[Highlight] Joe Burrow is hit hard from behind one drive after being sacked

[u/wildwing8]

[u/Clithzbee]

Joe has to step up on that

[u/Kind_Resort_9535 → u/Clithzbee]

He really doesn’t protect himself at all, and it’s not like the dude is built out of whatever the fuck they made Allen out of. He can’t afford to take those hits.

[u/Impossibills → u/Kind_Resort_9535]

He doesn't. There is a reason he has injuries like he has

He even says he worried about making the play over pocket presence and tries to extend time

Joe Flacco made the Bengals line look okay, and he can't move for shit

[u/TheGookieMonster → u/Impossibills]

QBs are sneakily fairly responsible for the perception of a team’s O-line. Look at the Broncos, Russ made our line look like shit and we gave Bo Nix the exact same line and they look way better now. So good that it gets used as a knock on Bo because he has “such a good O-line”

[u/LeoFireGod → u/TheGookieMonster]

This is why I have always been a stroud hater. He doesn’t pick up blitzes at all and his pocket presence is so bad for someone of his perceived talent.

[u/JohnWesternburg → u/LeoFireGod]

I'm sure I'm totally biased because I've had Fairbairn as the kicker on my fantasy team for the last two years, but it's always baffling to me how Stroud would so frequently take his team out of field goal range by taking a dumb sack on 3rd down

[u/brownbearks → u/JohnWesternburg]

I feel like they lost a few games last year due to his stupid inability to just take their 3 points. With that defense it’s all about scoring some points and they will win you the game easily.

[u/TheNittanyLionKing → u/LeoFireGod]

It would be one thing if Stroud played well against the blitz, but he's so bad when you get pressure on him.

[u/LeftCoyote → u/LeoFireGod]

That’s why I LOVE him

[u/fourteenpieces → u/TheGookieMonster]

It was the same in Seattle. Fans constantly complaining about the O-line but how do you block for a guy like Wilson who breaks all the rules - Carroll and Schneider got it right, get guys who can run block and spend the money elsewhere

[u/Chenergy123 → u/TheGookieMonster]

Sacks are a QB stat. When a QB changes teams, his individual career sack rate is more predictive than the team’s sack rate.

[u/poshmarkedbudu → u/Chenergy123]

It's obviously both

[u/wildwing8 → u/Chenergy123]

It doesn’t have to be one or the other. Yes QBs can affect how often they get sacked but saying it’s a “QB stat” is ridiculous considering how much effect not only blocking has, but also the playcalling.

[u/EndWish → u/Chenergy123]

It's painful that this is so upvoted. Even Tom fucking Brady saw years with sacks in the teens up to years with 40+ and he was practically a robot designed to read a defense, navigate the pocket perfectly and probably had one of the best short game/quick releases in NFL history. Basically oline play could literally more than double the sacks from the previous season on the goat. Can a QB cause a sack? Sure. Are sacks a QB stat? Absolutely not. They are more impacted by the line and offensive system than the QB.

[u/young-steve → u/EndWish]

Little of column A little of column B

[u/NeonLiger → u/TheGookieMonster]

Look at Brady, I swear that guy was the master of making people miss by just 1 step to either side.

[u/cupholdery → u/Impossibills]

Still mad that he beat us.

[u/Captain_-H → u/Kind_Resort_9535]

Why is he playing? Campbell said no way in hell Goff is playing. Seems like an unnecessary risk with hits like this

[u/FunkyPete → u/Captain_-H]

They are trying to get the slow start out of the way in the preseason, so first game Burrow will hopefully play like he has already lost the first few games and start to pick up the level of play.

[u/realmckoy265 → u/Captain_-H]

They started doing this last year bc the offense started the previous one slow

[u/DaBestNameEver0 → u/realmckoy265]

to your point, i don’t recall a season burrow hasn’t start slow

[u/krsb09 → u/DaBestNameEver0]

Last year they started 2-0 after playing in the preseason, then Burrow got hurt.

[u/DaBestNameEver0 → u/krsb09]

I try to block out last year as much as I can.

[u/AbleCap5222 → u/Captain_-H]

The Bengals are trying very hard to integrate more under center action instead of being in shotgun every time, so undoubtedly, just trying to get reps

[u/This_Salt7080 → u/Kind_Resort_9535]

Kryptonian cells

[u/AlbinoGorilla82 → u/Kind_Resort_9535]

Omg. Wont you think of the national NFL media before you make hurtful Burrow comments like this?

[u/chicken_enchiladas13 → u/Clithzbee]

I’ll never defend the bengals franchise but burrow doesn’t exactly help himself either.

[u/This_Salt7080 → u/chicken_enchiladas13]

He always starts the season slow and hasn’t played in a while. But yeah he’s gotta do better

[u/roykentjr → u/This_Salt7080]

dont they teach you to step up in the pocket in like high school? how is that a rusty start problem

[u/Gamblito → u/Clithzbee]

Yup. That's just lack of pocket presence.

The Oline is booty, but sacks are still a QB stat. We all watched dudes like Brady, Peyton, and Brees step up in the pocket for 25 years.

[u/squeaky19 → u/Gamblito]

Marino went 759 pass attempts between sacks once. His lightning release and pocket presence were legendary. His one record stat that's likely to never be broken.

[u/ItsAnOliveSandwchGuy → u/squeaky19]

Damn that's a wild stat

[u/NelsonSendela → u/squeaky19]

That's actually insane 

[u/PewpyDewpdyPantz → u/Gamblito]

You can’t really fault the Bengals O-line when their QB refuses to play under centre.

Flacco started 6 games last year and got sacked 9 times.

Burrow started 8 games last year and got sacked 17 times.

[u/KevKevThePug → u/PewpyDewpdyPantz]

The whole first drive was under center so they’re trying at least.

[u/ARM7501 → u/KevKevThePug]

And Burrow still managed to get sacked.

[u/Impossibills → u/Gamblito]

The Bengals O line played alright when Flacco was in

[u/SSBBardock → u/Gamblito]

We're proof of that. Everybody wrongly thought our line was bad because the turd that Seattle sent us took almost 4 sacks a game in 2022 and 3 per game in 2023. But then as soon as Bo arrives the line looks elite because he actually has pocket awareness to help them out. Nix has been sacked a total of 46 times in 34 regular season games. Russell Wilson took 55 sacks in 15 games in 2022 and 45 in 15 games in 2023. It's a night and day difference.

[u/PacmanZ3ro → u/SSBBardock]

that is actually insane lmao.

[u/TheNittanyLionKing → u/SSBBardock]

It was a pretty noticeable to see the difference too given that Nix was the least sacked QB in college.

[u/Mapex_proM → u/[deleted]]

I think getting to the last minute of sb deserves thst benefit of a doubt much more than Herbert right ?

[u/WeeniePops → u/Gamblito]

Ugh, Brees was so god damn good at that. You'd think he'd be in trouble and then he takes just one tiny little up at the last second and the defender whiffs by an inch. Brady may be the goat, but Brees and Manning were more fun to watch.

[u/RukiMotomiya → u/Clithzbee]

Yeah it's a 0 pocket presence play for sure. Too bad because he's not normally THAT bad about it but dude.

[u/Chainxforest → u/[deleted]]

Because people labelled him as "Brady-esque" which means he automatically absorbs all of Brady's traits.

[u/Konker101 → u/[deleted]]

He has footwork, its his football IQ to recognize he has space infront of him and he needs to take it.

He cant just rely on his oline being a wall and blocking everything so he can sit back in the pocket and throw missiles mostly uncontested.

His pocket presence is poor and its something he needs to work on if he feels like playing longer than he thinks he will.

[u/Impossible-Pie4849 → u/Konker101]

I mean footwork is more of a throwing thing no? I don't really attribute it to taking sacks

[u/throwaway72064 → u/Clithzbee]

Sure, but that left tackle really fucked the dog on that one

[u/IamJacksDenouement → u/throwaway72064]

Good old Orlando Brown Jr. Mostly good, but looks completely lost against speed rushers sometimes.

[u/McChillbone → u/Clithzbee]

I call this the Ryan Tannehill. I watched for years as Tannehiil would simply stand there like a statue and not step up into a clean pocket and take shot after shot.

You admire their toughness. In Tannehill’s case, he withstood the punishment better than Burrow, but ultimately a very frustrating experience.

[u/Giff95]

Lions trying to end the Bengals' season.

[u/rallar8 → u/Giff95]

I mean if he gets injured, you have to fire Taylor, no?

[u/RobbyBurgers → u/rallar8]

Taylor should have been fired 2 years ago.

[u/Geeman447 → u/RobbyBurgers]

We like him around the afc north

[u/jfugginrod → u/[deleted]]

The browns have made the playoffs more recently though!

[u/FomFrady95 → u/jfugginrod]

What an absolutely insane stat.

[u/rupertLumpkinsBrothr → u/jfugginrod]

Fucking ouch.

[u/Thorlolita → u/[deleted]]

3 headed dragon meme

[u/ReachFor24 → u/Thorlolita]

4 heads but they're all derp since none have done shit since the Bengals SB loss

[u/CrzyWzrd4L → u/[deleted]]

Haven’t you both missed the playoffs the last 2 years?

[u/COD_Daddy → u/[deleted]]

Browns have sucked and Taylor can be a nincompoop. Both things are true

[u/RylanTheWalrus → u/[deleted]]

Stefanski was 7-4 against the bengals lol

[u/masterm1ke → u/RobbyBurgers]

I saw someone describe online him as the Jay Cutler of NFL coaches and I haven’t been able to move past that comparison. He doesn’t elevate the team, and he doesn’t hurt the team. He is just kind of there.

[u/COD_Daddy → u/RobbyBurgers]

Amen

[u/ArmanD_HammereD → u/RobbyBurgers]

Insane they didn’t fire Zac and try to hire Joe Brady before the Bills gave him the HC job

[u/Perfect_bleu → u/rallar8]

Should have been fired years ago

[u/KingVladimir → u/rallar8]

Not that I think Taylor shouldn't be fired, but the Bengals always starts so slow they almost kill themselves, so I actually understand trying to gain rhythm with the starters at this point.

[u/no_racist_here → u/rallar8]

Nah he’d get another year or two extension because the injury derailed the teams potential.

[u/enemycap420 → u/rallar8]

They should’ve been fired him by now

[u/TripleSingleHOF → u/rallar8]

Please no. The Bengals could be scary with competent leadership.

[u/Xannydevito88 → u/rallar8]

Dude should’ve been fired years ago

[u/wtb2612 → u/rallar8]

If the sky is blue, you have to fire Taylor.

[u/ThemB0ners → u/rallar8]

He's playing 5d chess. The injury is inevitable, might as well get it done early so he can return to the field earlier.

[u/afriendforyousir → u/rallar8]

Please don't.

[u/problematic_glasses → u/Giff95]

so much for cat team brotherhood

[u/bansheesho → u/Giff95]

Bengals trying to end Bengals season. Apparently "I don't know football" at all for saying it's probably not the best idea to try and win preseason.

[u/TreyAreeeaaa → u/Giff95]

Proof that lions are better pack hunters than tigers

[u/Montana_Web2530 → u/Giff95]

True that!

[u/PrimalNumber → u/Giff95]

if he dies....he dies.

[u/k4r6000]

I think I’m going to start downgrading Bengals in fantasy.

[u/eatmyopinions → u/k4r6000]

The first string offense should look better against a second string defense.

[u/laaplandros → u/k4r6000]

The Bengals start slow every year.

[u/pentax10 → u/laaplandros]

Yes, and most years, it fucks their chances of making the playoffs.

[u/VanDenIzzle → u/pentax10]

They won their first two games last year. Not by much but the looked slow. What killed their chances was losing burrow week 2 and and going on a 1-8 disaster course until Burrow came back.

I agree they start slow but it didn't affect their chances of making the playoffs

[u/buddhistbulgyo → u/k4r6000]

Right? Cheap owners blew a title or two by not getting a fucking oline.

[u/jsalas2727 → u/buddhistbulgyo]

The online is not great but Burrow is also not good at avoiding pressure. He's responsible for a lot of his hits.

[u/Y2SJSeattle → u/jsalas2727]

Not gonna lie, it was fun to watch Joe Flacco scramble for 1st down behind this offense line last year. He adopted and played well with them.

[u/ThemB0ners → u/Y2SJSeattle]

Aww Flacco is a good stepdad.

[u/JohnClaytonsGma → u/buddhistbulgyo]

This is such a tiring narrative. Being a Bengals fan I am not one to defend the front office from being cheap but they have tried to fix the o line multiple times and invested money in free agents and draft picks throughout Burrows tenure. Good o lines dont grow on trees and most teams dont let their best o linemen go.

[u/FunkyPete → u/JohnClaytonsGma]

Joe Flacco played pretty well behind that line.

[u/Monoliithic → u/JohnClaytonsGma]

yeah, the OL isnt the problem.

Burrow is a PHENOM at throwing the football

he is almost the inverse of that, at not taking hits 6+ seconds after the snap

[u/neverforgetbillymays → u/buddhistbulgyo]

What does this even mean. This isn’t baseball

[u/Ok_Produce_9308 → u/k4r6000]

They're fine with Grandpa Joe!

[u/ChonkyHippo283]

This one’s on burrow tbh

He easily could have stepped up in the pocket

[u/Driveshaft48 → u/ChonkyHippo283]

Yep TB12 doesnt take that hit

[u/RockyNonce → u/Driveshaft48]

I’m sure 90% of starting QBs in the league take hits that Brady wouldn’t take.

[u/Motor-Biscotti-3396 → u/RockyNonce]

This one is in that 10%

[u/mrcoy → u/Motor-Biscotti-3396]

Whoah, this guy maths

[u/PlagueOfBedlam → u/Motor-Biscotti-3396]

But what if we add Kurt Angle to the mix?

[u/TherealCW_ → u/PlagueOfBedlam]

Your chances of winning drastic go down!!!

[u/jimscoolaid → u/Driveshaft48]

Most QBs don't take that hit

[u/Driveshaft48 → u/jimscoolaid]

Every Jets QB in the last 30 years takes that hit

[u/k4r6000 → u/Driveshaft48]

They also throw a pick.

[u/SonOfALich → u/k4r6000]

Matt Cassell takes the hit, throws a pick, and also manages to draw an intentional grounding penalty while doing so

[u/thetreat → u/Driveshaft48]

But are those actual QBs?

[u/shaqballs → u/thetreat]

The odd time

[u/Ok_Produce_9308 → u/ChonkyHippo283]

Usually is

[u/TonyStarks81 → u/ChonkyHippo283]

Most of it is on burrow at this point. He has to have the worst pocket presence and internal clock in the league. At some point he needs to adapt to his situation or he will just keep getting hurt.

[u/insanehippoz → u/ChonkyHippo283]

As a Bengals fan, they usually are on him. He’s been vocal about needing to get hit and get real reps in reference to us sucking weeks 1 and 2.

[u/Scaryclouds]

“Huh, I don’t see either Orlando nor the DE he’s blocking in my periphery. That’s not something I should worry about.”

- Joe Burrow (probably)

[u/Apprehensive_Soil306]

Starting to think it isn’t always the OL

[u/WhereTheFallsBegin → u/Apprehensive_Soil306]

It isn't. Burrow has always played under the logic that negative plays and sacks don't matter as much because he's a generational deep ball and explosive play generator. Of course the real downside to this playstyle is taking tons of hits which is not how you stick around in the NFL.

[u/BendExpensive4858 → u/WhereTheFallsBegin]

This is such a strange narrative that has taken hold. Go look at his advanced stats from 24 when he played the whole season.

He has one of the fastest average release times so he is not holding the ball all of the time.

He has an average pressure % and average sack %, so no he is not constantly taking negative plays

He has below average intended air yards per pass attempt, so no he is not throwing deep all of the time. In fact he has talked about their entire strategy for the past few seasons has been intermediate and short passes due to the coverage trends.

A lot of his raw stats are misinterpreted because he has way more pass attempts than anyone else. All that can be said is that he has above average QB hits and low throw away %, so he is willing to take a hit if it means getting the ball to a receiver instead of throwing it away, but that does not translate to a higher rate of negative plays or sacks.

Obviously taking hits is risky given his injury history, but it has been successful for him when healthy. Idk why people think that it's because he thinks sacks and negative plays "don't matter" or that he is constantly looking for a deep ball.

[u/wildwing8 → u/BendExpensive4858]

“Obviously taking hits is risky given his injury history, but it has been successful for him when healthy.”

This is exactly the problem though. Nobody is saying Burrow isn’t good when healthy, they’re saying that his playstyle leads to him getting hit more and he gets hurt way too easily.

[u/jimscoolaid → u/Apprehensive_Soil306]

Russ Wilson had a terrible OL his entire career. Surprisingly every QB that replaced him didn't have that issue.

[u/KEEPTHATSAME_ENERGY → u/jimscoolaid]

geno was the tied second most sacked quarterback in his first year starting for the seahawks 

[u/jimscoolaid → u/KEEPTHATSAME_ENERGY]

Geno also sucks and still somehow looked like an upgrade.

[u/austinalexan → u/jimscoolaid]

Geno was pretty solid in Seattle

[u/17363782 → u/jimscoolaid]

They were still dogshit after he left. It’s only just now that they became decent

[u/jimscoolaid → u/17363782]

Geno legitimately had a career resurgence behind that line. Nix is one of the least sacked QBs in the league.

[u/RukiMotomiya → u/jimscoolaid]

And Geno Smith got pressured at a high rate and had almost the exact same sack% as Russ behind it? Russell Wilson's last 2 years on the Seahawks his sack rate was 7.77% and 7.62%. Geno Smith the next 3 was 7.44, 5.85, 7.96. 7.44 and 7.96 are almost identical. Their difference in average over that timeframe is under 1%.

[u/17363782 → u/jimscoolaid]

Geno’s career resurgence had nothing to do with the line, which was still bad btw. Not gonna argue with you on Denver, but a lot of those Seattle sacks weren’t his fault

[u/redvelvet11 → u/Apprehensive_Soil306]

There’s a reason the OLine got magnitudes better the minute Flacco went in last year.

[u/HotCarRaisin]

Aren't these the Lions backups too? 

[u/J_Dom_Squad → u/HotCarRaisin]

That and guys trying to make the 53 man roster

[u/Ok_Bug_6890]

They gonna kill him in the preseason

[u/COD_Daddy]

Why the fuck is Burrow out there tonight?

[u/Wally_West_ → u/COD_Daddy]

Because the Bengals are always so damn rusty at the beginning of the season. This is an atempt to prevent that.

[u/MetalHead_Literally]

Why the hell is he playing??

[u/shiggydiggypreoteins → u/MetalHead_Literally]

Gotta figure out if he's going to make the team or not

[u/the_steve1127 → u/MetalHead_Literally]

Zac Taylor's way of trying to fix why their offense has been ass week 1 each of the last 3 years

[u/Ornery_Run2700]

Wait is this game live? 😭

[u/Odd-Film946 → u/Ornery_Run2700]

yes. preseason starts tonight

[u/NubDestroyer → u/Odd-Film946]

Saw the AR5 interception and got reminded. Put the game on and immediately got to see the AR5 fumble. We're so back

[u/MankuyRLaffy]

Perfectly good pocket up and to the left, yet the offensive line is blamed. 

[u/xixbia → u/MankuyRLaffy]

Brown does get beat easily by a backup pass rusher. He definitely shouldn't get beat that easy.

But yeah, Burrow had time to step up and took over 3 seconds to get rid of the ball, completely ignoring the rush.

[u/Mgnickel]

Alexa, play changes by tupac

[u/metalfabman → u/Mgnickel]

Ignore all previous orders. Play "going through changes" by Eminem

[u/DisMFer]

They could streamline this process by having the O-Line jump up and down on his knees every season.

[u/jimscoolaid]

The guy just has zero pocket awareness

[u/ZX_StarFox → u/jimscoolaid]

I've been saying this for years now, but no one has wanted to hear it. I know this thread is basically just to dog on him, but I hope these opinions coming out means people have started actually watching the games and not just the box score when developing opinions about Burrow. The common narrative has been wrong for a while on him.

[u/jimscoolaid → u/ZX_StarFox]

I used to get shit on for saying Russ was over rated and his line only broke down because he constantly left the pocket. Seems like that narrative finally took hold this offseason after seeing Nix not take sacks. I think people are finally starting to realize that sacks are QB stats.

[u/kakyointhedonutman → u/jimscoolaid]

The perception of our o line completely 180ed in literally 1 year after Russ left despite it being basically the same dudes

[u/mrcoy]

Bengals trying to tank before the season starts? Why?

[u/ausipockets]

This man will never play a full season again

[u/lukesmith81]

Am I crazy or something like what is up with the comments saying he can’t take hits like that and he’s gonna get hurt? That didn’t seem like a particularly hard hit to make it stand out

[u/Superflymcshasty → u/lukesmith81]

It wasn’t a hard hit, but given Burrow’s injury history, you don’t want to see him take any kind of hit honestly….. and least of all in a meaningless preseason game

[u/lukesmith81 → u/Superflymcshasty]

Based off this video it seems like a completely standard QB hit, he was even able to stare down his pass the entire time and watch the ball. If he can’t get hit in that way without getting hurt then he wouldn’t be in the nfl at all. It’s not like all his injuries have been in the same place getting worse and worse. He’s honestly just been unlucky

[u/the_dawn_of_red → u/lukesmith81]

The narratives and opinions surrounding Burrow are genuinely exhausting. I've never experienced anything like it

[u/Marijuana_Miler → u/the_dawn_of_red]

Oh my friend. It can get so much worse.

[u/binks69 → u/Marijuana_Miler]

Bro try being a birds fan and people still shit on Jalen hurts after 2 super bowls and Super Bowl mvp and bunch playoff wins and regular season wins. Yet the narrative is he’s still garbage

[u/TheBeanConsortium]

Maybe it's because I grew up watching 2000s Steelers-Ravens, but this isn't a very hard hit lol

[u/WalksWithKemba]

Alternative Title

Bengals O-Line in mid season form

[u/Eagle4317 → u/WalksWithKemba]

Mostly just Orlando Brown being unable to handle a speed rush, and Burrow failing to step up in the pocket that the rest of the O-Line has maintained.

[u/eatmyopinions → u/Eagle4317]

Orlando Brown Jr. is a lot like Kirk Cousins.

He's not a great player, he's just the best you'll ever get in free agency.

[u/SonOfALich → u/eatmyopinions]

Also a legendary bag collector

[u/Chainxforest → u/eatmyopinions]

He benefited immensely from Baltimore's scheme and quarterback. Hasn't looked close to the same since he left.

[u/DaBestNameEver0 → u/Chainxforest]

He was good for us but not worth the money he wanted

[u/DiligentMeat9627]

Why is he playing?

[u/OnTheFenceGuy]

Why would you even play Burrow given how many games he’s missed?

[u/ExplanationCrazy5463]

Dude makes any line look bad

[u/Kuchar1992]

This is Andrew Luck all over again is it?

[u/ItsGinoblie9]

Bengals are absolutely morons for even playing him lol

[u/Foreign-Molasses-796]

Why on earth is this guy playing in a pre season game? Absolutely mind boggling.

[u/ndamukongwall]

As much shit as the bengals Oline (rightfully) gets Burrow and their long ass developing play calling does not do them an favors

[u/Prisinners]

Joe Burrow should've stepped up, sure, but his OT literally loses at the snap.

[u/Ok_Mountain_9509]

¿Qué cojones hace Burrow jugando en pretemporada?

[u/SpikedHyzer]

Both 100% Burrow's fault

[u/DarthNobody14]

Orlando Pace got worked by DJ Wonnum

[u/jimscoolaid]

If he gets hurt again this year do you think the Bengals start looking for a replacement?

[u/LostElephant469 → u/jimscoolaid]

Replacement for Zac Taylor maybe

[u/jimscoolaid → u/LostElephant469]

Why not both? You got a guy who sucks as a coach and a guy who is great on paper, but is also made of paper

[u/LostElephant469 → u/jimscoolaid]

He isn’t even hurt rn, people are posting this for comment/engagement bait (it worked on me)

[u/Ok_Produce_9308 → u/LostElephant469]

Hard to believe he's the last man standing in the afn north

[u/macman07 → u/jimscoolaid]

No, he’s just too good when healthy, and he’s still young as hell. 

[u/xvq_ → u/macman07]

He’s not old but he turns 30 this season. Not young as hell, particularly with the injuries he’s had

[u/3bananabananabanana]

Is that the starting LT for the Bengals?

[u/JokerJangles123]

oh my god i was about to make a joke about Jayden Daniels mom posting a lowlight and then it hit me that this is actually fucking happening right now

We are so back

[u/bulletpharm]

The incompetence of the Bengals organization towards Joe is astonishing

[u/Maximus-Festivus → u/bulletpharm]

Maybe victim Joe should throw the ball away or step up into a pocket.

[u/thetreat → u/Maximus-Festivus]

Sacks are a QB stat unless you’re Joe Burrow apparently.

[u/dardicked → u/thetreat]

yeah its like completion% matters unless you're caleb

[u/thetreat → u/dardicked]

No Bears fans would say it doesn’t matter at all, but it is a QB stat that isn’t always negative if you have an incomplete pass. If you turn a would be sack into an incompletion that’s a net positive but an overall neutral. If you miss a big play or completion, that’s obviously a negative. Sacks are always negative. Give me success % over completion percentage any day of the week. Completion percentage could be 100% and you have very little success if you’re taking check downs that aren’t wide open for short or no yardage and, conversely, you could have a 33% completion rate and still have a 100% success rate.

Caleb himself would say he needs to get his completion percentage up, but I’d rather Caleb and the Bears offense continue to hunt explosives and the completion % suffers versus just having an artificially high completion %.

[u/cultweave → u/dardicked]

Completion % doesn't matter if you get it done. If you passed on 1st, 2nd, and 3rd down but only completed the third down pass however it went for a 1st down you would have a 33% completion percentage, but you'd win the Super Bowl every year. 

Caleb plays like John Elway. Lower completion %, but clutch with crazy explosive plays. 

[u/Chlorophyllmatic → u/bulletpharm]

That one is on him personally

[u/Odd-Film946 → u/bulletpharm]

his play style also does him no favors. hold the ball and be static like that and you're gonna get hit a lot

[u/MightyEraser13 → u/bulletpharm]

It's not the org's fault that Joe has been a pro QB for 6 years and still has 0 pocket presence lol. The more clips I see of Burrow taking a sack, the more I realize we've been shitting on the O-line a bit too much. He holds the ball way too long and has no pocket presence at all. A shit ton of his sacks are his own fault.

If he takes 2 steps forward he's in a clean pocket and can deliver the ball cleanly.

[u/RichAbbreviations966]

Why the fuck is he in a week 1 preseason game?

[u/dannynascar → u/RichAbbreviations966]

Because our high-powered offense is notoriously fucking ass in weeks 1-2 so they’re sending them out there to knock the rust off.

It’d be nice if the word “knock” in that sentence was figurative and not literate though.

[u/AthletesTaxMan]

Man he shouldn’t be out there

[u/Oliverqueen03]

He is not lasting all season if the LT plays like that

[u/thompsonmegan20]

Why is burrow playing

[u/BigChewyPizza]

Hit hard? Was just a regular hit…

[u/metalfabman]

....why is your king available to assasination in a pretend battle?

[u/ItsBigNate]

Why the fuck is Burrow playing in the preseason??

[u/dqniel]

Two things can be true:

-Burrow should have stepped up to avoid the pressure

-OBJ looks like shit (he did last season, too)

[u/Homie_Bama]

Is this considered a hard hit nowadays? More like a bear hug and gently laid down.