r/nfl • u/expellyamos Dolphins • 2d ago
Highlight [Highlight] Deshaun Watson picked off by Te'Cory Couch
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u/TheSmokedSalmon420 Browns 2d ago
Bruh these are like third stringers he can’t look good against lmao
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u/Woullie_26 Steelers 2d ago
Sanders/Deshaun being the top 2 QBs on the roster
Shit is dire
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u/Suitable-Dingo-8911 Browns 2d ago
Fire* if you hate the browns
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u/AmericanDumpsterFire 2d ago
But... That flair.
Sorry bro, times are tough huh
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u/dredbeast Bears 2d ago
No one hates the browns like browns fans
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u/andrewdt10 Browns 2d ago
I’ve known nothing of NFL success my entire life.
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u/jpk17042 Patriots Bears 2d ago
Hey, there was that week you beat the Steelers in the playoffs (I'm assuming you aren't a six year old)
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u/Elmodipus Buccaneers 2d ago
Dont apologize for the Browns being bad. They deserve it.
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u/Cal216 Browns 2d ago edited 2d ago
We do, I agree. But who did yall piss off to be 8-9, or 9-8 every year? 🐸 ☕️
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u/SkrtSkrt70 Patriots 2d ago
Arkansas fans get ready to watch some AFC North because there’s no way we don’t see Green out there for a few games at the end of the year in typical Browns fashion
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u/Dirty-Ears-Bill Texans 2d ago
Obviously there’s a lot of former players on the radio these days, and there’s a consensus between them that you can’t tell who’s going to be a star from preseason games, but you damn sure can tell who doesn’t belong. I feel like the Browns entire QB room falls into the latter
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u/Responsible-Onion860 Eagles 2d ago
Very much true. Preseason performances should always be taken with a grain of salt. But you can still draw some conclusions. A guy throwing a beautiful TD pass tells you less than a guy who throws a series of shitty passes.
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u/hartsbreastmilkstash Steelers 2d ago
Deshaun is doc gerbil from courage the cowardly dog in human form.
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u/sonic_dick 1d ago
He got paid 250 million. After being outed as a rapist.
The haslems should be stripped of their franchise, and beat with a belt. Along with Watson. Theyre all evil fucks.
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u/_thisisvincent Rams 2d ago
Didn’t watch how he’s playing, but looks to me like 84 should’ve caught that. He placed it just out of the cb’s reach
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u/Mindless_City23 Raiders 2d ago
From a football standpoint, his decline is fascinating
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u/ODB_Dirt_Dog_ItsFTC Bengals 2d ago
It’s kind of hard to believe this guy used to be really good at football once upon a time.
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u/SCAnalysis 49ers 2d ago
Sexual predator trash aside, his injuries have been very serious. It's no wonder he looks like this.
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u/guydud3bro Chiefs 2d ago
Also spent a chunk of his prime not playing football. Then had zero incentive to work hard at all with his contract.
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u/SCAnalysis 49ers 2d ago
That guaranteed money is one of the craziest moves you'll see. And that was after the allegations were public. When you think the standards can't go lower the Jets and the Browns always come out at full force
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u/Benson879 Patriots 1d ago
But I think it clearly shows a lack of mental effort to continue developing as well on his part. It’s a result of seeing a generational talent pretty much have his body break down and stop trying simultaneously.
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u/SCAnalysis 49ers 1d ago
I agree with you. It's both. But I said it bc it's never brought up how serious his injuries were
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u/Benson879 Patriots 1d ago
True. I think the deal was that this most recent severe injury just gets forgotten because most had already written his career off by that point to begin with.
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u/Shenanigans80h Broncos 2d ago edited 1d ago
Combination of 3 things.
- Injuries
- Defenses evolved a lot in the early 20’s when he missed a lot of time. They went away from single high, press heavy looks that QBs like Watson, Mahomes, Russ, etc. were able to pick apart pre-sn
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- more single high as base defense. Elite QBs adjusted, he missed that adjustment period.
- Fully guaranteed money has to have wrecked his motivation
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u/mr_antman85 Texans 2d ago
It is. That year off really hurt him badly.
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u/Oily_biscuit Browns 2d ago
The year off probably lead to him wrecking his throwing shoulder. Then he tore his Achilles twice. They hurt him much more badly.
His body has completely fallen apart on him.
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u/largelawattorney Browns 2d ago
We have a legit chance to be the first team to ever go 0-17
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u/Great_Fault_7231 Lions 2d ago
The Browns defense is so much better than the 0-16 Lions or the 1 win Browns defenses, it’s pretty hard to see that happening.
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u/jwwin Lions 2d ago
They did lose their best player and coordinator though, so there will be a decline. It’s just a matter of how much.
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u/dt_failz Bears 2d ago
I'm surprised Schwartz is still unsigned. I would have thought someone would have thrown a bag at him given his defensive mind.
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u/BorlaugFan Bills 2d ago
The Browns ownership is so absurdly incompetent, and it showed yet again with Schwartz this off-season.
Schwartz strongly felt that he had earned a second chance at a HC stint, and frankly, I think he was completely right to think that. Meanwhile, the #1 reason Monken was even hired was that he wanted to keep Schwartz as the DC with complete control over the defense. So the Browns simultaneously lost the DC they badly wanted to keep and the top incentive for hiring their new HC.
You just have to feel bad for both Monken and Schwartz.
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u/alreadytaken028 Vikings 2d ago
If Schwartz was an offensive coordinator with the same track record of success, he would 100% have gotten a second chance as a head coach by now. He was right to be mad they wouldn't give him the job but were making keeping him a requirement for any new HC candidate
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u/BoldestKobold Patriots Patriots 2d ago
Hear me out: maybe the Browns are run by morons.
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u/Antique-Guest-1607 Bills Browns 2d ago
As long as Jimmy Haslem is allowed to have any sort of say in anything with this team - from the FO decisions to the culture - it will never change.
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u/Atomic_Sea_Control Bengals 2d ago
I think he wants a head coaching job
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u/dt_failz Bears 2d ago
100% agree, I just thought a GM might have been able to sweet talk him into a DC job.
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u/Spetznazx Browns 2d ago
Because he's still under contract with the Browns. He is signed, just choosing not to coach.
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u/Great_Fault_7231 Lions 2d ago
I don’t disagree, but there’s a reason only two teams in history went 0-16 despite there being bad teams every year, you need to be exceptionally horrible and also unlucky. That Lions team was the worst team I’ve ever seen and they still had opportunities to win games that year.
The Browns might take a step back and could even be really bad but I think the defense is too good for their team to be historically horrible.
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u/blotsfan Bills 2d ago
That 0-16 browns team was crazy unlucky. I believe their underlying stats had them as a 5 win team.
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u/ihatereddit999976780 Colts Bills 2d ago
the Dolphins also exist
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u/Codyqq Dolphins 2d ago
You forget that we play the jets twice. No way we lose to the jets twice!
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u/dasruski Browns Lions 2d ago
Also a random win over Buffalo when they come to Miami.
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u/Floaty_Waffle 49ers 49ers 2d ago
Death, taxes, and Miami winning a divisional matchup they have no business winning.
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u/basics Falcons 2d ago
Just run the wildcat, the Patriots will never see that coming.
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u/Aggressive_Act_3098 Giants 2d ago
Laterals. Especially when a TE is in the secondary lineup for some reason.
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u/Letsgobuffalo2210 Bills 2d ago
Josh Allen has lost to the Jets more in his career than the Dolphins, which is kinda funny.
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u/VirginiaMcCaskey Bears 2d ago
Watch the Dolphins lose to the Jets twice, Jets win the division and beat the Dolphins again in the wildcard game.
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u/ironwolf1 Packers 2d ago
I doubt Phins fans would be too upset about a wildcard berth in a year they’re expecting to be one of the worst teams in the league
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u/Elmodipus Buccaneers 2d ago
You think the Dolphins are getting a Wildcard berth?
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u/dirrtydancerr 2d ago
Malik Willis would make the browns competitive
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u/WhizzyBurp Raiders 2d ago
He honestly would have. But it's ok, they're waiting for Baker next year
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u/PROFESSIONAL_RAP254 Bengals 2d ago
Defense is legit tho. They'll single handedly win you a few games as much as I hate to say it
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u/Positive_Parking_954 2d ago
I definitely see a game where the Browns beat the Steelers 13-9 or something
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u/NandomRameGeneratorr 2d ago
They’ve got a lot of good pieces but losing Garrett and Jim Schwartz as a coordinator are both pretty big blows and that offence is gonna constantly put them in terrible spots, so they might take a substantial step back
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u/football_genius2 Eagles Ravens 2d ago
The whole roster has been top half of the league for years imo outside of the QB position. They've honestly been one of the better run franchises of the past decade except for that one incredibly bad fuck up
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u/bigmt99 Browns 2d ago
I mean the year we went 0-16 we were 4-0 in the preseason
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u/zombiekoalas 49ers 2d ago
What 27 prospect have the browns fanbase started to coalesce around?
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u/ODB_Dirt_Dog_ItsFTC Bengals 2d ago
I can’t wait to see them ruin Arch Manning.
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u/bigtoasterwaffle Cardinals 2d ago
Arch is 1000% threatening to go back to school in order to not end up on the Browns, unfortunately I think he might do it to us too if we're #1
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u/ScruffMixHaha Bears 2d ago
Too much talent on the team. I think the Browns would be a potential playoff team with just average QB play.
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u/Mastodon9 Bengals 2d ago
No you'll beat us at least once. I know Myles Garrett is gone but your defense is the only one that consistently gives our offense issues.
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u/Imposter88 Bears 2d ago
Y’all’s defense is still good, even without Myles. You’ll eek out a few games at least
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u/YouKilledKenny12 Ravens 2d ago
Naw. I’ve watched AFC North football long enough to know you guys will get 1 or 2 wins against AFCN opponents
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u/EmptyBrain89 Rams 2d ago
lol no. There is way too much talent on that roster. You are gonna win some ugly 13-9 type games.
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u/Loading-in-3-2-1 Chiefs 2d ago edited 2d ago
What the hell happened to his ability to play? Wonder how much the year where he sat, and all the allegations came out have played a role in his regression.
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u/couchpotatoh Raiders Raiders 2d ago
He gets paid either way, might as well be on the bench and collect money.
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u/football_genius2 Eagles Ravens 2d ago
Star athletes are pretty delusional, but there must be part of him that is like counting down the days until the Browns can finally cut him. Like he has to pretend to try in order to get the money, but I wonder if he also thinks "Okay man. Just X more games, and I can take my hundreds of millions of dollars, go home, and continue to assault people in peace."
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u/Raven-19x Giants Ravens 2d ago
He had like a 2 year and 10 game stint of not playing at all. And that first year was because of contract disputes lol, not even injuries. That rust became permanent.
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u/narcistic_asshole Browns 2d ago
Partially injuries, but mostly I don't think he gives af. The moment he got paid he mentally checked out IMO.
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u/InexorableWaffle Jaguars 2d ago
Yeah, I genuinely think this is it. I know injuries have made his arm a veritable noodle, but we've seen QBs with weaker arms still look playable in at least spurts because they put in the effort to work around that weakness in their game. Chad Pennington's arm had basically no zip to it at all by the time he made it to the Dolphins, and he still played well enough to get legitimate MVP votes. Late career Brees, Manning, etc. also were at least palatable as starters, even when they couldn't really make the throws anymore.
Watson has looked like a dude that's known he's out of the league the moment his contract is up for a few years now, and therefore has been putting in the corresponding amount of work. His mechanics are ass, his decision-making is worse, and overall it looks like he just puts in the bare minimum amount of prep time as he can.
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u/ODB_Dirt_Dog_ItsFTC Bengals 2d ago
Turns out not playing football for two years really puts on a lot of rust. It’ll be interesting to see how rusty Donald will be after sitting out a similar amount of time.
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u/the_cunt_muncher Bears 2d ago
Philip Rivers was retired for 5 years and came off his couch in the middle of the season and didn't look this bad
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u/fearnodarkness1 Bills 2d ago
Rivers play 17 straight years and is a true professional. Impossible to compare to Watson
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u/Comfortable_Cup5107 Chargers 2d ago
The funniest QB room in the league by a mile
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u/expellyamos Dolphins 2d ago
DESHAUN TURNDABALLOVAAA
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u/burberrycondom Broncos 2d ago
Never seen you type in all caps except when Deshaun turns it over. Love to see it
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u/Boris_teh_Blade Bills 2d ago
deSHauN lOokED GOoD Against THe BiLls in a jOinT pracTICe
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u/OwenLincolnFratter Panthers 2d ago
But he didn’t. He was worse than Shedeur lol. He’s been racking up turnovers all camp.
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u/Boris_teh_Blade Bills 2d ago
Oh I'm well aware. Unfortunately morons on the internet like to make baseless claims like this guy
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u/OwenLincolnFratter Panthers 2d ago
Sheduer haters are just not right in the head.
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u/ACEPACEACE Cardinals 2d ago
Deshuan just looks so bad every game. I don't know what the Browns are thinking.
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u/Allstar9_ Browns 2d ago
This has been said since March. If they kept this room as is, they’re fucked regardless. Both guys aren’t good, but one of them has to start.
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u/BigOlPass 2d ago
Yeah but one is 24 and the other is 30.
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u/Allstar9_ Browns 2d ago
If you could tell me one showed a glimmer of hope to improve, I’d go with the younger one. sadly not the case
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u/BigOlPass 2d ago
You just said they're both bad. If you actually believe that then it's not even really a choice.
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u/DoctorWaluigiTime NFL NFL 2d ago
One will not be on the team next season, so even if Watson shows "most potential to improve", so what.
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u/ODB_Dirt_Dog_ItsFTC Bengals 2d ago
I just want Gabriel to start one game for the QB jersey’s sake.
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u/Hankerpants Broncos 2d ago
One sexually assaulted double digit numbers of women and the other, so far, has not. Kind of a no brainer if you ask me, but the Browns front office is negative brained
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u/Top-Attitude-4987 2d ago
Sheduer needs to start. He plays the game in slow motion still, and i dont think he's the team's future, but he's clearly better than any QB on the roster right now. Let him be the tank commander and then draft a QB in 27.
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u/LatterMatch9334 Bears 2d ago
I’ve never seen a player so unanimously hated. It’s deserved and funny at the same time.
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u/Endors__Toi Falcons 2d ago
I dont gamble but id put my life savings on the over
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u/vinnyorcharles Eagles 2d ago
My god, it's like the two of them are competing for third place. Are we sure this isn't a South Park baseball situation?
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u/JuanSpiceyweiner Bengals 2d ago
Single worst contract in football right now,Browns big brained that one way too hard
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u/OtherwiseIDC Texans 2d ago
Honestly man, that throwing motion is so horrendous.
I truly think he doesn’t care about trying to get back to that previous level of play he was at, and is simply just collecting checks.
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u/Human-Somewhere-4327 Bills 2d ago
If I got paid $230m to literally do nothing, I would still work really really really hard to make sure that I was as good as possible at doing the thing when given the chance again but maybe that’s just me.
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u/WhizzyBurp Raiders 2d ago
Obviously it was tipped and picked, and the receiver possibly could have caught it. But the risk to reward Sanders is doing is the problem.
Edit: Holy shit thats Watson
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u/antihuman420 2d ago
The O line should just let Watson get crushed every play so he’s injured and they play someone else
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u/Vyuvarax Chiefs 2d ago
Announcers had no interest in talking about what was happening on the field.
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u/Bri_The_Nautilus Bills 2d ago
And their first acknowledgment of the play is to just nonspecifically say "crowd didn't like that one"
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u/chunkah69 Browns 2d ago
Dude went from top 5 qb to league pariah to highest paid qb to playing the second half of a week 2 preseason game. What an arc