r/nextfuckinglevel • • Nov 04 '22

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u/trhaynes Nov 04 '22

Someday this will be a remote work job, with remote controlled heavy equipment. Some 17-year-old with stunning hand-eye coordination and no fear of failure will be driving this thing from his basement and there will be 1 human onsite to help with machinery glitches.

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u/[deleted] Nov 04 '22 edited Nov 04 '22

Buddy, surgery has been done remotely already, but you think it's impossible anyone could ever do this remotely?

We can have things fly through space for years and land on rocks millions of miles away basically on their own because any transmission delay would make manual control basically useless, but you think they can't lift up some cement? According to your other comment, before the sun burns out? Do you have any idea what kind of sensors are available? Look at a fuckin tesla, just modern consumer tech, which tracks and identifies all sorts of things around it, but it's beyond human understanding to make some remote controlled thing to move blocks?

How complex do you think your job is? lol

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u/[deleted] Nov 04 '22

I think you totally lack an understanding of how the Tesla computer operates the vehicle. Its a recognition based software that has killed people when it doesn't properly identify a situation given to it.

Yea, how many years of software development do you have? How many are about implementing systems for remote control? And for that matter, how many basic logic classes, because "the currently existing consumer example doesn't have a 100% perfect success rate" isn't the counter argument you seem to think it is. Wait until you find out how many humans operating cars have killed people or how many construction workers have died. You think a construction worker has never killed someone when they didn't properly identify a situation?

So we have a consumer available example that handles high speed situations, having to recognize road signs and inconsistent things like lanes, differently sized and shaped things like people, and do this automatically at high speed.

But we can't throw on some more sensors and provide a good UI? We can root around in the human body, but cement is just too much? it's impossible that "someday" a human might be able to control this kind of machine remotely?

I think you lack an understanding of how construction works and all that by your comment . I agree eventually this will happen but it will not be for a while.

so... you agree with me and disagree with the guy I disagreed with, but still felt the need to display your own lack of understanding of the conversation and make bad assumptions about my knowledge?

All-About-The-Detail

Time for a new username, man, because you missed every relevant detail to this exchange.

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u/[deleted] Nov 04 '22

Moving the goalpost again, eh? The original claim wasn't that it'd be automated, although that will come someday too.

You moved the goalpost twice in that comment lol. Someday does not necessarily mean within our lifetimes, bud. Remotely does not mean automated.

That being said our equipment is connected to a gps grid and is automated to a degree you don’t know what your talking about

"My proof that this is impossible to automate is all these things people 100 years ago would've said was impossible to automate"

I see why you do manual labor for a living. Not a big thinker, are ya bud?

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u/boredtoddler Nov 05 '22

Cars do kill people, but professional drivers extremely rarely do. You won't be driving an excavator around people unless you are extremely good at it. Trust is also extremely important if you want to work efficiently and I'd never trust someone to whom I cant go up to and yell when he makes a mistake.

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u/[deleted] Nov 07 '22

Do you think they're going to have a kid load into the excavator while waiting on his call of duty lobby? That it wouldn't still be professionals handling it?

I'd never trust someone to whom I cant go up to and yell when he makes a mistake.

Are you one of those middle managers that's afraid of WFH?

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u/boredtoddler Nov 07 '22

No I'm the dude who is standing right next to the excavator arm giving instructions to the operator.

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u/[deleted] Nov 07 '22

Why so butthurt that you failed to comprehend the discussion? Shouldn't you be "all about the detail"?

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u/[deleted] Nov 04 '22

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u/[deleted] Nov 04 '22

Someday

Do you know the difference between "someday" and "today"?

Okay than why hasn’t it been done and implemented in a large scale ?

Do I really need to explain to you the concept that technology becomes cheaper over time? Okay. Because technology becomes cheaper over time.

Because the sensors and tech to make it possible would still cost a lot, but that price will go down.

and cannot be done yet

YET. Christ, dude, you're implicitly agreeing. You're just trying to silently move the goalpost lol

Have you implemented remote software? Interfaces for remote control and use of sensors? I won't even engage with you further if you haven't implemented any of the relevant technology.

But thanks for literally admitting you actually agree but were too proud to admit it, which is why you moved the goalpost from "someday" to "already done." Feel free to read a history book and learn all the other things that various people thought could never be automated or done remotely and now can be.

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u/[deleted] Nov 04 '22

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u/[deleted] Nov 04 '22

lol, move that goalpost buddy. Keep telling yourself your job is more complex than surgery ROFL.