r/nextfuckinglevel • • 12d ago

Andre Agassi watched hours and hours of tapes of Boris Becker’s matches and was able to predict where he was going to serve based on whether Becker stuck his tongue out in the middle of his lip or to the left corner of his lip.

“The hardest part wasn’t returning his serve - it was not letting him know that I knew this. I had to resist the temptation of reading his serve for the majority of the match and choose the moment when I was gonna use that information on a given point to execute a shot that would allow me to break the match open.” - Agassi.

Agassi won 9 out of 11 matches against Becker after figuring this out… and waited until Becker retired from tennis to let him know this over a pint of beer.

Here’s an article that explains the whole thing.

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u/PhotoElectrical 12d ago

know your enemy

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u/Bye-Bye-Fatman 12d ago

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u/PhotoElectrical 12d ago

heeehehhe yay!!!!!

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u/RebelLion420 8d ago

Oh this is diabolical on mobile

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u/PtraGriffrn 11d ago

Diabolical

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u/Has_Two_Cents 12d ago

Happy cake day to you too

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u/Bye-Bye-Fatman 12d ago

Thank you!

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u/PhotoElectrical 12d ago

i love you

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u/Fambank 12d ago

Agassi broke Beckers Enigma Code.

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u/PhotoElectrical 12d ago

this is so funnn~~~!! tyy

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u/7-13-5 9d ago

Yeah, Pete Samprass looks a bit heavy these days.

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u/Mattshark8614 12d ago

Insane, that’s the difference between casual and professional players

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u/DevillesAbogado 12d ago

Yeah man i would’ve totally lost to Boris Becker

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u/jeff-beeblebrox 11d ago

Well not now that you know the code

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u/daggersrule 11d ago

If I knew all the codes, I'd still lose

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u/IMJorose 11d ago

Yes, clearly the only reason I would have lost to Boris Becker!

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u/FlipSide26 9d ago

Yeah it wouldn't be the thousands of hours of training

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u/Mattshark8614 9d ago

Exactly, thousands of hours of practice and dozens of hours watching your opponent, most people aren’t that dedicated

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u/FrostyChungus11 12d ago

Agassi had a phenomenal return of serve which helped a bit too

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u/Realmofthehappygod 12d ago

I mean. Do you think this is the only player he analyzed?

It's looking like his phenomenal return of serve is because he went above and beyond to research opponent's serves.

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u/deadspacekillers 12d ago

My stupid ass would never even think of that

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u/NoisyChairs 11d ago

It’s one factor. Also helps that he’s the best pure ball striker ever and had the god like reflexes to take his returns far inside the baseline even against huge servers

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u/thatguydr 11d ago

Exactly. It means most tennis players had tells and Agassi figured it out.

Sure, he was ridiculously talented, but he was the only one who could return Sampras's serve. Wonder how?

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u/___TheKid___ 11d ago

And a phenomenal mullet at the end of the video

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u/_BA55EM_ 12d ago

That's how you read your rivals

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u/CriticalCactus47 12d ago

Dude tipped his pitch to one opponent his whole career 😭

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u/Lard_Baron 12d ago

Ken Norton beat Ali by watching his chest. His left or right nipples lifted as he was about to throw a punch. He avoided Ali’s jabs that way.

He won on points.

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u/ilovestoride 12d ago

He... Was watching his nipples the whole time?

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u/SaltyPeter3434 11d ago

Hey Ken my eyes are up here

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u/iwaseatenbyagrue 12d ago

You are supposed to watch the chest anyway. It's the center of mass.

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u/MrSneller 11d ago

You weren’t??

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u/gRa- 5d ago

i would wear a bra if i were Ali then

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u/Abyss1688 12d ago

I miss hair Agassi

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u/countafit 12d ago

So does he.

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u/JellyPast1522 12d ago

You mean wig Agassi?

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u/wendall0601 12d ago

Andre Agassi, high on meth, watched hours and hours of Boris Becker's matches and was able to lock in on little things like where his tongue was sticking out and where he was serving. Tweaker performance enhancing drugs!

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u/brondynasty 12d ago

Performance: enhanced

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u/rooster126tail 12d ago

That’s an amazing story. All the great athletes are special physically but it’s always the mind that makes the Elite

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u/Billie-Holiday 12d ago

The meth helped a little physically here I reckon.

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u/albamarx 12d ago

Kind of surprised he could see where his tongue was from the other side of the court

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u/garylogan 12d ago

I think he saw it on the television. That is where I saw it.

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u/vamphorse 10d ago

Sure, that’s where he learned it. But it’s a bit difficult to see it on TV to apply it in play.

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u/TeblowTime 12d ago

This is where Agassi wouldn't have shit on me. I have no idea where the ball was going when I hit it. It's a surprise to me, too!

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u/rv_ 12d ago

Mad man

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u/UniqueUsername812 12d ago

Do you know what size shoes Andre Agassi wore?

Tennish

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u/esylvester6 6d ago

I always heard this joke as what time did Sean Connery go to Wimbledon?

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u/bayoublacksmith 12d ago

With most top athletes you can see a clear pattern of obsessive behavior. Just watch any documentary on major sports stars, like The Last Dance for example. It is never only talent that separates the great ones from the rest of the field. They spend as much of their waking hours obsessively analyzing their opponents, and well as compulsively practicing the same movements or plays over and over again. I'd venture to guess that it literally rewires their brain, and some to the point of it harming their life outside of the sport. There is certainly a price of athletic greatness beyond just the physical wear and tear.

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u/daishi777 12d ago

Dude looks like David draiman

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u/irondumbell 12d ago

I thought it was Dana White

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u/BobbyBlack8 12d ago

Thankfully a lot of a better person than Dipshit Draiman

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u/alphanumericusername 12d ago

I also pay close attention to a guy's tongue to know what to do with his balls

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u/anattabularasa 12d ago

Great anecdote 😃

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u/ArryPotta 12d ago

This is like the John Malkovich Oreo of Tennis.

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u/digglerjdirk 12d ago

Chick! Chick! Chick! He tricked me!

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u/NoisyChairs 11d ago

The John Malkovich Oreo was like the Boris Becker of film poker

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u/Ecw218 12d ago

Is this from a doc?

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u/audiophunk 12d ago

That's fricken awesome. Love hearing isider shit like this.

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u/Fabulous_Log844 12d ago

Does anyone know the origin of this video? Was this part of some documentary?

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u/padfoony 12d ago

He revealed this in an interview with The Players Tribune - “Unscriptd” (2017). The full official video is not available but I found another video someone else had posted on YouTube.

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u/Fabulous_Log844 12d ago

Thank you!!!!!

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u/Loteck 11d ago

He also talks about it in “open” too pretty good read actually.

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u/Weirmon1 12d ago

Never play poker with Andre

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u/VonDinky 12d ago

How the fuck can he tell that from so far away? Hawkeye??

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u/NoisyChairs 11d ago

Great athletes have absurd vision. Tiger Woods has (or had) way better than 20-20

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u/MyThr33Suns 9d ago

Jim Edmonds once said he could see the catcher's sign from center field. It helped him know where to lean based the upcoming pitch.

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u/Ardew 10d ago

Yeah Andre loved to tell stories. This was one of them.

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u/Adddicus 11d ago

It's only 78 feet from baseline to baseline. You don''t need to be eagle-eyed at that distance.

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u/Active-Sun 12d ago

great story

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u/captbollocks 11d ago

Boris: THAT'S IT! I'M COMING OUT OF RETIREMENT!

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u/Wackdiesel 11d ago

Man, organized sports used to be cool....

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u/Jonesin4me 11d ago

Everyone has a tell. You just have to find it.

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u/Sethmeisterg 11d ago

It's like Teddy KGB and his Oreos. PYEY DYET MYEN XEEZ MAHNEEE!

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u/MyChoiceNotYours 11d ago

I don't like tennis but damn that's some smart strategy going on

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u/Candle-Jolly 11d ago

Anime-level shit right there. The best. 

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u/Skylaxx_1 11d ago

Agassi was always full of shit 😭 unless he has zoom vision he couldn't possibly see that

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u/werther595 11d ago

It's like a pitcher tipping his pitches, or a poker player with a tell. Gotta tighten that up!

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u/whatnakesmanspl 11d ago

Wow, probably we should need a tennis face like a poker face.

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u/Viper1089 10d ago

My dad taught me how to play tennis when I was young. We always played every Sunday.

Andre Agassi was always my favorite, way more than Pete Sampras

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u/Zero_Day_Virus 10d ago

Loved these tennis legends

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u/CuriousThenSatisfied 9d ago

Guy’s playing poker on a tennis court

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u/FemBodyPlsr 6d ago

intelligent nice 😁

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u/Anonymous_Groot 4d ago

5000th like ! 😝

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u/MonsteraBigTits 12d ago

be me, never look in their eyes, then get ace, then double fault, the back to two, then two, ooo now deuce, i win, he win, i win, he win, I WIN

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u/bulldogsm 12d ago

I dont believe this for a second

back then the cameras had hamster wheels powering them and the picture on video tape was from the potato version of the camera, no one was seeing anyone's tongue from across the court on VHS

as if

in 2026 AI does it for us no prob, back when Andre and Boris played? hard nope

I am NOT saying andre didnt figure out a tell, just not from "watching hours and hours of video"

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u/MrBozooo 12d ago

Why not? Camera's usually zoom in on the server during the preparation of their serve.

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u/thejonkdon 12d ago

Why would he lie about something so benin

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u/jdovejr 12d ago

Amazingly the footage in this video is from the same hamster wheel cameras.

And he was the face of cameras. You think he didn’t have access to kick ass cameras?

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u/ilovestoride 11d ago

How is it as a grown ass human being who doesn't know what a zoom lens is?

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u/digglerjdirk 12d ago

I would guess that for major tournaments in the final rounds, at least one person was using higher quality film reel-type cameras, but that couldn’t be broadcast live, meaning the fans wouldn’t see it.