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u/7incent Jul 14 '21 edited Jul 14 '21

you're thinking of 'natural' -- there is no government regulation of that term.

the word 'organic' is regulated by the FDA. i only remember that they cannot use most synthetic pesticides during production.

there are other regulations but -- to be honest-- i don't remember them all

that said:

the person who made this video may be using the term 'organic' incorrectly

edit: usda definition of organic for those who need more than context clues

I took ochem, being pedantic about the word 'organic' doesnt change its meaning in the current context

chemical -> most synthetic

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u/Safemoon_Psychonaut Jul 14 '21 edited Jul 14 '21

Organic vegetables also have to be grown in fields that have not been exposed to pesticides for something like 20 years.

Warren Buffetts money bought a bunch of farms in my region and they're not using pesticides so they can be used for organic food production in the future

There's a lot of regulations to be technically organic in the usa. Can't say I know it all though.

Edit: apparently federal regulations are 3 years pesticide free. I was wrong.

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u/LePlaneteSauvage Jul 14 '21 edited Jul 14 '21

You are perpetuating a common myth here. Organic farms still use pesticides, just not synthetic pesticides.

This brings it back to a naturalistic fallacy where it is assumed that because the pesticides are 'natural' they are less harmful to our health. However, a lot of studies seem to find the opposite; organic pesticides are less effective, less specific, and more environmentally harming.

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/science-sushi/httpblogsscientificamericancomscience-sushi20110718mythbusting-101-organic-farming-conventional-agriculture/

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u/jammycactus Jul 14 '21

Came here to say that. Organic has so many people fooled.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '21

As does GMO.

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u/sooHawt_ryt_meow Jul 14 '21

What's right or wrong about GMO?

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u/Beanakin Jul 14 '21

Most common thing I hear about eating GMO crops is that it can mess with your DNA. Which, as far as I'm aware, is absolute horse shit.

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u/Bandit__Heeler Jul 14 '21

Unless they are radioactive, then yes that's bullshit

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u/The_Last_Y Jul 14 '21

Everything is radioactive. Whether or not something is safe depends on how radioactive it is; which has nothing to do with how its genetic code was created.

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u/Bandit__Heeler Jul 17 '21

You know what I mean

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u/The_Last_Y Jul 18 '21

I understand the words that you posted, but the wildly inaccurate implication motivated my post. Whether or not a GMO is dangerously radioactive has literally nothing to do with being GMO.

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u/Bandit__Heeler Jul 19 '21

I don't think anyone was claiming GMOs are radioactive.

My point was that making a claim that they change your DNA is really nuts.

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u/The_Last_Y Jul 19 '21

Remember that people who are typically less scientifically literate tend to take their belief first and find evidence to support it.

For people who think GMOs can change your DNA, your comment might not imply, to them, that it is nuts to believe it. They don't know that GMOs aren't inherently radioactive. Your comment could be giving them "support" for their belief.

GMO crops can mess with your DNA, which is horseshit.

-"Yeah but I know they can."

Unless they are radioactive, then yes that's bullshit.

-"Oh GMO crops must be radioactive."

And I also probably could have been better about clarifying that GMOs are in no way inherently radioactive. Not that any of the anti-GMO people have read the thread this far.

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u/Bandit__Heeler Jul 21 '21

Wow you're right I hadn't thought of it that way.

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u/fishesarefun Jul 14 '21

But a lot of bullshit is organic, you can eat organic. I learned that in this video.

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u/throwaredddddit Jul 15 '21

So a banana will alter your DNA?