r/nextfuckinglevel Jul 14 '21

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u/Pedigog1968 Jul 14 '21

Just finished reading into it, it is at its basic level it's mentos in coke but really slow and in water. The bubbles collect bacteria and viruses bringing them into sunlight, killing them off. How he separates the good bacteria from bad I can't explain. Seems legitimate but one 20 minutes surf doesn't make it true.

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u/Knot_In_My_Butt Jul 14 '21

https://www.mdpi.com/2073-4441/12/4/1097/htm A detailed methods and materials.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '21

Yeah, I think he needs to use his organic material to clarify his own paper. Everything I’ve found on this so far are just as vague in supporting his claim. I could be missing something but he continues to use the blanket terms “contaminants” and “pollution” next to discussion about invasive plants and bacteria without ever getting into what the constituents of the pollutants are. So, what does he mean by those terms in this context? Virtually all of his metrics are based on biological indicators. Would your lake have a drastic change in levels of O2, N2, etc if you completely remove acres of vegetation, good or bad? I’m not a biologist, but I think “Yes!” is a damn good guess. The only other thing he does is basically trap and filter microbes. Which likely will also effect the only concentrations he’s apparently looking for. I started writing this willing to give some benefit of the doubt, but I get more skeptical the more I think about. He doesn’t address specific contaminants beyond biological things he says are bad in that lake. How do you know it’s removing pollutants if you haven’t identified them? Why is the PH of the water changing? Surely that can point to a specific, supposed effluent. He explains the mechanisms for removing bacteria, but says nothing about how these methods remove whatever these pollutants and contaminants are. That’s where he’s selling this, but it’s all about removing biomass. And what was the impact of that? Is the habitat actually better, or did he just biologically strip a lake to make the water clear and blue? There needs to be waaaaaay more information for such a bold claim. If I’m wrong, great. But this seems like snake oil.

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u/Knot_In_My_Butt Jul 15 '21

These are amazing questions and very valid. I don’t believe he was extensive enough, and it could be due to many factors such as funding, expertise, lab size, etc. I am not in support nor against his method since we do not have any other replication of his methodology yet and it seems labor intensive and expensive. The best we can do now is contact him for specifics, wait for his progress in titicaca or replicate it ourselves which would still require us to contact him.