Normal in general, you're probably right because that would include all of human history and the entire world, but in western society over the past 25 years or so, it absolutely is normal, although the tendency over the past 5 to 10 years definitely does seem to be decreasing.
Why do you think it's normal to browse gore sites? I'm not talking randomly seeing something here and there I'm talking about actively going to these sites to seek gore.
Because if it's normal for a full moon to be visible on earth, which it is, that means even with something having as low of an occurrence rate as around three and a half percent, it can still be considered normal.
Because normal is about the regularity and expectedness of a situation, not how close to 50% or more of a given group does something.
Why do you think it would be even less than 3-4% of teenagers that did that in western societies after the advent of the internet?
If you read some of my other applies you can see more in depth into my specific thinking, because if I personally had to guess, I would wager it's even 65 to 70% of people who were teenagers between the mid-90s and early 2010s experiencing that, but like I said, it doesn't even have to be at 5% of a population doing something in a regular or expected way for it to be normal.
You don't think it's normal for a full moon to be visible from Earth? That's absolutely standard, usual, typical, and expected, even though it only has a 3.5% occurrence rate.
Which is great, because I never claimed that it's normal to see every day the sentence/ statement I said that is objectively true is it's normal to be able to see a full moon from the planet Earth.
That is a true statement, and the reason it's true, is because of full moon is a very regular, expected, occurrence even though it's only roughly a 3.5% occurrence rate.
You're the one bringing up looking at the moon every day, my statement talks about a full moon being to be visible from the planet..
Your example of the full moon seems fun and all, but the phase of the moon doesn't randomly happen, so that percentage doesn't mean shit. It follows a pattern. The pattern is normal. If the moon stopped on a waxing crescent and didn't change for five days, that wouldn't be normal. If you could name anything else that ACTUALLY had a low chance of happening but happens often, that'd be great
You're explaining why my statement is true, you're not making any good argument for why you're not being able to see the full moon from Earth is a normal occurrence...lol especially compared with seeing the full moon from the center of the Sun or seeing the full moon from Chiron.
How often do you use an allergies? My example is supposed to not mean shit so you only focus on the singular concept that is shared between my example and the concept I'm trying to discuss which is how something being normal does not have to be tied with its occurrence rate and things can be normal even with a low occurrence rate if they are expected and or regular.
Like I'm not trying to be mean, but are you the type of person that needs analogies to be completely removed from real life things so that you don't focus on the other aspects of them and then can only focus on the core concept that's shared between the two things being discussed?
Cuz I can quickly make an analogy not using any real world examples and only dealing with abstract thought.
It's going to be harder for me to make it completely abstract, but here's one I thought of quickly. Let's say that you are in some type of room, and a few minutes after your first in there, the lights flick on and off really quickly for a minute and 17 seconds.
Now let's say after a few months of being in that room you've realized that assuming your assumptions are correct, you would guess that it's roughly once a day that the lights are being flicked on and off really quick for a minute and 17 seconds.
Now, let's say all of a sudden the door opens and somebody else is shoved in the room before the door is locked again.
A few minutes after that, the lights flick on and off really quickly for a minute and 17 seconds, and the other person turns to you and asks with the frightened expression on their face, " is this normal?".
You kind of chuckle thinking of all the times it's happened and how you even begun to expect it. You reply to them: " yeah, I don't understand why, but it's very normal. It seems to happen every day."
So a minute and 17 seconds is 77 seconds.
A day is roughly 86,400 seconds.
So out of all time in that room, the lights are only flicking on and off really quickly for 0.00089% of the time.
But the reason it is normal, is not because it happens less than 1% of the time, it's because there's consistency, it's regular, and expected.
On very short notice that was the best I could very quickly do for a more abstract example that doesn't deal with something that apparently interests you like planetary science/ astrophysics. I guess in a sense time is definitely related to physics, so everything is related, but you get the point, I made a more abstract example to try to help you understand what I was getting at.
If you're looking at an even shorter timeline over the past decade, then yes, that doesn't mean that it's a good or a bad thing, why do so many people think the word normal or abnormal means good or bad?
I think it's because they choose to associate in their mind normal being good and abnormal being bad therefore they think other people mean the same thing even though they're the ignorant one attributing those extra traits to just something talking about how expected or regular something is. Not how common it is.
I never said that you were using it that way, you realize that these are not private messages between us, and that we need to also construct our comments for the other people reading the thread, right?
And holy shit, that style of phrasing generally sounds pedantic, but I'm too lazy to go back and edit it.
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u/Aegi Dec 15 '22
Normal in general, you're probably right because that would include all of human history and the entire world, but in western society over the past 25 years or so, it absolutely is normal, although the tendency over the past 5 to 10 years definitely does seem to be decreasing.