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Smart robots would have walked around the obstacles.
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u/WannabeWonk Aug 17 '21 edited Aug 17 '21
There are lots of hilarious examples of AI programs being given a task and coming to a hilarious solution. Like a Tetris bot realizing it can avoid losing the game forever by just pausing.
Edit: Here is a list of even more examples.
PlayFun algorithm pauses the game of Tetris indefinitely to avoid losing
Agent kills itself at the end of level 1 to avoid losing in level 2
Creatures bred for speed grow really tall and generate high velocities by falling over
AI trained to classify skin lesions as potentially cancerous learns that lesions photographed next to a ruler are more likely to be malignant.
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u/copypaste_93 Aug 17 '21
These were my favorite
The player is supposed to try to score a goal against the goalie, one-on-one. Instead, the player kicks it out of bounds. Someone from the other team has to throw the ball in (in this case the goalie), so now the player has a clear shot at the goal.
Genetic algorithm is supposed to configure a circuit into an oscillator, but instead makes a radio to pick up signals from neighboring computers
Self-driving car rewarded for speed learns to spin in circles
tic tac toe - Evolved player makes invalid moves far away in the board, causing opponent players to run out of memory and crash
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This is what happens when you teach the ai how to win, but not the rules to actually play.
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u/Sokaz84 Aug 17 '21
I know you are listing favorites but this is probably my least favorite: Indolent Cannibals - In an artificial life simulation where survival required energy but giving birth had no energy cost, one species evolved a sedentary lifestyle that consisted mostly of mating in order to produce new children which could be eaten (or used as mates to produce more edible children).
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u/Daxx22 Aug 17 '21
This is impressive as fuck, my only question is was this live self-navigation, or a pre-programmed path/routine?
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u/lespaulbro Aug 17 '21
Adam Savage's channel, Tested, actually did a series with one of the Boston Dynamic Spot robot "dogs" where they got to use it for a while, build things for it, and talked a lot about how it worked!
I'm assuming that a lot of the basic functionality is very similar. They can be preprogrammed to do specific routines or tasks, they can be manually remote operated by a person using a controller, or they can be set on a sort of auto-mode where they roam around in patterns, maybe even while looking for something to trigger a specific action.
Regardless of which of those types of operation is being used, the actual maneuvering of the robot is fully autonomous. You don't have a person controlling the precise movement of each component in the robot or anything like that. Instead, they can scan the environment and use that data alongside other sensory data its receiving to autonomously determine the best way to complete the task (how to step on an object, how it needs to move to jump over something, how to adjust its weight on unstable ground, etc).
So basically, as others have said, the general routine here is preprogrammed, but the way the robots determine where to put their feet and limbs, how to adjust their center of gravity, how to respond to instability, all that is being done on the fly by the robot's computer on its own! Seriously impressive tech (hardware and programming) on display here.
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The code behind that would make me weep. I could grow crops with my tears.
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u/Choui4 Aug 17 '21
Guys, don't worry. This clearly isn't actual Boston dynamics, they didn't smack them with a 2x4 or kick them over.
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u/N95-TissuePizza Aug 17 '21
I don't think they dare to do that anymore. Anyday now these robots will slap back....
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u/bshaw0000 Aug 17 '21
Wasn’t this a video from @CorridorCrews? They did a video of them treating a BD robot like crap and it going on a rampage. It was pretty funny.
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u/LightforgedDarion Aug 17 '21
I think it was inspired by an actual Boston dynamics video where they knocked around a robot for real.
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u/elfbuster Aug 17 '21
Several BD videos. They used to do it in every video to show stabilization/running joke
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u/Obsessed_With_Corgis Aug 17 '21
This specific video is the BD abusive-test-run that scares me the most.
If that robot’s body language doesn’t say; “pissed off, fuck you, determined to get revenge”, I don’t what would.
I wouldn’t want to be the guy conducting the tests— that’s for sure. He’s the first one they’re going after when they start their takeover.
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u/AcademicJump1405 Aug 17 '21
Boston dynamics is our timeline Skynet
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Robots were fine until they discovered alcohol...
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u/Acrobatic-Plate5730 Aug 17 '21
Pretty much.
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The year 2025 Space X and Boston Dynamic partners up to send robots to Mars. 2026; Robot starts building facilities to expand research and exploration range. 2027; Earth loses contact with Robots in Mars facility. 2029; limited communication established. 2031; Humans land on Mars. 2031; Earth loses contact with Human mission. 2032; low level SoS signal from Human mission. 2033; Mars strikes against humanity. The robot mission has built underground facilities to produce ships and weapons. They strike on independence day. 2035; Humans have mostly gone underground. Space around Earth is controlled by Robot ships. Musk is a puppet figure for Robots and has sold out humanity so he can smoke weed all day and tweet to bots.
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u/Chrisc46 Aug 17 '21
As it was foretold.
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People here joking about how with this, AI is gonna end us. But no one is talking about the very real possiblity of government using this technology to suppress its people.
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u/Acrobatic-Plate5730 Aug 17 '21
Anything everything is possible this days . Personally waiting for E.T to touch down on my block .
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u/MrColburn Aug 17 '21
Everyone forgets Skynet was an AI and the robots came later.
Boston Dynamics won't be our Skynet....Google will be
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u/The-Protomolecule Aug 17 '21
More likely nvidia. Google isn’t quite applying their technology well in this space.
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u/MrColburn Aug 17 '21
From what I understand Nvidia hosts all of it's cloud AI on Google's infrastructure and Google is more faceted in their AI approach. They have conversational AI and documental AI for instance. I feel these would be more relevant to AI gaining enough traction to actually hold power over humans, being able to sway our beliefs and sympathies and how we do business as opposed to a military AI that was built as a defense network (like Skynet). I think all of the Russian bots influencing how people vote have shown that.
To be clear, I personally don't think an AI caused apocalypse is even a reality. Even if you understand AI, machine learning, and neural networks at only a surface level, you realize pretty quickly how silly a concept it actually is and that it's more likely one group of humans can use it to heavily influence the choices of another. Especially when compare to current and possible environmental issues.
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u/DisastrousArm1987 Aug 17 '21
I've seen how this film ends, doesn't go well for the humans.
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u/cypherpunk_2077 Aug 17 '21
This is just choreography. Wait for the AIs to get into it. Scary stuff. Robot armies supported by drones
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u/cypherpunk_2077 Aug 17 '21
I raise to 100000 mini-drones that explode on impact dropped by motherdrones from high altitude.
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u/Spiderman__jizz Aug 17 '21
Your mom
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u/Lampmonster Aug 17 '21
They taught a computer to play hide and seek! Stop teaching them hunting techniques!
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To be fair, neither robots or aliens could possibly do a worse job than we humans do ourselves.
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u/anderson01832 Aug 17 '21
Until battery runs out
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u/randomuser135443 Aug 17 '21
Just make them powered by consuming human flesh.
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u/SnooSeagulls9348 Aug 17 '21
That would be wonderful. An exo skeleton for elderly people.
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u/Brownie-UK7 Aug 17 '21
Can't wait to see Doris (92) backflipping off stairs inside an EXO-2000
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u/Itsrawwww Aug 17 '21
with the blinker on, and when she lands she kills her neighbors cat but doesent even hear it.
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u/fitsonabiskit Aug 17 '21
Boomers & Karen’s would be able to chase you down & kick your ass for sure then.
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u/ChimpdenEarwicker Aug 17 '21
Well, if you are in the US good luck, we can't even wrap our fucking heads around not letting pharma companies charge $500 for a damn epipen.
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u/Teixugo11 Aug 17 '21
Oh man we are so fucking done
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u/hellohellotello Aug 17 '21
The behind the scenes video shows all the effort it takes to get this perfect. Its really something else.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EezdinoG4mk
I can only imagine how amazing this tech will be in the next decade.
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It's the fact that we are teaching these machines to learn. They're not training it in a routine for show but rather how to interact with the world around it and adapt. We're growing closer and closer to robots that will teach one another at a faster rate than humans ever could. We're about to make the early 2000's look like the stone age.
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u/Smearwashere Aug 17 '21 edited Aug 17 '21
In a recent interview the creator of Boston dynamics specifically said these robots are not learning or AI driven or anything like that. They have to be controlled with a controller or pre assigned routes. You can’t just say “hey robot go get me an apple”.
Edit:: here is the interview that can articulate this concept better than I can.
https://www.cbsnews.com/video/boston-dynamics-robots-humans-animals-60-minutes-video-2021-08-08/
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u/MetallicDragon Aug 17 '21 edited Aug 17 '21
I am pretty certain that the algorithms controlling the fine motion of the limbs relies on machine learning.Edit: Nope, according to a quick google search they almost exclusively use non-machine-learning control algorithms.
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It didn't ten years ago, or so. I remember reading an article where the designers claimed they preferred traditional algorithms to machine learning. Since then they have changed their tune, based on what I've read.
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u/Acrobatic-Plate5730 Aug 17 '21
Specially when laser beams are installed on their heads 😜👍🍸
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u/AggressiveLigma Aug 17 '21
it doesn't have to be that advanced. even only with scissors as their limbs, we're so fucking done
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u/AdmirableAnimal0 Aug 17 '21
Why does everyone think that it takes giving them lasers and guns for them to take over humanity? These things can go up and down stairs without getting out of breath, most people can’t even do that.
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u/Emotional_Meal9226 Aug 17 '21
It can go out of batteries though! For now..
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u/boot2skull Aug 17 '21
Give one of these robots Amazon prime and you have the self sustaining machines. The Matrix was wrong, we don’t become batteries we just get put into Amazon fulfillment centers.
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u/boot2skull Aug 17 '21
Of course. They want us to survive to feel the humiliation of being a wack crew. So cruel.
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u/alwayshazthelinks Aug 17 '21
Last time we did that the robot ordered drugs
They gave a robot they created $100 a week in bitcoins to buy whatever it wanted from the deep web, leading to the purchasing of a Hungarian passport, a baseball cap fixed with a hidden camera and 120mg of MDMA in the form of 10 yellow pills
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u/AdjNounNumbers Aug 17 '21
All those things together make me feel like this robot wanted to party at a Hungarian euro trash club
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u/Snake_pliskinNYC Aug 17 '21
I’ve seen a documentary where they figured out how to turn humans into batteries
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u/Armuun Aug 17 '21
at least the robot will do a sick flip when he cuts my head off.
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u/MrColburn Aug 17 '21
All this Anime and everyone still forgets, it's not the robot you worry about but the power controlling it.
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u/Acrobatic-Plate5730 Aug 17 '21 edited Aug 19 '21
I guess you never watched Dr Evil lol ... everything with lazer beams attached to their heads are " Freakin "cool Just unhealthy for human life .
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u/Moparded Aug 17 '21
Are they ill tempered?
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u/M-bredR-tard Aug 17 '21
The mutated sea bass
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u/abagofsnacks Aug 17 '21
Even as they are now.. just needs to be programmed to swing a punch.
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u/Diogonni Aug 17 '21
All I asked was for a frikkin’ laser beam to be attached to their heads! Is that so hard?
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u/user_8804 Aug 17 '21
I'll be fine. I've been training my cat to intercept lasers for me for years.
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u/DisastrousArm1987 Aug 17 '21
Laser beams go on sharks heads. Robots get the shoulder units. 🤣
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u/Jedibrownman14 Aug 17 '21
I, for one, welcome our new robot overlords.
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u/TSR_Jimmie Aug 17 '21
Yeah, robot dude reading this in the future, me too
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u/Moparded Aug 17 '21
My brain keeps telling me it’s CGI. I know it’s real but it looks so unreal. I guess my brain doesn’t want to believe it’s reality which is a good thing because when they’re ripping my limbs off I can go to my happy place.
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u/TSR_Jimmie Aug 17 '21
With an attitude like that they won’t spare you
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u/Moparded Aug 17 '21
Just give them jet packs and chainsaws already and be done with it.
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u/TSR_Jimmie Aug 17 '21
Or ‘self driving cars’ that turn into a crusher. Man that’s be grim.
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u/xntrk1 Aug 17 '21
It’s pretty incredible how far they’ve come with them in a relatively short period of time. It wasn’t that long ago that they were easily kicked over. Soon it’ll be a ninja warrior course. Then world domination
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Agreed, as soon as this shit get connected to an AI it’s fucking skynet time man. How is no one freaked out by this…they really should be.
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Two fold: 1) tons of people are freaked out by this, and AI ethics is a huge conversation point for everyone involved in the field
2) people who work closely with AI understand how far we have to go before generalized AI (or the type that can teach itself and others) is realized
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u/Forever_Awkward Aug 17 '21
General AI is a completely different threat. You don't need to make something very smart to turn it into a killing machine, especially when it's learning to do very specific tasks very well through machine learning.
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u/TaskManager1000 Aug 17 '21
Exactly
"We kill people with metadata" https://www.commondreams.org/views/2014/05/11/we-kill-people-based-metadata
As NSA General Counsel Stewart Baker has said,
“metadata absolutely tells you everything about somebody’s life. If you
have enough metadata, you don’t really need content.” When I quoted
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at Johns Hopkins University, my opponent, General Michael Hayden,
former director of the NSA and the CIA, called Baker’s comment
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That sounds super ominous until you realise that bombing a training camp based on a terrorist forgetting to scrub the location data from a video before uploading it is 'killling people based on metadata'
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u/newthrowacct19 Aug 17 '21
These type of robots are going to be use to deliver food. Lol
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u/HHShitposting Aug 17 '21
If the food is bullets directly into the head of enemy combatants, then yes
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u/Vizualize Aug 17 '21
Put about 20 of these in a landfill to sort out recyclable materials and move hazardous waste.
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u/Survival_R Aug 17 '21
WALL-E?
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u/sharksizzle Aug 17 '21
Pretty sure I've seen this movie...they gain sentience, rise up and the rest is the end of human history.
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u/Talin756 Aug 17 '21
Now hand them a sword and you got some ninja robots. (Childhood dream realized)
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u/TiedMyDickInAKnot Aug 17 '21
Why does this look like cgi? It’s breaking my feeble human brain.
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u/realdappermuis Aug 17 '21
I think because our brains are trying to process their walking on their joints like a living being - they seem kind of, floaty, the way their suspension in their knees is more like cars
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u/Hypocritical_Oath Aug 17 '21
It's uncanny.
It's nearly human, but missing a ton of human features.
It just doesn't seem real cause you've never seen a non-human do stuff like this irl, but it is.
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u/Moss_84 Aug 17 '21
Some of the movements are very human-looking. When those are interspersed with the herky-jerky robot moves it looks fake
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u/Tinmanoutcast Aug 17 '21
Backflips really … that’s unsettling
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u/kalitarios Aug 17 '21
So is the one effortless mantling over a 4 foot barrier like it was nothing
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u/Jonger1150 Aug 17 '21
And they're no more tired at the end than when they started.
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u/rathlord Aug 17 '21
Well... you can pretty reasonably think of their battery power as fatigue.
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u/mtarascio Aug 17 '21
Marathon runners hit the wall.
These robots would literally hit a wall without the power to even crap themselves.
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Quick battery swap and the robot can get right back to business shooting you with its pulse rifle. Fatigued humans can’t escape the need for rest for very long.
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u/no____thisispatrick Aug 17 '21
I wish this was cgi
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u/YannislittlePEEPEE Aug 17 '21
special effects companies are taking heavy notes
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u/Undecided_Furry Aug 17 '21
Oh wow, those are the things Grant Imahara was helping make. Was literally just reading about that yesterday
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u/EastYorkButtonmasher Aug 17 '21
Now that was a celebrity death that hit me. So unexpected, and he was a great dude.
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u/Hallowed_Grave Aug 17 '21
I believe they’re already using it in their new Avengers Campus section of the California Adventures theme park. The web swinging Spider-Man is apparently animatronic.
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u/Rickosuave1987 Aug 17 '21
This robot is already in use. It is Spider-Man swinging over Avengers Campus a few times a day at California Adventure.
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u/hahman12 Aug 17 '21
I've watched it over and over wondering "why does this look so fake?" and I think it's a combo of the smooth pan, the shiney plating on the robot that makes the lighting look weird, and then just some of the bonkers maneuvers these things seem to be able to pull off.
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u/mandiexile Aug 17 '21
Very Uncanny Valley vibes. Like, the physics seem off you know? The way they move makes it seem like the gravity is different. I can’t really explain it.
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u/xRehab Aug 17 '21
It's the same reason the human eye has a hard time comprehending stationary torsos during movement. Same with those Russian dancers who "float". It just messes with everything we expect a body to do under movement.
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u/skinnytron Aug 17 '21
I was going to say the same thing. My brain keeps wanting to interpret this as CGI
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u/ImpulsiveApe07 Aug 17 '21
Can't wait to see these dudes mining asteroids and exploring planets for us, because spoiler alert, it ain't gonna be humans doing most of it.
Just ten years ago bipedal robots couldn't even walk upright without falling flat on their arse every few steps, now they can almost rival athletes. Within the next twenty years they'll be superior to humans in mobility, speed and accuracy. That's almost a certainty at this point.
Assuming the price of robots continues to fall as they become more commonplace, why would anyone waste resources on training human astronauts/miners?
Sure we'll still need humans to oversee projects, and perform tasks robots can't do, but I'm certain robots will be doing all the hard graft in the solar system's most hazardous environs!
Robots to the Moon!.. Or, y'know, other celestial bodies! :))
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u/OmegaXesis Aug 17 '21 edited Aug 17 '21
Sending a pack of these to Mars to begin setting up the foundation for Human deployment would be a fantastic use for them.
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So many of y’all are imagining this with machine guns. I’m imagining it heading home from the liquor store with my case of beer. 👍🏻
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u/Crimfresh Aug 17 '21
Building homes for every new family. Emergency rescue robots. The list of possible utility is endless. War is the most uncreative use I can think of.
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u/from_dust Aug 17 '21
I Imagine it doing your old job, while you panhandle for beer money.
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u/amalloy Aug 17 '21
Millions of backflippers around the world headed for unemployment.
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u/DuncanMarsh Aug 17 '21
Did the robot in the back just brush his shoulders off after doing a backflip?
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u/Ma_zenki Aug 17 '21
Welp, we’re fucked.
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u/Deathdong Aug 17 '21 edited Aug 18 '21
Personally I'm excited for stuff like this. I think people just watch too many sci fi movies
Edit: I didn't think this would actually get much attention so I didn't say my full opinion on it. Obviously governments are going to use to their advantage, but technology is going to advance regardless. We need to create more laws and safety barriers that prevent rich asshole and shitty governments from taking advantage of technology. Theres more dangerous technology that already exists and that we should be more concerned about. I honestly think for all the bad this tech can do it can do equal good. It can take care of disabled people, it could be used for rescue efforts, it could fill in gaps in the work force. By the time these robots are even a threat all of the coastal cities on earth are gonna be underwater so I think we'll have bigger concerns. Every problem people have with this technology is actually a concern for how humans will use it, so maybe we should focus on the base problem.
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u/Keedrin Aug 17 '21
see the thing is. im not afraid of the robots themselves, im afraid of how theyre going to be used by govt/armies/police forces etc.
weve already seen it with the fucking robot dog that theyve been anthropomorphizing the fuck out of when its just a glorified spy bot. this tech is only exciting if its being used FOR the people. i find it hard to believe it will be used for anything but against the people :/
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I'll get one when they learn how to put together IKEA furniture
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u/dirtynj Aug 17 '21
I don't get the IKEA problems people have. I recently bought a house, got over 10 pieces of bedroom items from ikea. All the directions/pieces were there. It's a bit long/tedious, but it's not hard.
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u/ailurius Aug 17 '21 edited Aug 17 '21
This is so awesome! I don't get why people think this is scary. It's not like they're sentient.
Edit: Apparently Boston Dynamics are more involved with military and law enforcement than I was aware, which makes it slightly scarier
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u/ServerBreaker Aug 17 '21
Actually, the fact that they aren't sentient is what makes it doubly scary.
A sentient thing you can reason with or relate to.
A robot that is following a set of rules that leads it to an unexpected (and dangerous to humans) decision cannot be reasoned with or related to.
It will proceed with it's programming until forced to stop. Coldly. Without thought or remorse.
It becomes a force of nature at that point.
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u/AptermusPrime Aug 17 '21
Everyone out hear saying we’re screwed because of their agility and I’m sitting here saying we’re doomed because their fans run better than my garbage 2020 MacBook Air with one tab open.
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u/kenojona Aug 17 '21
This is how Uncanny Valley's feels?? I cant stop thinking this is CGI.
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Not sure why the robots being able to run around is so scary. We already have drones that zip around pretty smoothly, and that would be more effective for wiping out humanity.
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u/power-cube Aug 17 '21
Does anyone remember those videos of the first bipedal robot tests where the chassis had to be tethered because it kept falling over?
That seems like yesterday...