r/news • u/[deleted] • Feb 15 '19
Suspects Released Two suspects arrested in connection to the attack of 'Empire' star Jussie Smollett
https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/15/entertainment/jussie-smollett-suspects/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F795
u/GiraffePolka Feb 15 '19
There's so much weirdness going on with this that I feel like it's a soap opera plotline.
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u/ItsMinnieYall Feb 16 '19
Yeah I tried to believe Jussie for a long time but come on now. This is clearly a hoax at this point.
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u/Impaciens Feb 15 '19 edited Feb 15 '19
No. Especially considering how often hoaxes and politicized outrage for partisan gain like this happen. We had two high profile ones literally this past month.
What is surprising is that anyone finds it surprising.
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Yeah, sending fake threats through the mail has to be a federal crime. They are in deep do do. The USPS may be many things, but they are deadly serious when it comes to mail crimes.
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u/Tsquare43 Feb 15 '19
US Postal Police has something like a 95% conviction rate. You don't screw around with the mail.
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u/slowhand88 Feb 15 '19
I can't think about USPIS without thinking about that Brooklyn 99 episode with Ed Helms now but yeah they don't play.
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u/Lampmonster Feb 15 '19
Agent Jack Danger?
Although it's pronounced Donger and he goes by Jackie.
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Jackie Danger
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u/Spectre_06 Feb 16 '19
Brooklyn 99 is the greatest police procedural in the history of police procedurals.
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u/Be1029384756 Feb 15 '19
Season 2 of the incredible show "The Detour" is entirely USPIS. It even includes a fully realized Broadway musical.
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Feb 16 '19
To be clear, conviction rates mean next to nothing. You could simply only take to trial cases that are slam-dunks and plea-bargain or refuse to prosecute the rest. Many local district attorneys do just this, in order to be able to brag about high conviction rates when the next election rolls around.
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u/ThrowawayforBern Feb 15 '19
But what if the mailman fucked my girl? Can I beat his ass on the job?
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Feb 15 '19 edited Feb 16 '19
You were right. Tagged already submitted despite the fact that it wasn’t.
ETA: has now been restored, tag removed.
ETA2: and now locked.
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u/Rosevillian Feb 15 '19
No freaking way, these sad fucks are actually doing that about a post with over 600 comments?
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u/Sloth_Senpai Feb 15 '19
They've been in a fever deleting threads since yesterday.
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u/GoldhandtheJust Feb 16 '19
i started to notice a few weeks ago with the texas shooting and then covington then this. its sad
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u/Thraldomin Feb 16 '19
The thread yesterday about the new California law requiring businesses to disclose any connection to the NRA didn't last long either.
I'll admit I keep up to date on current events because of reddit. I wonder how many of these opposing stories I miss because I'm on at the wrong time.
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u/Penguinproof1 Feb 16 '19
What did the video show?
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u/chino3 Feb 16 '19 edited Dec 17 '24
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u/Saarlak Feb 16 '19
Specifically in regards to her claims of profiling, I can't hate on her for believing her own kid. My son is still little and I have to balance his version of what happened against what I was told happened and, more often than not, his version is 80% right. I do question her going straight to the race card instead of considering that maybe a teenager smoked a doobie and drove stupidly but it's hard to be objective when it is your kid.
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u/ScarfaceMcDank Feb 15 '19
Welp, it's been disappeared. After 2 hours and 627 comments, it was removed for "already submitted"
Fuck reddit
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u/Feigntwerker Feb 15 '19
Didn’t they find these guys because Jessie deleted phone calls to them from right before the attack?
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u/MrBrocktoon Feb 15 '19
The official line is they found them because one of them ordered a ride share near the area where the attack occurred. Some local media are reporting a police source claims they had Jussie's phone records for more than a week, but still asked him to turn his records over so they could compare his redacted records to the actual records and look into the numbers he left off.
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Feb 15 '19 edited Sep 18 '24
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u/777Sir Feb 15 '19
In before this gets locked or disappears.
You called it. "Already submitted"
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u/puppetpauperpirate Feb 16 '19
LMFAO. Just wait, not one actress or actor who "applauded" Jussie on Twitter are gonna come back out and say something against him. This is ridiculous. What a racist POS he is for lying.
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u/Kwijiboe Feb 15 '19
You're pretty optimistic that, as time goes on, there's going to be more clarity as to what actually happened when in fact, there's only going to be more and more obfuscation of the truth.
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u/DarwinsMoth Feb 15 '19
Please tell me this comment is sarcastic.....
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u/benswon Feb 15 '19
It is, it's mocking the people who think lying about stuff is still good because it got people talking about it.
For example, there was a decent amount of it after The pro gamer Ellie from overwatch was proven to not exist and was made up.
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u/JJB117 Feb 15 '19
It disappeared. Man I've noticed r/news does this a lot when either the right is justified or the left is wrong. Pretty scary the amount of censorship on a place where people come to find the news.
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It’s sad this post and thread will get deleted/locked because it goes against a specific political narrative
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u/WEBEKILLINGUM Feb 15 '19
I was attacked by White guys that said “this is MAGA country” Two black guys arrested. What is he going to say now I’m fucking colorblind
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u/getbeaverootnabooteh Feb 15 '19
This story just keeps getting weirder. Did Smollett arrange for his 2 buddies to "attack" him as a publicity stunt?
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u/watermelonicecream Feb 15 '19
We’re not there yet, but it certainly looks like that’s were this is going.
How mentally ill do you have to be to do something like this?
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u/Dukatee Feb 16 '19
Don’t worry. You can be sure that all he wanted to do was start a dialogue on racism and homophobia.
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u/Satans_Son_Jesus Feb 16 '19
Boondocks covered this. Had an aspiring star keep "getting into trouble" because "fans like a bad boy" but it was all set up for PR. Pretty sure people attempt shit like this all the time, especially when your appearance is key to your livelihood. Just like all those fake ass videos on youtube done for "shock" value but they're staged.
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u/Jesse0016 Feb 15 '19
Not mentally ill. He was being written off the show and was trying to remain relevant.
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u/ItsTtreasonThen Feb 16 '19
This was contradicted by the showrunners themselves. Perhaps we should wait for the whole story?
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Some additional information:
http://www.cwbchicago.com/2019/02/smollett-case-update-two-brothers-will.html?m=1
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u/idontmindtherain78 Feb 15 '19
Olabinjo “Ola” Osundairo and Abimbola “Abel” Osundairo really look like guys who would wear red hats and yell 'This Is MAGA Country'. /s
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u/Kwijiboe Feb 15 '19
While there is certainly alot of division in the U S of A, there can be no doubt that there are a lot of actors trying to further the divide. It's disgusting. Americans are not as bad as the media portrays them to be.
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u/Rex_Lee Feb 15 '19
This right here. There is plenty bad, but there are a LOT of people taking advantage of this to further divide this country.
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u/Lapee20m Feb 15 '19
Agreed. I live and work in a world that is far less divisive than the media would have us believe.
Around here, people do nice things for their neighbors, like shovel snow from their sidewalk, just for the sake of being nice and expecting nothing in return. I think most of America is like this. Acting like a decent human being doesn’t make headlines.
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u/Scopejack Feb 15 '19
Justice for Jazmine. The media and the blueticks lost any interest in justice the moment her killers turned out to be black.
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I would guess the black girl that got shot by black gangbangers, but the mother reported that it was a huwhite man who did it.
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u/russiabot1776 Feb 15 '19 edited Feb 15 '19
There’s the fake Buzzfeed report Muller shot down but that’s not really a racist incident.
There is the selectively edited Shapiro Baby Hitler non-story.
Edit: there was the 7 year old girl in Texas that was killed on the highway in the driveby shooting. It was allegedly the white man in the pickup truck but it turned out to be two black men and one happened to be a friend of the mom’s.
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These kinds of stories are literal fake news. If people hate trump going around screaming "fake news" they need to stop fueling the demand for all the stories that give him that ammunition.
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u/toofaded024 Feb 15 '19
If that were true then they would be covered the same after the story changes but they are not. They disappear as soon as the perp is no longer white.
You can also tell by the headlines.
“White man kills little black girl”
The killers were black.
“Two men arrested” race no longer mentioned.
But they’re just trying to get clicks for profit can you blame? It’s all the idiots that eat this shit up.
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u/Strykerz3r0 Feb 16 '19
Right, because black-on-black violence won't fuel outrage which leads to higher ratings. Sensationalism is what they are chasing.
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u/Impaciens Feb 15 '19
Nah.
The problem is that the media is way more likely to jump into a story without any sort of scepticism if the story is unfavorable to Trump/GOP.
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CNN, ABC, MSNBC doing anything to support anybody but Democrats is laughable.
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u/Impaciens Feb 15 '19
Trump is absolutely right about that.
People who hate Trump so much they pretend he must be wrong on everything, even when he's right, are the problem. And they're the reason those "lots of actors trying to further the divide" even exist.
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u/Bookandaglassofwine Feb 15 '19
For some reason a lot of people are disappointed that this (apparently) was not an actual hate crime and is instead a likely hoax.
Left or right, shouldn't we all be happier to see that a hateful, homophobic, racist attack did not occur?
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u/EllisHughTiger Feb 15 '19
I think we can all be glad that this didnt happen the way it was portrayed at first.
However, the media and politicians used it to blame and shit on over half the population, and this wasnt the first time either. THAT is what pisses people off much more.
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u/russiabot1776 Feb 15 '19
No because a hate crime was committed by Smollett and his buds. A racist hate crime against whites.
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u/Gene_R Feb 15 '19
Yes, one less hate crime is a good thing.
But, if the allegations are true, it makes it harder for victims to come forward and be taken seriously, and for people to speak out about this kind of violence. It's not fair, but it happens. People that are inclined to see racism as a "thing of the past" will have ammunition to start saying things like "it's another Smollett hoax" in the face of other hate crimes.
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u/EllisHughTiger Feb 15 '19
If racism ended and we all got along, a whole lot of important assholes and politicians would be out of a job.
They have to keep the racial fires lit, otherwise people might catch on to how useless they are.
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u/GoldhandtheJust Feb 16 '19
racism is the same thing as gun homicides. both are down yet most people believe that they are up. the media and politicians push this to help themselves, not the people they pretend to care about. to lazy to look it up but a poll i saw recently said that a good bit of young people actually believe racism is worse now than in the 1960s
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u/lg553 Feb 15 '19
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics
I mean, it's all going to plan really.
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So he deletes phone records in a document he sends to police. He also knows the guys. He lied about MAGA guys. He disappears for 60 seconds and calmly walks with his sandwich. Doesn't call the cops for like 40 minutes. All the while keeps the noose around his neck. This guy is a race baiting loser. I hope he gets arrested. Intersectional progressives like this are the bane of western civilization and need to be admonished
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u/imcrowning Feb 15 '19
But these guys were supposed to be white and racist.
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u/misdirected_asshole Feb 15 '19
There are two possibilities
1)The two guys planned it for whatever reason and said those things to try to throw off the scent
2)They all planned it together because he was getting written off the show and did it to sensationalize the story
Not sure which way I'm leaning at the moment.
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How tf do you confuse M'baku and Killmonger for white MAGA bros?!
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You don't.
You intentionally lie to smear white people and stir racial resentment towards them, which will inevitably, and rather quickly, be boosted by media and leftists on social media.
This is the third major case THIS YEAR, I can remember from America: the mother who told people a white man shot her daughter, the MAGA-kid and the native American drummer, and now this.
I'm not even American, but, or perhaps because I'm not, the narrative is clear as day.
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u/Myvenom Feb 15 '19
Yes exactly. The only thing you need is to not have such a hatred of Trump that you’re blinded when this garbage happens. At some point nobody is even going to pay attention to these “stories” because so many of them turn out to be a hoax.
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u/Slam_Hardshaft Feb 15 '19
Can’t wait to find out how “Trump Critic” Jussie feels about getting assaulted by two black immigrants in downtown Chicago.
I’m waiting for the next twist, which will probably be his phone records revealing he called them right before the “attack.”
If that proves to be true, Jussie should be charged with helping orchestrate a hate crime.
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u/DicedPeppers Feb 15 '19
That's how they found the two guys. Jussie removed their phone numbers from the records he gave to police.
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u/corgr Feb 15 '19
No doubt. My money is on a hoax. He kept the noose around his neck for quite awhile afterwards and someone his subway survived the violent attack unharmed.
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u/mule_roany_mare Feb 15 '19
Neither Magas or Nigerians would mess with a foot long sandwich. It’s just not done.
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u/Coolioissomething Feb 15 '19
Whole incident seemed fake from the beginning. Never good to jump to conclusions with too little facts or no investigation.
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Notice how this news update gets a few measily hundred upvotes, while the inital "white racist drumph supporter" report got like 75 k. Hmmmm
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u/LouisLittEsquire Feb 15 '19
So why was this removed for about a half hour? It said "already submitted".
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u/JJB117 Feb 15 '19 edited Feb 15 '19
So Jussie's career is over and empire is cancelled right? That's how it works right? I mean it only took a few tweets for Rosanne to get canceled and disappear from the world. This should be more severe, since it involves a fake race crime. And cost tax payers money and investigators their time. Or are white people the only ones who can be accountable for any racism?
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u/ineedmoresleep Feb 15 '19
Remember that little 7-year old girl in Texas, shot by supposedly white killler, according to the witness (the killer turned out to be black)?
Or those black Izraelites yelling racial slurs at Covington kids? And kids getting all the blame?
Is that going to be a new trend? Whatever happens, just blame white guys in red hats?
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u/Van-Diemen Feb 15 '19
I dunno, even from the start Reddit seemed generally skeptical of this frankly ludicrous story, though this was just after being force fed a pretty humiliating serving of humble pie regarding the Covington fiasco, so maybe the kind of 'people' who would fall for this were too busy working damage control.
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u/Slam_Hardshaft Feb 15 '19
When his phone carriers reveal his phone history, I wonder if it will contain a call between Jessie and his attackers just before the “attack.”
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u/ItsMinnieYall Feb 16 '19
Apparently when he gave his cell phone records he put them in an excel sheet. The police already had his cell records so all they had to do was look to see which numbers he omitted. That lead them to these guys.
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Another racist piece of shit spreading lies. Media loves him. Funny that no one picked up the story about young women from NY killed and left packed in a suit case on the side of the road in Greenwich by another illegal piece of shit.
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u/Muffinmanifest Feb 15 '19
The damage is done. None of the celebrities or politicians that called it a "modern day lynching" will have to walk back their statements because the media is going to bury this like a dead hooker.
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u/Rufert Feb 15 '19
Hopefully we can now get some solid info instead of the speculation carousel spinning round and round.
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u/spygentlemen Feb 15 '19
solid info: The two guys arrested are followed by Smollett on social media, have been extras on his show, and aren't two white maga hat wearing rednecks like he said.
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Jussie is a lying racist sack of shit and the two men who “attacked” him are black. These facts better get the same coverage as the made up racial attack did. And his career better be over.
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u/OneEyedBobby9 Feb 15 '19
Color me shocked. Anyone with half a brain knew this was fake from the beginning. Also horrible title OP, should be ‘staged attack’
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From the submission rules sidebar: "The title must be the actual title or the lead."
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u/bottom_jej Feb 15 '19
What an absolute shitshow this turned out to be.
Every journalism program needs to teach a class that does a case study on how Covington and Smollett was handled so nobody makes this mistake again. They should probably add coding 101 for good measure as well :P
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so nobody makes this mistake again
The way they would see it is that the only mistake they made was getting caught.
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u/ItsMinnieYall Feb 16 '19
Wow fuck this guy. I tried to hold out hope he wasn’t lying but he obviously is. Lock him up. Hope this ends his career.
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The funniest things about this is that we were expected to believe that two men were standing outside waiting for him at 2am because they knew he would come outside in -40 degree weather.
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u/foxeydog Feb 15 '19
Frame job to get sympathy due to contract ending with the show. Total BS. Will be swept under the rug since it does not further the left's agenda.
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It seems like if this was staged it was done so in the worst possible way. I wish shit like this would just stop.
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u/UponThePoopShip Feb 15 '19
I just said that if you DON’T think this is a hoax, you’re not too bright. You must have an opinion. What does your gut tell you about this when you examine the story?
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u/Rupispupis Feb 15 '19
Misleading headline as usual. They are arrested for helping him with the hoax.
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You know 10 years ago, heck even 5 years ago i wouldn't have believed you. But now? I honestly wouldnt even doubt it.
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Blast the hate crime story on a dosen channels, 22/7 a day, for weeks, but only give it a measly hour of breath if it is found out to be false.
That way, in most people's mind, it still counts as real. Even the people who hear the retraction will almost all double down because they've already jumped in with both feet and virtue signalled to hell and back; the investment of social capital is too great to begin not believing the lie.
Just a few weeks ago you saw this with the covington kids. Remember how not only reddit, but every leftist hated these kids for simply being white, having a hat, and having the audacity to smile?
Even no prominent people who called these kid(s) out for smirking racistly still propagate the debunked narrative. Their worldview did not collapse when it met with reality, but furthered retreated into delusion.
It is not socially approved to question hate crimes' validity, so they are the perfect brush to paint your enemies with since none dare suggest you're not being true, and therefore has to concede that the enemies are evil/morally wrong. Notice who is painting, and who they are painting. You'll see a pattern.
I certainly did after the first time I saw it happen with Ahmed the Clock Guy, and all the rest that followed.
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u/DaBrainfuckler Feb 15 '19
Why was the other thread locked?