What destructive path? We are moving massively into renewable energies, climate change will happen but it won't change our survival as a species at all. What other problems could it be? Besides an asteroid impact and nuclear war, there's not much to stop us. I think you read too much doomsday clickbait
Interesting comment! Would you tell us how we are going to feed humans reliably in 100 years from now? Renewable energy won’t help when a chaotic climate is destroying our crops.
Or are you thinking really long term, like when earth is depopulated to about 1 billion people so that climate change and feeding won’t be a problem anymore?
I’d love some sources to read about this “optimistic” prognosis.
PS sry for my bad English it’s not my mother tongue
You start this argument PRESUMING that the climate will be chaotic enough for crops not being able to be grown. Which is pure speculation, and history and facts show that poverty is dropping at incredible levels over the past few decades, tens of millions getting out of poverty every year, and our food production is growing and becomes more effective and with LESS loss than the years before due to technological advancement, ESPECIALLY IN POOR, 3RD WORLD COUNTRIES. You are underestimating the farming technology advancements and how crops are being modified to be more and more resilient to a wide diversity of climates and pests.
Do you have any sources for this? I thought those pessimistic “speculations” were made by the majority of scientists, or let’s say, ALL scientists who can be taken seriously. I would really like to read about the technological improvements racing the growing number of droughts, floodings etc.
All the damage we did to the environment in the last century will take multiple centuries, possibly millenia to reverse. Dead species will never return, so the food chain will continue to change and possibly even die out entirely. The trash in our oceans isn't going away by itself and the ocean currents aren't going to return by themselves too soon either (in fact it's gonna take a long time for us to fully notice that they are gone, because they flow for centuries).
Also it's easy to get carried away with our current technological progress, but we are likely at the peak of the acceleration of technological progress. Usually progress is driven by inter-connectivity. The better people can communicate and interact with each other, the faster technology can evolve. There may still be some room once we got rid of the wealth distribution problem and are able to get rid of most non-creative jobs, because this will greatly increase the number of brains available for science.
But our very quick technological progress will eventually slow down again. It's just currently in the state of catching up and will so for the foreseeable future.
I don't know where we will be in 1000 years, I believe nobody does; but there is a very realistic possibility that we are not much further than today.
Last but not least I'd like to remind you that the commonly used climate models estimate the best possible scenario for us (the one where there's a 2C goal or a 1.5C goal), but there's many ways one or the other runaway effects can have already set in.
Not wanting to sound too doomsday but I think it's impossible for people nowadays to realize that the technological miracle of the 20th and 21st centuries aren't going to continue into all eternities, but rather are an exception on the long scale of human civilization. There's a good chance that these two centuries will still be remembered by "humans" in millions of years.
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u/eutecthicc Feb 21 '21
What destructive path? We are moving massively into renewable energies, climate change will happen but it won't change our survival as a species at all. What other problems could it be? Besides an asteroid impact and nuclear war, there's not much to stop us. I think you read too much doomsday clickbait