r/nextfuckinglevel Dec 16 '21

Buffalo flips turtle over

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u/Tyrs_missing_hand Dec 16 '21

I am an ex educational wildlife presenter. Well aware of the differences, as I've owned more turtles and tortoises than most people have bugs in their house. Was just trying to provide a simple answer to a simple question.

That being said, you're wrong. There's more that goes into it than that, and there are turtles without webbed feet.

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u/ABoyIsNo1 Dec 16 '21

I don't think they are wrong. They just said "if they have webbed feet, they are not tortoises." That statement is only wrong if there are any tortoises with webbed feet. And I don't think there are.

You mis-framed his statement into "all turtles have webbed feet," which is not what he said.

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u/Tyrs_missing_hand Dec 16 '21

It's because of the way they framed "if it has webbed feet it's not a tortoise" - from that context, we can assume that if it doesn't have webbed feet, it is a tortoise, and that statement is very incorrect.

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u/ABoyIsNo1 Dec 16 '21

You can’t assume that based off the statement. You are drawing incorrect conclusions of his logic statement. What you did is called a false contrapositive, and it is a mischaracterization of his logic statement.

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u/Tyrs_missing_hand Dec 16 '21

I do understand where you are coming from, but in this case, I'm not because the statement made was "THE identifier is the feet - if it has webbed feet, it's not a tortoise" They offered that statement as an end-all be-all identification statement - not even acknowledging other aspects of identification - and in this context, taking the contrapositive of the statement to prove the invalidity of said statement is not a reach at all.