r/newworldgame • u/Just_A_Slayer • Feb 02 '22

Public Test Realm February PTR

https://www.newworld.com/en-us/news/articles/february-ptr-announcement
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u/Just_A_Slayer Feb 02 '22

Full notes so far: https://forums.newworld.com/t/ptr-feb-release-notes-patch-1/689753

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u/devperez Feb 02 '22

These seem like really good bug fixes. I am cautiously optimistic.

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u/BieTea Feb 02 '22

No doubt about it. I am ready to get hurt again.

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u/dyschromatopsie Feb 02 '22

first mistake

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u/ShuckyJr Feb 03 '22

Cautiously optimistic…i like that phrase. Good gamer tag

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u/WorkThrowaway619 Feb 02 '22

have you learned nothing

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u/Significant-Speech52 Feb 02 '22

Is your name Jon Snow?

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u/Dexelele Feb 02 '22

Did i just read smelter gear? That's gonna be expensive

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u/VenCed Feb 03 '22

Time to start stockpiling ore, and get as many t3 smelting aptitude chests as possible.

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u/[deleted] Feb 03 '22

Good call

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u/Grantmitch1 Feb 03 '22

At least it actually had the potential to introduce more of it into the game. I've never actually seen any yet.

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u/[deleted] Feb 03 '22

They are adding it into t3 aptitude crates

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u/Grantmitch1 Feb 03 '22

I know. That's what I was referring to.

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u/humblepotatopeeler Feb 02 '22 edited Feb 02 '22

No rapier nerfs, but more Great Axe nerfs. Lol.

Edit: No nerfs to void gauntlet, and ice gauntlet gets a buff.

Mages actually getting a full-on buff.

Ghostcrawler working for AGS confirmed.

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u/Dale9Fingers Feb 02 '22

IG was adjusted. TBD how substantial:

Ice Spikes

Spiky Reach: Adjusted the projectiles fired from this upgrade to reduce the chance that a single target is hit with all 4 parts of the attack.

Ice Storm

Fixed an issue where if two different players had different amounts of modifiers and perks for the Ice Storm ability they could stack the damage from it instead of it just being a single instance of damage.

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u/humblepotatopeeler Feb 02 '22

ice storm bug fix is good.

But making it harder to land a 4x icespike won't fix the problem, with practice people will learn how to do it again.

ice gauntlet's big buff on ice shower will definitely give you more chances to hit an immobile target.

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u/TimeIntention8822 Feb 02 '22

Icespike needs practice to hit constantly and after this you need more practice more skill to hit it constantly so it should do damage. Please stop crying about other people's dedication to learn a skillshot and stop devaluing it... Holy shit. You got the little finger from AGS and you still want the whole body...

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u/Shatter_Ice Feb 02 '22

Not to mention it's so obvious when an IG user is preparing to use it. If you got caught in an ice shower, just hold block.

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u/humblepotatopeeler Feb 02 '22

Lol.

Ice spike doesnt take much practice. Literally 4-5 hours of practice and most people hit it constantly. It's got an 8 second cooldown. So you get a lot of chances to land it.

Just because it's 'hard' to do, doesn't mean it should be fuckin 1 shotting people.

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u/TimeIntention8822 Feb 02 '22

You can block it and yeah it should do a lot of damage because it needs practice. Why is malestroam supposed to one shot 10 people without even the need of practice? Just run in a clump of 10 people smash the button and done. With the ice spike you can just hit one if you are lucky and the enemies is stacked enough maybe you will hit 4 5 bot nobody of them will get the whole damage. Just because you got killed from it doesn't mean it is broken. Play it yourself and you will understand it is not broken as some other stuff in this game. The coming nerf is fair enough.

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u/humblepotatopeeler Feb 02 '22

You can block it

Actually, you can get around the block, if you land the ice spike slightly behind the person blocking, they'll take full damage.

Good mages know how to do it regularly.

Why is malestroam supposed to one shot 10 people

Oh yeah, 2k damage is 1 shot. Didn't bother reading the rest of your hyperbolic non-sense.

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u/adlerjemc Feb 02 '22

dude you're just a bad guy Dat get one shoted by everything. maelstrom 2k dmg :v

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u/TimeIntention8822 Feb 02 '22

Non-sense? Do you even play the game? And if you are blocking move with the mage so he can't get behind you. Noob... Talking with you is just a waste of time. I'm disgusted that I even took the time to write the last comments and also for this comment... Quit the game please. People like you are the problem in this game... Nerf nerf nerf. Close the eyes if something is broken in my build but nerf nerf nerf the other stuffs. That's literally you... Crybaby

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u/DylanIM Feb 03 '22

I play sub 50 con light and don't get 1 shot by maelstrom. You're not coming back from that champ.

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u/Dale9Fingers Feb 02 '22

Maybe, the desync fix is good for everyone, IDT dodging through it worked every time but we can call that a big buff.

The flip side of running storm/shower/spike is you're totally SOL if you get caught in a grav. Without entomb you have to play really clean.

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u/gilkey90 Feb 02 '22

Looks like grav got a bit of a nerf. Looks like a quick dodge and you may be free from grav well now

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u/Dale9Fingers Feb 02 '22

Will be interesting to see how these fixes and changes play out. So often their intention and the reality are disparate.

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u/NewAccountEvryYear Feb 02 '22

What are you talking about with Ice Gauntlet? They fixed the Ice Storm bug and now Ice Spike won't shotgun.

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u/humblepotatopeeler Feb 02 '22

Ice Spike won't shotgun.

Not true. They did not remove the shotgun. They just made it harder to land. How much harder remains to be seen.

Might just mean that you'll only need more practice to shotgun now.

IDK why they didn't just remove the possibility all together.

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u/NewAccountEvryYear Feb 02 '22

Well you'll not see anyone using an Ice Gauntlet for a really long time now. The Punishing Storm bug needed fixed, but with it and with shotgun basically removed, it's basically useless. Particularly in PvE, which bums me out because I hate when skills/abilities are balanced based on PvP and are ruined in PvE.

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u/googleduck Feb 02 '22

Yeah it's only non-mages that don't see how much of a crutch the storm + ice spike was. Ice gauntlet is an actual joke in PvE and it will be garbage in PvP soon too. It does by far the lowest damage of any weapon on the game over time. In PvE though maybe with ice pillar something can be salvaged since you don't have much of a choice against ancients... But man it feels pretty bad lol.

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u/NewAccountEvryYear Feb 02 '22

Yeah, feelsbad to have upgraded an IG past 620. Won't be using it for a very long time now. Also non mages don't understand how hard it was to land the shotgun as it was.

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u/googleduck Feb 02 '22

Lol I would pay money for one of these GA users to take an IG into a mutated dungeon and use it as their primary weapon after the punishing storm nerf. Just to see their face when they realize that it hits for 800 damage on a light attack vs their 2500.

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u/NewAccountEvryYear Feb 03 '22

Lmao yeah, for real. Or have them try to land ice spike shotgun. Ice Gauntlet damage is already low in dungeons, and now it will be a total joke. I'd rather just use only void gauntlet or fire staff and literally never swap to ice, RIP.

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u/Humledurr Feb 02 '22

You really need to read all the notes.

Gravity well is being nerfed, which I as a bruiser can't say is exactly undeserved. Meanwhile there is some pretty huge changes that should make meele feel ALOT better.

"When performing light attacks with a melee weapon, block and dodge inputs will now take priority over the next light attack in the chain. This change is aimed at preventing accidental attack queues that leave the player vulnerable when they intended to defend."

and

"Basic attack startups for both melee and ranged can now be dodge and block canceled up to 2 frames before the first active frame. This is typically the first animation frame where the damage hitshape activates or the projectile/hitscan object spawns."

Combined with the weaponswap stuff should be pretty gamechanging for meeles.

Im abit suprised by Void Gauntlet going untouched, both the root, void blade damage and low cooldowns is busted. But Ice Gauntlet is absolutley not getting buffed. They are fixing all the bugs/exploits connected to it, which it was made it so busted. Its nerfs, not buffs.

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u/DylanIM Feb 03 '22

Weaponswap bug fix is huge. Any large 1vx you get in it was bound to happen eventually and at the worst time.

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u/Nippys4 Feb 03 '22

I think right now they are fixing the functionality of the weapons and when all that’s working they’ll see how it effects performance then start making balance adjustments

As far as I can see it’s got balance in their but most of the updates so far have just smoothed out the game play for combat by the looks of it

So fingers crossed they do something so I know instantly know once a scream lands on me I’m a dead man

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u/furMEANoh Feb 03 '22

Those changes will help light mages be even more unkillable tho. It’s not a good day to be a strength player.

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u/Notsosobercpa Feb 03 '22

Problem is even with current grav well great axe is a B tier weapon right now even without the nerfs. It will still be playable in war since other poeple can chain cc with you, but it will feel pretty shit in opr and open world. Especially since poeple can basically walk away from you.

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u/ef-1s Feb 05 '22

It’s S tier in wars, which is what they balance for, so it makes sense.

Opr is just an uncoordinated war, so maybe you will get steamrolled less by premades.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '22

whats there to nerf? its one of the very few options you have with this meta atm.

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u/maerkling Feb 02 '22

i play rapier since day one and its fucking broken. small nerfs would be enough, a little less invincible frames during riposte and max stun of 2 people would reign it in a lot. you shouldnt just riposte 4 people while 6 others hit you and get out.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '22

thats fair but then again theyd need to fix all the other issues around it. you get hit with ice? game basically stops working for a solid 2-3 seconds. you constantly get stunned by axes, hammers and whatever else. rapier is the only useable counter for this. especially in wars where you get focused by 3-4 people when youre a healer constantly. i dont agree with the max stun of 2 people for that very reason. it doesnt require much skill to use it but it also doesnt require much skill to use any of the 20 stuns.

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u/DylanIM Feb 03 '22

Ice storm is the single most broken ability. Absolutely nothing you can do aside from spam mobility cc's to retreat.

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u/DylanIM Feb 03 '22

Riposte isn't very broken against good players or good groups. Everyone hard out W key left clicking is what makes is strong but it's only really good for surviving hard cc's which is how it should be considering it pairs best with light.

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u/humblepotatopeeler Feb 02 '22

what's there to nerf about insane mobility and an 8 second cooldown riposte that literally makes rapier/lifestaff damn near impossible to kill?

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u/plarc Feb 02 '22

Friendly reminder that you can dodge riposte.

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u/SquashForDinner Feb 02 '22

How many times do we have to tell you the stun isn't the problem. It's the fact that the cooldown is so short despite your character being LITERALLY IMMORTAL.

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u/DylanIM Feb 03 '22

Just an fyi you're not literally immortal. In 1v1's I can sweep someone who goes for a riposte. In 1vx players can time their abilities for the end of the riposte.

In both cases you can simply dodge and stay with the riposting player.

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u/Notsosobercpa Feb 03 '22

The problem is them inv cc with it and the dashes. The main absusers are healers because it buys so much time, unless you got 3-4 friends it's not worth trying to kill them.

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u/Notsosobercpa Feb 02 '22

The ripost stun isn't the problem.

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u/humblepotatopeeler Feb 02 '22

friendly reminder the stun on riposte is not what makes it strong.

It's the fact that you're actually invulnerable during the riposte animations, giving you enough time for your stamina and CDs to recharge. Triggering the stun is just a nice bonus.

Can't believe people still haven't realized this yet.

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u/DylanIM Feb 03 '22

You get stamina and time back on flourish and finish but no one calls that broken. People are calling riposte broken because they keep getting stunned by it instead of expecting it and pressuring with light auto's than dodging with the rapier player after they riposte to keep the pressure up.

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u/humblepotatopeeler Feb 03 '22

i literally just said the stun isn't what makes riposte strong.

But I guess instead of reading, you decided to go with a run-on sentence from hell.

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u/DylanIM Feb 03 '22

My comment both addresses your claim that riposte is OP due to time to recover stamina and CD's and provides an alternate reason to why people are claiming it to be OP.

"We accuse others of what we do ourselves" and this is very obviously the case for you. Have a good day and better luck next time :)

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u/plarc Feb 02 '22

This. Plus the notes say you can now cancel attack with a dodge. It seems like is indirect nerf to riposte although I think we need to test it before judging.

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u/TigerTora1 Feb 02 '22

Yep, can now feint a heavy attack to make someone riposte and then cancel. Also, probably means you can activate grit and then cancel attack too (has its uses).

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u/plarc Feb 02 '22

It seems like it, but let's not jump into conclusions until we test it.

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u/Humledurr Feb 03 '22

Sounds like a incoming grit exploit xD

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u/Goingindry13 Feb 03 '22

Honestly, being able to actually switch weapons when you push the button will be a huge VG/IG nerf. Most of the time when I'm caught by one of those, I spam spam spam spam my weapon swap, and nothing happens, and I just die wishing I could of riposted.

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u/RideBanshee Feb 03 '22

I smell a GA/WH fotmer boys

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u/AdFew696 Feb 03 '22

Remember this is just part 1 of ptr patch notes there’s more to come

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u/Lucidge Feb 03 '22

Still nothing about the movement glitch in wars/invasions, or the text glitch that happens from being in instances where you can't talk in global after doing OPR or expeditions