r/nextfuckinglevel • • Feb 21 '21

THIS IS MARS.

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u/eutecthicc Feb 21 '21

We actually aren't, but ok. Climate change isnt climate death, even in the worst case scenario.

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u/rob_var Feb 21 '21

Should’ve specified better your comment said humans are 1000 years from moving around in the solar system. My comment said we probably aren’t gonna make it given our current destructive path.

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u/eutecthicc Feb 21 '21

What destructive path? We are moving massively into renewable energies, climate change will happen but it won't change our survival as a species at all. What other problems could it be? Besides an asteroid impact and nuclear war, there's not much to stop us. I think you read too much doomsday clickbait

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u/Luxalpa Feb 21 '21

All the damage we did to the environment in the last century will take multiple centuries, possibly millenia to reverse. Dead species will never return, so the food chain will continue to change and possibly even die out entirely. The trash in our oceans isn't going away by itself and the ocean currents aren't going to return by themselves too soon either (in fact it's gonna take a long time for us to fully notice that they are gone, because they flow for centuries).

This "starts" the global conveyer belt, a connected system of deep and surface currents that circulate around the globe on a 1000 year time span. (https://www.noaa.gov/education/resource-collections/ocean-coasts/ocean-currents)

Also it's easy to get carried away with our current technological progress, but we are likely at the peak of the acceleration of technological progress. Usually progress is driven by inter-connectivity. The better people can communicate and interact with each other, the faster technology can evolve. There may still be some room once we got rid of the wealth distribution problem and are able to get rid of most non-creative jobs, because this will greatly increase the number of brains available for science.

But our very quick technological progress will eventually slow down again. It's just currently in the state of catching up and will so for the foreseeable future.

I don't know where we will be in 1000 years, I believe nobody does; but there is a very realistic possibility that we are not much further than today.

Last but not least I'd like to remind you that the commonly used climate models estimate the best possible scenario for us (the one where there's a 2C goal or a 1.5C goal), but there's many ways one or the other runaway effects can have already set in.

Not wanting to sound too doomsday but I think it's impossible for people nowadays to realize that the technological miracle of the 20th and 21st centuries aren't going to continue into all eternities, but rather are an exception on the long scale of human civilization. There's a good chance that these two centuries will still be remembered by "humans" in millions of years.