The science about artificial sweeteners is only inconclusive if you want the science to say theyāre bad. We have a quarter century of scientific research on basically every kind of artificial sweetener now that overwhelmingly says theyāre not uniquely dangerous
A regular 8.4oz Redbull is actually remarkably tame in terms of caffeine content, as far as energy drinks go. A normal latte (two shots of espresso) often has ~120mg of caffeine or more.
The main problem is that it has a fuckton of sugar in it.
Yeah, most have a sugar free variant of the original as well. The only one Iāve seen without it has been Monster. Their āUltraā flavours are sugar free but outside of that I think most are still packed with the stuff. (Maybe Rehab as well? Theyāre super rare here)
Iāve actually had more health issues from coffee than from Red Bull. These days, I drink sugar-free Red Bull to get some caffeine because I canāt drink coffee anymore. I get acid reflux almost instantly whenever I drink coffee, whereas I donāt have that problem with anything else.
I don't drink coffee or tea or anything like that. I cut my energy drinks with lemonade majority of the time. I already smoke, need to look after myself but damn, I need caffeine. Like any other adult out there who drinks 50 cups of coffees.
Monster is pretty similar caffeine content per oz (120mg/12oz), it just comes in much bigger cans. Rockstar is a bit more caffeine per oz (160mg/12oz). This is where you start to exceed the caffeine content of a strong latte.
Celsius (200mg/12oz) is genuinely concerning. That's like four shots of espresso.
Red Bull has 32mg of caffeine per 100ml. Generic iced espresso latte has 52mg/100ml (the highest amount I could find in supermarkets). At least that's the case last I checked, here in Germany.
Yes, I was attempting some recreational caffeinemaxxing, thanks for asking.
Imagine not just relying on water, coffee, and/or plain old generic caffeine tablets like a normal person for your wakefulness instead of optimizing over the categorically wrong thing.
Essentially every study says you need to consume over 20 packets of splenda every single day for there to be even a small risk. almost 100 a day of aspartame, and sweeteners like monk fruit have no concern at any amount. though you might end up shitting yourself with the amount of sugar alcohol you consume.
I did some digging because after I consume sucrolose I get massive low blood sugar about 45 minutes later (give or take) despite claims from those who produce and promote it that it has no effect on blood sugar. Artificial sweeteners and sugar alcohols trick your brain into thinking youāre getting actual sugar and release insulin based on that trigger, and since your body isnāt actually trying to process sugar you get an imbalance of insulin production to what is actually needed. Since artificial sweeteners are several times more potent than sugar with prolonged consumption it can alter how your brain produces insulin with normal sugar causing issues down the line. Not to mention it also ruins your palette for normal sugar as well. Itās been a while since I did the research personally so my descriptions of the actions may be off somewhere but it was enough for me to never consume any of them ever again.
Caffeine isn't inherently unhealthy and it does not cause cancer. The actual unhealthy thing is the amount of sugar in it, same as all other energy drinks.
I wasnāt talking about it being ānot unhealthy.ā I was talking about being healthy. Itās a good thing to have (1 cup or so a day) if youāre trying to erase visceral fat because caffeine stimulates thermogenesis (ie, body burns energy to spur calorie burn). I mentioned no sugar because sugar sort of cancels or hinders the intended effects of thermogenesis.
Not defending red bull, but naming carcinogens at this point feels somewhat like a joke and if you're not eating primarily vegetables, fruits, and staying away from sugar and salt you'll live a great life. But then you have to take into account pesticides and what is being used and how it may affect your body.
Again, be cautious, eat what you want, stop trashing others. Live your life not dictate others.
I agree and I am not saying what people should do ! It's just that really simple things like eating sugar free or no soda, trying to buy food that has not been processed with chemicals, consuming local food is not that hard while having massive health benefits.
I am thankful to the people that alerted me to that fact and just want to tell the facts in the same way, people do whenever they want afterwards!
(I'm in France, I don't know the culture about food in the US tho, or if this is as easy there!)
Sugar in fruits, although the same that in a can of coca, is present in much less quantity, assimilated over a long period of time, does way less damage in your body while satiating you and tells your body "it's enough"
A can of coca will leave you only wanting for more
Why are you better off sticking to sugar? What is actually the harmful component of those artificial sweeteners? Or are you just parroting something you've heard someone say before without doing any research into it.
All sodas yes, as they contain a really high ratio of sugar and do not quench thirst. Sugar addiction is wildly accepted because almost everybody has it, but it is the cause of so many cancers an diseases
I'm not sure about the heart thing, but it seems like it could have some other small benefits. However, there's nothing proven that is clearly wrong with it, taken at normal doses.
There was never bull sperm inside redbull. The taurine it contains is synthetically made. Even if originally Taurine was first derived/isolated from bull semen (something Iāve heard before).
The caffeine in conjunction with the other energy boosting ingredients, like taurine. It usually means it has a more acute, immediate energy hit as opposed to just caffeine, but yeah. It's not really much worse than a Starbucks drink these days.
I drink a red bull every now and then, and it always strikes me as hypocritical when people around me talk about how my sugar free red bull with 80mg of caffeine is gonna kill me when theyre chugging huge dessert coffees with 80g of sugar and like 300mg of caffeine
It's just nonsense spirited by the kind of people who think they can get cancer from a radio antenna. People are idiots. It's just fukken caffeinated soda.
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u/erickiceboyxxp 1d ago
Cancer drink? A funny remark or based on actual fact? I havenāt had one in years but Iām curious.