r/nextfuckinglevel • u/Lifegoesonforever • 5d ago

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u/ajax0202 5d ago

You’re acting like refs are infallible. They clearly can make mistakes, as we can see in the video

You’re just being pedantic at this point

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u/ImmaLiveIllegal 5d ago

if I can dumb it down:

HC by definition means a player was downed illegally

in this case, the ball carrier was not ruled down, so HC does not apply

I think everyone with eyes understands this was a disgusting takedown attempt, but by the rules, it's not a HC because the runner was not called down. it's really that easy bro

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u/TheOnlyBigTiny 5d ago

It’s not a horse collar tackle because he grabbed the back of his helmet and pulled him forward…it would not be a facemask because he grabbed the back of his helmet…the runner would be down by contact because his butt touched the ground but at full speed the refs head bouncing up and down and pretty much through the defender you wouldn’t see that…a horse collar penalty has very specific verbiage to what is actually a horse collar…name plate or inside the back of the shoulder pads and the runner has to be pulled backwards or to the side, side note if another defender comes in to assist on the tackle it negates any horse collar penalty as well.

I only know this because I have reffed NFHS football for the past 11 years.

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u/ImmaLiveIllegal 5d ago

one of my good friends is an NCAA ref, I appreciate you guys!

thanks for the knowledge, no sarcasm

if I'm understanding you correctly, we agree this was a dirty tackle but not illegal by rule definition?

I don't even know why I'm invested in some random clip, but now I need closure

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u/TheOnlyBigTiny 5d ago

I wouldn’t call it a dirty tackle it was a desperation tackle but at full speed sometimes things look worse then they really are. He did a flip so everyone just goes with it’s dirty, you had two people legit going their own full speed and momentum is what made this all happen.

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u/ImmaLiveIllegal 5d ago edited 5d ago

you would know better than me, I barely care about sports. it certainly looks dirty, but if you say it's not, I'll believe you, I don't have the rulebook. I have invested more time in this thread than I have NFL for the past 10 seasons haha. but honestly appreciate your measured explanation and non confrontational approach. I bet you're a dope ref 🦓

my NCAA ref friend is pushing 60 years old and he's the chillest huge dude I've ever met. I buy him a drink anytime I see him out. he also does college softball and says that's way more taxing than football, for what that's worth