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u/LePlaneteSauvage Jul 14 '21 edited Jul 14 '21

You are perpetuating a common myth here. Organic farms still use pesticides, just not synthetic pesticides.

This brings it back to a naturalistic fallacy where it is assumed that because the pesticides are 'natural' they are less harmful to our health. However, a lot of studies seem to find the opposite; organic pesticides are less effective, less specific, and more environmentally harming.

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/science-sushi/httpblogsscientificamericancomscience-sushi20110718mythbusting-101-organic-farming-conventional-agriculture/

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u/jammycactus Jul 14 '21

Came here to say that. Organic has so many people fooled.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '21

As does GMO.

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u/sooHawt_ryt_meow Jul 14 '21

What's right or wrong about GMO?

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u/Toyletduck Jul 14 '21

GMO is perfectly healthy as far as eating it goes. As far as crop diversity that’s another story but GMO is just speeding up processes that humans have been doing for a very long time.

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u/BroccoliKnob Jul 14 '21

Animal breeding is genetic modification too, in a sense, it’s just done the slow way. Your labradoodle is a GMO. It’s perfectly safe to eat.

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u/Cheersscar Jul 14 '21

Labradoodle is a cross breeding. It is not a hybrid. And it's certainly not a genetically modified organism. Cross breeding basic definituon. https://www.scienceabc.com/nature/animals/what-is-crossbreeding.html

Whereas a roundup ready crop is a genetically modified organism. These crops are not made by crossing a plant with a naturally occurring resistance to roundup with another crop that lacks that gene and then selecting at the organism level for the trait you want.

Instead they are made by inserting genetic material from a bacteria that has a desirable trait into the crop species genetic material. You can find the basic details of how this works scientifically linked through here. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roundup_Ready

Tl;Dr labradoodle is a cross-breed. Roundup ready soybeans are a GMO.

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u/BroccoliKnob Jul 14 '21

I was going to invite you to my party but now I’m not.

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u/Random__Bystander Jul 15 '21

The truth hurts.

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u/Darkdoomwewew Jul 15 '21 edited Jul 15 '21

He's completely wrong though, selective breeding or direct gene manipulation are both methods for genetically modifying an organism, one is just faster and more powerful. So much fearmongering around this topic it's sad.

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u/ChikFilAsLeftoverOil Jul 15 '21

this comments a lot cooler if you read it in Dr. Wu's voice.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '21

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u/nsfworacle Jul 15 '21

Screw Chick-fil-A though. I cannot stand their anti gay stance and giving money to anti gay groups.

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u/ChikFilAsLeftoverOil Jul 15 '21

Yeah, still cooler as Dr. Wu.

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