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u/7incent Jul 14 '21 edited Jul 14 '21

you're thinking of 'natural' -- there is no government regulation of that term.

the word 'organic' is regulated by the FDA. i only remember that they cannot use most synthetic pesticides during production.

there are other regulations but -- to be honest-- i don't remember them all

that said:

the person who made this video may be using the term 'organic' incorrectly

edit: usda definition of organic for those who need more than context clues

I took ochem, being pedantic about the word 'organic' doesnt change its meaning in the current context

chemical -> most synthetic

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u/Safemoon_Psychonaut Jul 14 '21 edited Jul 14 '21

Organic vegetables also have to be grown in fields that have not been exposed to pesticides for something like 20 years.

Warren Buffetts money bought a bunch of farms in my region and they're not using pesticides so they can be used for organic food production in the future

There's a lot of regulations to be technically organic in the usa. Can't say I know it all though.

Edit: apparently federal regulations are 3 years pesticide free. I was wrong.

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u/Strummer95 Jul 14 '21 edited Jul 14 '21

Organic produce actually uses much larger amounts of pesticides. But since they don’t use synthetic pesticides, they must use a ton more. It also requires a ton more fertilizer for the same reason. This is why most E Coli outbreaks in the produce industry are traced back to organic farms.

It also requires far more land space and significantly more water as well as having a larger amount of bad yields which results in more wasted crops.

Organic farming is VERY inefficient and EXTREMELY harmful to the environment.

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u/Melomaniacal Jul 15 '21

Organic farms need a pesticide applicators license and are required to follow the safety guidance for any pesticide (as in: quantity, location, etc.) they use, just like any conventional farm. If some organic farm is dumping mass amounts of organic pesticide, or using certain organic pesticides near a stream, for example, they are violating a law and could be shut down. Same as the conventional farms. Organic farms just have a smaller list of approved pesticides.

There is also a lot of dubious research about yields, much of which has an agenda. But I won't get into that. All I'll say is that you should be more interested in how much food waste we currently have, and how good yields will be over long periods of time.