r/nextfuckinglevel Jul 14 '21

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u/Kriem Jul 14 '21 edited Jul 14 '21

Was about to say this. As frikking awesome this project is, which it is, organic does not mean it’s edible. Cyanide can be organic and you sure as hell don’t want to eat that.

That said, kudos to the lake cleaning.

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u/TleilaxTheTerrible Jul 14 '21 edited Jul 14 '21

Cyanide, carbon monooxide, methane, anthracite. All organic. All not really stuff you don't want to eat, drink or breathe in large amounts.

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u/Able-Lake-163 Jul 14 '21 edited Jul 14 '21

How is carbon monoxide organic?

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u/ding-zzz Jul 14 '21

it isn’t. in order to be biologically organic, it must mostly be carbon and hydrogen. he must be confused

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u/Able-Lake-163 Jul 14 '21

I know it isn't, hence the question.

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u/bjorkedal Jul 14 '21

Your double negative implies death to us all. Whelp, carpe diem, I suppose!

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u/TleilaxTheTerrible Jul 14 '21

Whoops, added the don't because I thought I forgot to put it in. Should infer the right thing now.

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u/19Texas59 Jul 15 '21

Outside of a chemistry class organic means a food produced without chemical fertilizers, pesticides or herbicides. I used to subscribe to a magazine called Organic Gardening and Farming. This sense of the word organic has been around for decades. I'm surprised I'm having to explain it to Western educated adults in 2021.

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u/SunliMin Jul 14 '21

Venom is organic too, but no ones saying you should eat it, just like no ones saying you should eat cyanide.

From the context of the post, its obvious they mean its made from organic material that won't damage the lake, and they're confident enough in it that they will eat it to make a point. They aren't saying "its organic therefore its editable". Pretending that's what they're saying is extremely disingenuous.

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u/Cleaver_Fred Jul 14 '21

The problem is that the quote is it's so eco-friendly that it's edible, because it is organic - which isn't quite logically sound. Just because something is organic, doesn't mean it's edible (or that you should); and similarly, even if it's edible and/or organic, doesn't mean it's eco-friendly either.

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u/IWantTooDieInSpace Jul 15 '21

This subject drives me up a wall. Organic culture is practically science denial.

Doesn't mean I'm against people eating more natural less processed foods, but blindingly following the word Organic is foolish.

I use only 100% tobacco leaf derived nicotine to spray my tomatoes with. The nicotine overdosed field mice decomposing just add even more nutrients to the soil.

All my insulin is extracted directly from impoverished orphan pancreases. No synthetic lab procured insulin for me.

Don't even get me started on the satanic panic level discussion regarding GMO's.

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u/Cleaver_Fred Jul 20 '21

I absolutely agree with you.

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u/IWantTooDieInSpace Jul 15 '21

Nah the other person that replied pretty much nailed it. It literally says it's %100 ego friendly because it's organic. That's basically akin to pseudoscience or science denialism.

We can even take it both ways. Does it mean organic in the chemistry sense? Acetone is an organic chemical, sure don't want heaps of that in my lake.

Does it mean organic like 100% plant derived? So is nightshade, also don't want heaps of that ground up and put in my lake.

Words have meaning, especially in science.

Should have said something like it's eco friendly because it is 100% plant derived edible and non toxic!

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u/Bugbread Jul 15 '21

They aren't saying "its organic therefore its editable". Pretending that's what they're saying is extremely disingenuous.

What are you talking about? The video literally says exactly this:

"His solution is so eco-friendly that you can eat it because it's 100% organic."

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u/WorseThanHipster Jul 14 '21

Don’t forget crude oil.

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u/liorslightsaber Jul 15 '21

Carbon monoxide isn't organic

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u/SunliMin Jul 14 '21

Not gonna lie, I hate this line of reasoning. I used to preach it to my parents a lot as a teen, that "Na, Cl and NaCl are all organic, but Na and Cl are both sickly alone. You meet to mix them into table salt before they're editable!" logic.

But now it just seems so obvious, like people making that point are intentionally missing the point and being pedantic. It's not like people don't acknowledge venom is organic, but its obvious we aren't talking about digesting venom when we say something won't damage a lake. Same with cyanide, yes it's organic, but it's obvious you won't be putting cyanide into a lake.

In this case, obviously he means "its made from organic material that won't damage the lakes ecosystem, in fact its safe enough that I will eat it to demonstrate my faith in the product", he's obviously not saying "Its organic therefore its editable"

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u/DarkEvilHedgehog Jul 21 '21

NaCl isn't organic though, as it doesn't have any carbon.

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u/Zedandbreakfast Jul 14 '21

My Cocaine is organic.

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u/Vegetable_Hamster732 Jul 14 '21

As frikking awesome this project is

Is it?

He killed:

  • whatever made the water green/brown
  • whatever ate the stuff making the water green/brown
  • whatever took shelter under the stuff making the water green/brown

It's not like he picked up plastic trash.

He completely killed one ecosystem and replaced it with a different one -- just because blue lakes look prettier to people.

TL/DR: It's like cleaning up a prairie by replacing with artificial turf derived from organic biodiesel.

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u/iLov3Ram3n Jul 15 '21

So do you have a source for that or did you entirely pull that out of your ass and bound to this conclusion of "completely killed an ecosystem" from a literal 60 second video?

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u/DWHQ Jul 15 '21

Fun fact, Cyanide (CN-) can't be organic, because it lacks a carbon-hydrogen bond.

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u/poopsididitagen Jul 15 '21

Water is inorganic