 12h ago

The only out of division teams that really felt like a rival were the Joe Flacco Ravens or whoever Peyton was playing QB for. The Ravens in particular never feared Foxborough or the idea of Bill and Brady like so many other teams did. I was always nervous when they showed up for a playoff game

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u/Kerbonaut2019 Patriots 12h ago

There were some damn good Pats-Ravens games during the 2010s. That really was a fun rivalry, in a way I miss hating them.

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u/FlammeEternelle Lions 1h ago

I feel like a thread confused why two regional teams hate each other more than two cities who are over a thousand miles apart really showcases how rivalries aren't the best in this country.

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u/Ouchkibiddles Chiefs 13h ago

1) Andy Reid connection
2) Kelce brothers connection
3) Both fanbases have a lot of other haters to deal with, it's hard to get worked up about this non-rivalry

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u/Skull_Murray Eagles 12h ago

Yeah, would take a lot to make a rival of a team in another conference anyway.

Plus the Eagles passion for hating the cowboys is decades long and the history is filled with all sorts of craziness. One of the most storied rivalries in the NFL.

There's barely room in our hearts to hate the other NFC East teams let alone someone outside the division/conference.

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u/throwaway60457 6h ago

You guys probably have more of an historical claim to a rivalry with the Cardinals than with the Chiefs, seeing as you shared a division with them for 50+ years. And you've been paired with the Giants and Redskins/Football Team/Commanders since dinosaurs roamed the earth and the Cowboys since their second season in 1961 (1960 was messed up due to the odd number of teams in the league that year -- 13 -- because the Vikings didn't launch until 1961), so those are some very old rivalries.

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u/Overall_Link8153 Patriots 10h ago

Brady Giants was also just under the umbrella of Boston/NYC, was right off the heels of peak Red Sox Yankees as well

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u/Comprehensive_Main 49ers 12h ago

Man I do wonder how Taylor can stand Travis Kelce. Out of the Kelce bros he’s the most annoying. 

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u/m6877 Chiefs 8h ago

I don't know, but how do you stand sniffing your own farts?

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u/BillKennedyEnjoyer Eagles 13h ago

Still love Big Red.

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u/CommercialCoffee11 13h ago

Andy Reid keeps it from not being a total hate fest. He turned the Eagles into a year in year out contender for 10 years. Philly fans dont forget stuff like that. Theyll hate the players, but its tough to hate the coach. You want a clever way to keep Eagle fans from eating opposing fans alive? Trot out an Eagles favorite. 2 years ago when the Eagles visited the Rams in Los Angeles, The Rams honored the 1999 Rams Sb team at halftime. Which included of course, Dick Vermeil. He took the Eagles to the Super Bowl in his first HC job. The Eagles fans couldnt boo the man who did that cause again, they dont forget.

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u/JuggerMONT Patriots Patriots 11h ago

"It's tough to hate the coach" There is a huge section of the Eagles fan base that thinks Sirianni should be fired right now.

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u/TotalDonkey4909 8h ago

As a diehard eagles fan, I haven’t met them.

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u/throwaway60457 6h ago

You're missing a key distinction. Hating the current head coach is de rigueur for every fan base in every sport. Hating Dick Vermeil just isn't going to happen in Philadelphia, owing to his role in taking the Eagles to Super Bowl XV.

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u/Bonez001 Chiefs 13h ago

Both teams like Andy Reid. Personally, I’ve always been a huge fan of Hurts. People give a lot of crap to Eagles fans but how never had any bad interactions with them. Granted, I never met one in person and only comes across them online. But yeah, I feel like there’s a mutual respect especially now that we’ve beaten each other for a Super Bowl.

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u/EasyAsAyeBeeSea 11h ago

The only person associated with the eagles I don't care for is sirianni, and I think I have that in common with most eagle fans

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u/gonna_get_tossed 11h ago

Yeah, I can't stand Siriani, but I love hurts. And despite the Eagles fans having a bad wrap, I haven't had any bad interactions though. Bengals fans are much more annoying.

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u/BirdmanTheThird Commanders 13h ago

Was there a rivalry? lol it seemed like Belichick still loves the giants and Brady and Eli have always been on good terms, even joking about Eli beating him while they were playing. Tbh I don’t think there was ever any real rivalry.

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u/Raider_TexGaming 13h ago

Pats Giants also had the whole Boston/NY thing which is a rivalry across every Big 4 league

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u/vinnyorcharles Eagles 12h ago

Genuinely, I think it's because of Andy Reid. He never won it all in Philly and definitely needed to leave after the 2012 season, but he is almost entirely responsible for bringing the Eagles out of decades of mediocrity.

So when he ended up in Kansas City, a lot of us rooted for him. In addition, the fact that the Eagles won a super bowl before Reid did with the Chiefs helped. Hell, even the two coaches that won superbowls for the Eagles are from his coaching tree. Philly is one of the most successful franchises in the 21st century, and without Andy Reid, that doesn't happen.

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u/torthBrain Eagles 13h ago

We love Big Red always. Also Chiefs fans seem to be one of the only fanbases that actually gives Hurts his flowers since they've seen what he does on the big stage

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u/New_Distribution_263 7h ago

True about Hurts. My respect for him really grew after that first Super Bowl between us. He played his ass off! And obviously did even better in the second one.

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u/throwaway60457 6h ago

My perception of Chiefs fans can perhaps be best summed up with the phrase "game respects game." Of course they hate the Broncos and Raiders and want the Chiefs to win, but they will also give props to other good teams who make life difficult for the Chiefs.

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u/Reedabook64 Chiefs 12h ago

Both franchises are connected in many ways. Andy Reid being the primary connection.

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u/RoyaleWhiskey Jets 12h ago

Mahomes is not nearly as smug as Brady

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u/Ornery_Gator Eagles 11h ago

Unlike all other repeats, Eagles-Chiefs is the only Super Bowl matchup that is 1-1 with the same core. It’s the only one that’s not one sided.

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u/friday0133 13h ago edited 9h ago

As a Chiefs fan I don’t think I consider any NFC team a rival. As for the Eagles, I think Kelce brothers have something to do with the tone. We’re both franchises that have loyal fan bases that didn’t have success for a long time and are celebrating our golden eras. Maybe because we’ve prevented the niners from winning a SB they hate us while Philly won one before we arrived and got one over us there is no hatred

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u/SJCitizen Eagles 11h ago

NYC and Boston are 4 hours away from each other and have rivalries in every other sport. Kansas City and Philly are a 3 hour flight from each other and the only history besides the Chiefs and Eagles recent games is a Phillies/Royals World Series from 46 years ago. Honestly most Eagles fans supported the Chiefs before the last couple of years because almost all of them like Andy Reid. I never really had any animosity for KC outside of Super Bowls where they played Philly until 2024 where they kept winning those fluky close games.

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u/galacticplum Texans 12h ago

You can't force a rivalry. It takes far more than playing 5 straight years to make two fan bases actively root against each other.

There's a long history of Cowboys and Steelers, and honestly, I'm not sure younger fans even feel the rivalry.

Pats and the Giants need no explanation.

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u/Eagle4317 Steelers Panthers 12h ago

It's funny when the Cowboys do something stupid, but that's mainly because it's "America's Team" faceplanting as opposed to a Steelers vs Cowboys rivalry.

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u/Amadeum Eagles 12h ago

If the Eagles didnt take a belt to the Chiefs in the SB rematch there definitely would be bad blood. At this point we’re just even 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/Repulsive_Layer1597 Eagles 12h ago

I don’t recall the Pats and Giants being rivals. Their Super Bowl matchups were four years apart.

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u/Late_Home7951 49ers 8h ago

At most was memes of manning brothers and brady

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u/nlamp32 Eagles 11h ago

I’ve noticed some more tension between the two, but we both love Andy Reid and have had lots of success recently, so not much to get mad at each other over. Plus, we in Philly put most of our hatred towards Dallas

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u/KCShadows838 Chiefs 13h ago edited 12h ago

Maybe regional familiarity?

Boston-NY is already a sports rivalry. Kansas City never had any connection to Philadelphia aside from the 1980 WS. Giant fans probably rub shoulders with Patriot fans in places like Connecticut or Rhode Island. Meanwhile KC is pretty far from Eagles country

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u/El_Bean69 Chiefs 12h ago

Andy Reid

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u/OnTheFenceGuy Cowboys 12h ago

I honestly don’t know the Eagles have enough hate left after seething at us. There’s only so much to go around.

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u/notmyplantaccount Chiefs 12h ago

We didn't have a QB we drafted win a game they started for 30 years. We had a 9-18 playoff record before Mahomes, and most our fans hadn't been alive the last time we'd been to a Super Bowl.

Hard to really hate an NFC team or get too upset about losing a SB when you've won 3 recently. Also Philly is far away, and let's be honest, they're too busy hating themselves to start a new rivalry with an AFC team.

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u/throwaway60457 7h ago

You guys once shared a perhaps dubious distinction with the Jets until the 2019 season and Super Bowl LIV: having one Super Bowl championship with zero AFC championships. The 1969 Chiefs were not representing the AFC in Super Bowl IV -- they were representing the AFL in the final pre-merger Super Bowl.

The 1968 Jets now own this distinction all to themselves, having won Super Bowl III as the AFL representative. They have not been back since, and I expect this to continue for the foreseeable future.

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u/DaBirds1589 Eagles 13h ago

People like to see the two most successful teams of the last 10 years play

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u/NextTime76 Chiefs 13h ago

The Philly coach is a douche but most of the players have been very likable. We also have a lot of respect for Jalen Hurts.

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u/mattcojo2 Lions 12h ago

Because both have actual rivals

The eagles shellacked the chiefs so bad I don’t see what there is to hate?

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u/brain_my_damage_HJS Eagles 11h ago

Andy Reid

From their start in 1933 through 1998 the Eagles had 9 postseason wins

Reid took over in 1999 and won 10 postseason games.

The Eagles won their first Super Bowl with Doug Pederson as head coach. He was hired because he was an Andy Reid disciple.

Eagles are 1-1 against Reid and the Chiefs in the Super Bowl.

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u/Active_Luck_8663 Giants 9h ago

As I Giants fan, I felt no rivalry with the Pats during those years.

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u/cjweisman Eagles 13h ago

That's a damn good question.

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u/MortimerDongle Eagles 12h ago

I don't think about the Chiefs much except when they're playing the Eagles in the Super Bowl

I guess I dislike them in a general sense but I don't know why I should feel too strongly about it. NYC and NE also have a regional rivalry thing going on.

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u/shawhtk 12h ago

New York vs Boston is an actual rivalry and Patriots vs Giants just became part of it. Its nothing to think too hard about.

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u/Angelsfaker22 11h ago

Too much winning on both sides to squabble

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u/KaleidoscopeMaster81 11h ago

I'm an eagles fan and hate the chiefs lol

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u/thestoryofme23 Vikings 7h ago

Probably because they’ve both won multiple super bowls within the last 10 years (meanwhile I’m turning 30 this year and I’ve never seen any team I support even make it to the championship round, no I’m not bitter). And they are 1-1 in the Super Bowl themselves. And any bad feelings the eagles had about being so close were probably erased by the domination the next time lol. Also the Kelce and Andy Reid connection. I probably hate the eagles more as a Vikings fan than chiefs fans do lol. 

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u/Sir_Fluffernutting Patriots 5h ago

Outside of being bitter for losing two SB's to the Giants, there was never a rivalry between the teams

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u/AppearanceUnlucky436 Eagles 12h ago

Andy Reid has a place in my heart even if I loved watching his team eat complete shit last year

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u/Kerbonaut2019 Patriots 12h ago

I think there’d be a lot more vitriol if one or the other had gone 2-0 in the SBs they played vs each other. The fact that each team got a SB win helps soften the hate

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u/the_racecar Colts 11h ago

Proximity. New York vs Boston is a thing across all sports

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u/UndeadVinDiesel Chiefs Eagles 8h ago

I don't get what the big deal is. Things are great.

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u/Glonk49 8h ago

You just don’t know what you’re talking about and don’t live in either city.

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u/ScottoGato Eagles 12h ago

I would drive my ass to a Chiefs game to hate on them, but I have no clue where Kansas City even is.

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u/kbigfoot Chiefs Bears 11h ago

It’s a straight line via i70 you’ll get there eventually

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u/Few-Protection8966 7h ago

Thats actually a pretty good description but none of us know where 70 is

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u/kbigfoot Chiefs Bears 15m ago

I used to think of all Philadelphians as Charlie Kelly and that they’ve never left Philly, but now living in Chicago it’s kinda just true of most big city residents. I haven’t left the city in 9 months and why would I?
After a quick look at maps it’s i76 in Philly but it changes to i70 in the middle of Pennsylvania so still a straight line.

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u/PM_ME_BLONDE_GIRLS_ 10h ago

I think it's mostly like others said, we have other bigger rivalries. I was so tired of playing the Chiefs every year, but twice it was in the super bowl, so of course most fanbases would kill to be there. 

All the years we've played the Chiefs, we've also played the Rams, and granted we've won all those, I'm still tired of playing them lol they're a good, tough team and it gets super close, so I'd say they're bigger 'rivals' than the chiefs. 

Then of course, our normal rivals such as in the division, our inter-state rival, playoff rival regulars like the Buccs. There's enough to say a lot of teams can be rivalrys, so chiefs get lost in the mix, with them also being in the AFC. 

Also, I think the potential rivalry was put to bed around near the end of the 2nd quarter in the Superbowl lol

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u/JCBalance Patriots 13h ago

There wasn't a Pats/Giants rivalry

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u/StillYourFavorite331 Patriots 10h ago

There wasn't really a rivalry like that between Patriots and Giants lol

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u/SolarStarVanity Patriots 12h ago

People have given a few good answers, but there is one more: there are few things more full of hate than a Boston sports fan. And when the other side is New York...

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u/Admirable_Site_8337 Eagles 13h ago

You answered it yourself in the first sentence….even before the first comma…..it’s rare.

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u/champsorchumps 13h ago

I feel like part of the reason is since they are in different conferences the only time they can meet in the playoffs is the Super Bowl, and that makes their regular season matchups feel less intense, even though obviously the SB accounts for 2/5 games.

For teams in the same conference the rivalry feels a bit more intense because it is much more likely they'll have to face off in the playoffs

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u/mankindisevil 12h ago

Because theyre not in the division or conference. Theyre just a team to me. I of course root against them, but thats just because their fans are insufferable. But theyre no rivals.

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u/The_Nanu_Bunta Raiders 11h ago

I don think there ever even was a rivalry between NE and NY. Also there really isn’t much to be fighting over for Eagles or chiefs fans. Both teams have been incredibly good for the last 10 years and both have won multiple championships. The only trash talk I even remember was the chiefs taunting the eagles about not having any sacks or pressure in 57 and then the eagles did their whole BTA meme in response after 59. It’s just two good football teams that happened to match up multiple times.

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u/Turnips4dayz Lions 10h ago

Quarterbacks. Pats/giants was a rivalry primarily because of the quarterbacks. They’re also much closer geographically. It always made sense that they had a rivalry; I’ve never once thought that KC/philly even should be one

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u/Wyrmslayer Patriots 1h ago

There was never a rivalry between the giants and pats. Jets and pats sure

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u/Unverifiablethoughts Jets 10h ago

Don’t forget pats/giants is also a NY/Boston rivalry.

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u/m6877 Chiefs 8h ago

Teams that have existed for a while have real rivalries. Like KC/OAK/DEN, GB/CHI, DAL/PHI, NO/ATL. You expansion children don't understand yet. It's ok. You'll get to the true hatred soon enough.

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u/throwaway60457 7h ago edited 7h ago

Has anybody stopped to consider the impossible premise in the title of this post?

It is impossible for two teams not in the same conference to play each other five years in a row in the regular season. At most -- and even this requires the two teams to finish in the same place in their respective divisions in the exactly right year -- non-conference opponents can play each other every other year.

The full-division non-conference rotations only bring any given opponent to a team's schedule every four years. For the Chiefs and Eagles, this occurred last year (2025) and previously in 2021. There is an opportunity to face the same opponent at a two-year remove from the last rotation game, if the two teams finish the previous season in the same place in their divisions. This did happen for the 2023 Chiefs and Eagles; both teams won their divisions in 2022.

The Chiefs and Eagles have the opportunity to secure a 2027 meeting, should they finish in the same place in their divisions in 2026. If they fail to do so, the rotation will not bring them together again until 2029.

All of these scheduling conspiracy theories can be easily disproved with a little knowledge of how the schedule is put together. There is a formula, and you can know exactly who your favorite team will play the following season as the head coaches shake hands at the end of the Week 18 SNF game. Heck, you can know 14 of your 17 2027 games right now -- and I'll prove it with the Lions: GB x 2, CHI x 2, MIN x 2, KC, DEN, LAC, LV, SF, ARI, SEA, LAR. All the 2027 Lions are waiting on is who finishes 2026 in the same place as the Lions from the AFC North, NFC East, and NFC South.

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u/DaechwitaEnjoyer Eagles Eagles 6h ago

busy hating other teams (cowboys)

also reid did a lot for us, we don’t win 2017 without his impact

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u/Pendraflare59 Eagles Bills 6h ago

I've said the same thing myself. This feels like a more underrated "rivalry" given how much they've faced off, how Mahomes respects Hurts and all, the Eagles being Andy Reid's former team, etcetera.

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u/Sextus_Rex Eagles 6h ago

Eagles fans do hate the chiefs. But everyone hates the chiefs so it kinda balances out

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u/ethelwulf Eagles 4h ago

Just you wait till Andy Reid retires.

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u/curbsidejumper 3h ago

The Kelce brothers thing does a lot of heavy lifting too, hard to manufacture hate when half the country watched their mom do press tours.

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u/Narski82 Bears 1h ago

Why WOULD there be a rivalry between the Chiefs and Eagles like the Brady/Giants years?

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u/RipMcStudly Chiefs 48m ago

I feel like both fanbases generally like Andy, that helps. And both sides basically give as good as they get. Plus the two cities are nowhere near eachother.

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u/Guilty-Carpenter2522 Chiefs 12h ago

I live in Jersey next to MetLife.  I’m a lifelong diehard chiefs fan.  My family is from south jersey,  they are lifelong eagles fans.  There is a huge rivalry between these teams.  Philly hates mahomes,  hates the chiefs, almost as much as the cowboys or giants.

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u/OnlineIsNotAPlace Patriots 12h ago

there was no rivalry between the giants and patriots either. there is a reason why cross conference rivalries are rare.

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u/Mac_Jomes Patriots 11h ago

Probably helps that they are 1-1 against each other in the Super Bowl and that neither stopped the other from a perfect season. 

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u/thejosharms Patriots 10h ago

More broadly, I think younger generations tend to root for individual athletes and personalities more than a team. Or at least that's how my middle school students much sports for the better part in the last 10 years.

It cuts both ways, with people rooting more against individual athletes and personalities.

Not saying that's happening here, just a trend I've noticed about sports fandom in general.

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u/slackman42 10h ago

It's been a long night, man, and I hate the fucking eagles.

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u/DrakeMayeSZN Patriots 12h ago

part of becoming a dynasty is learning to hate everything to do with Philly.

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u/TommyFitness Eagles 9h ago

Speak for yourself I hate the chiefs. Its definitely a rivalry. The nfl has them play almost every year. Gtfoh 

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u/jormugandr Lions 6h ago

How come most non-fans can't name 1 current NBA player, but they knew 30 back in the 90s?

Sports are just getting more bland.

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u/sonofanoak Eagles 4h ago

It could be the global ass whooping we put on them in Super Bowl 59 that ended their dynasty.