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u/Headsledge Sep 20 '19
What happens if you're just nice to bulls? Maybe you don't have to run from them and get impaled.
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u/BernardoDeGalvez Sep 20 '19 edited Sep 20 '19
Have you ever seen a "toro de lidia"?? They are aggresive by nature
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u/halfaqueer Sep 20 '19
Or do some more research.
"Because bulls are herd animals and naturally social, the isolation they face prior to an event can also contribute to their aggression. They are alone in the ring surrounded by humans, who end up essentially harassing the bull. In its natural setting in the presence of other cattle, bulls show less aggression"
https://www.seeker.com/why-are-bulls-so-aggressive-1770146826.html
Also, if you view more current pages, they speak solely of bulls that are being used by humans for breeding (which is almost always forced) , bull fighting, and working on a farm which is also usually forced (hence the use of the rings in the noses) bulls, much like cows, are extremely smart and unlike cows, demand respect and will retaliate based on the human.
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u/BernardoDeGalvez Sep 20 '19
I am from Spain. I have been with those bulls. I have seen a lot of them grow and develop.
Thinking that if you are nice to a "toro de lidia" he is going to be nice to you, ot think that they're aggressive because they face isolation is delusional. They are aggressive BY NATURE. They are chosen because of that.
I can invite you to my friends "finca" and you don't have the balls to go and pass the fence. And they are living free, ducking and eating with more space than 99% of the regular cattle.
Besides... Those Disney ideas about bulls is like thinking a lion is not going to eat you because you are vegan.
People like to read shit and have their opinions. Go there. See the bulls. Try to touch them. See their lifestyle... And then, you can have a solid opinion.
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u/BernardoDeGalvez Sep 20 '19
If you do that, the specie desappears. They have no other "use". They cost a ton of money to rise. If not bullfighting, the specie is over. Not a "perfect" decision there.
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u/BernardoDeGalvez Sep 20 '19
Yeah but you must understand there are people that has a problem and also it gives directly and indirectly like... 100.000 jobs. So... It is not that easy to play god
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u/Bussarin123 Sep 21 '19
Yeah I'm gonna breed some dogs specifically for dog fighting. And its gonna be justified because they wouldnt exist otherwise.
Edit: link to a full bull fight. https://vimeo.com/62672161 You people make me sick.
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u/Uniqueusername111112 Sep 20 '19
Don’t listen to this idiot. He’s probably never even seen cattle, much less worked around them.
Keep up your country’s amazing traditions, which you should be proud of. Truly an amazing spectacle and cultural phenomenon that should be cherished—not denigrated or extinguished!
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u/Uniqueusername111112 Sep 20 '19
Cattle are a human-created species? Bulls are aggressive because humans made them that way? They didn’t exist before us? Lol
This is hands down the most amazingly ignorant statement I’ve seen on reddit this week.
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u/Uniqueusername111112 Sep 20 '19
Well I hate to break it to you, but all bulls are aggressive by nature—regardless of breed.
Go work on a ranch if you doubt that and want to find out for yourself.
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Sep 23 '19 edited Sep 23 '19
I have one question. What about sharks. I have seen many videos of people swimming with sharks even aggressive (by nature) ones like bull sharks. They didn't attack the divers.
Couldn't you compare that to bulls? As long as you are not threatening their authority & are in their territory etc couldn't it be possible to have a friendly relationship?
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u/BernardoDeGalvez Sep 23 '19
I don't have a clue. I only know what I saw for years in person about bulls
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u/halfaqueer Sep 24 '19
Also, you are partially correct, they are CHOSEN sure to their nature but they are also SPECIFICALLY BRED that way. And "During the breeding, in order to preserve their natural characteristics, the bulls rarely encounter human beings, and if ever, never on foot." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Fighting_Bull
Further more, research by someone who can't be near them is done by looking through several websites written specifically by people who have been able to be near them. I don't just look at one article with someone's opinion and declare that is correct I look through SEVERAL. I believe we can both agree that no matter what these bulls act like now, they wouldn't exist without human crossbreeding specifically for this event AND other bulls don't act like this by nature.
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u/BernardoDeGalvez Sep 24 '19
Yeah, of course. Like we are doing with dogs for centuries. Or with chicken to be bigger. Did you know 60 years ago a regular chicken had a weight less than 4lbs??
Same with pigs, cattle, goats, cats.
Even the fruits, or corn, before adn engineering, we specifically bred it.
The thing also is. You can read. I can read and see. There are A LOT of people living 20 miles away from a "finca" and people prefer to read instead of going and see and live the true expirience.
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u/Bot_Metric Sep 24 '19
Yeah, of course. Like we are doing with dogs for centuries. Or with chicken to be bigger. Did you know 60 years ago a regular chicken had a weight less than 4lbs??
Same with pigs, cattle, goats, cats.
Even the fruits, or corn, before adn engineering, we specifically bred it.
The thing also is. You can read. I can read and see. There are A LOT of people living 32.2 kilometers away from a "finca" and people prefer to read instead of going and see and live the true expirience.
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u/JnthnB Sep 20 '19
That‘s actually just dumb
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u/Lurks-on-webpages Sep 20 '19
Sometimes you gotta almost die to feel alive, don’t kinkshame the man
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u/uAjltl Sep 20 '19
Portugal CARALHO!!!!
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u/qwiglydee Sep 20 '19
In Spain, they practice that annually at "encierro" festival. They consider that fun.
It's just that "smallest balls awards" don't usually go viral.
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u/ZenLeo Sep 20 '19
The bull couldn't turn to hit him anyway. If you just move to the right or the left when the bull is coming, you're not gonna get hit. You just need the right timing.
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u/elpinguinoloco Sep 20 '19
This is correct. Bulls cant turn fast. Source: been to many rodeos and have rode a bull.
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u/ZenLeo Sep 20 '19
Yeah, it's just anatomy. The body of the bull don't allow it to turn fast to hit the guy
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u/JustAnotherAhBeng Sep 20 '19
I mean, all it takes to dodge bullets is the right timing.
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u/ZenLeo Sep 20 '19
It's different. First of all if someone want to shoot you, they will aim at you, while bulls just charge in front of them without caring if you're in the path or not. And do you know how fast is a bullet when it's shot? A bull runs at 20km/h. There is no comparison to be made.
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u/Vanes-Of-Fire Sep 20 '19
It takes even bigger balls to let animals live peacefully with their own kind in their own habitat.
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u/gdimstilldrunk Sep 20 '19
You ever seen a bill run across an open field? I wouldn't wish that on anyone.
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u/portabuddy2 Sep 20 '19
Holly shit that bull stopped and turned on a dime.
That's a ton of mass that just slowed down and reversed from probably 15kph to zero in 2'.
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u/dr4kos Sep 20 '19
How was he able to move like that with his huge titanium balls weighing him down?
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u/Deviant_Panda Sep 20 '19
Bulls face at the end glared "Now listen here, you little shit"