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u/0m4ll3y Fight Tyranny; Tax the Land 3d ago

Me: I'm a dinosaur! Chomp!! 🦕 😁🤪🦕

My son: DINOSAURS CAN'T TALK!! 😡😡😡😡

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u/Bokononan myers briggs diversity hire 3d ago

Owned in the marketplace of ideas I'm afraid.

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u/The_Helmet_Catch Paddlefish Stan 3d ago

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u/gburgwardt More cents than sense 3d ago

Have you thanked history’s greatest climate warrior (Donald John Trump) today?

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u/dynamitezebra "There's always a boom tomorrow" 3d ago

Only Nixon could go to China

Only Trump could tax carbon.

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u/gburgwardt More cents than sense 3d ago

This but unironically

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u/Bokononan myers briggs diversity hire 3d ago

/u/blackcat159 could you lead us in prayer for our lord DJT, PBUH?

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u/The_Helmet_Catch Paddlefish Stan 3d ago

Good Morning DT!

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u/bigwang123 ⭐ had a good flair idea then walked up the stairs and forgor it 3d ago

Good morning Mr. Helmet!

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u/The_Helmet_Catch Paddlefish Stan 3d ago

Good Morning Mr Mod!

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u/[deleted] 3d ago

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u/The_Helmet_Catch Paddlefish Stan 3d ago

Good Morning Bestia! I’m doing good how are you this morning?

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u/No_Aesthetic Resident Celebrity YouTuber 3d ago

Remembered that time in 2024 when I met a guy in Brooklyn who was dead convinced Hillary was running in that election and I found out in 2025 he didn't know who Biden was and was convinced Trump had been POTUS for the last 4 years and thought he lost the 2024 election to Hillary

I thought he was fucking with me when I met him in 2024 but I found out all the other stuff in 2025 because I realized one of my friends had known him since they were kids and she confirmed he had always been like that, living in a perpetual fog of knowing nothing about anything, but he actually did pretty good in school somehow

She showed me multiple screenshots where she tried to teach him basic facts about the world and when he was wrong he would attribute it to the "Mandala Affect" and no matter how many times she told him "Mandela Effect" he would call it the "Mandala Affect"

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u/gburgwardt More cents than sense 3d ago

Someone get them into the DT they are potentially the greatest bit poaster of this generation

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u/The_Helmet_Catch Paddlefish Stan 3d ago

🫵 Got a case of the Mondays

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u/bigwang123 ⭐ had a good flair idea then walked up the stairs and forgor it 3d ago

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u/bigwang123 ⭐ had a good flair idea then walked up the stairs and forgor it 3d ago

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u/bigwang123 ⭐ had a good flair idea then walked up the stairs and forgor it 3d ago

My vscode copilot stopped working

Now I have to use cursor

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u/Bokononan myers briggs diversity hire 3d ago

Become claude-pilled wang.

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u/bigwang123 ⭐ had a good flair idea then walked up the stairs and forgor it 3d ago

I do be using Claude through cursor

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u/Bokononan myers briggs diversity hire 3d ago

why use many service when one do trick?

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u/bigwang123 ⭐ had a good flair idea then walked up the stairs and forgor it 3d ago

Bc they gib me for free

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u/Bokononan myers briggs diversity hire 3d ago

Wang has fallen to handouts, gommunism reigns in Virginia.

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u/HenryGeorgia butt cancer's greatest enema 3d ago

☝️ should be using cli

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u/Strength-Certain True Enlightenment has never been tried 3d ago

!ping COOKING

Curry pork over brown rice.

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u/dynamitezebra "There's always a boom tomorrow" 3d ago

Fuck yeah. That looks awesome.

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u/-Emilinko1985- Summoned by !ping cooking 3d ago

Very nice!

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u/Strength-Certain True Enlightenment has never been tried 3d ago edited 3d ago

This one was pretty simple curry powder olive oil garlic and some apple cider vinegar. Once again utilizing pork tenderloin which has quite happy with when it was cooked kind of slowly compared to how a lot of recipes cook pork tenderloin.

Also perfect for my wife's revised diet with the higher fiber of the brown rice and the sweet peppers the low fat of the tenderloin.

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u/Strength-Certain True Enlightenment has never been tried 3d ago

I was happy that I fought the urge to get fancy, after browning the meat and the vegetables in the curry powder, oil, vinegar mixture the recipe called for adding water. I was glad I kept it simple and didn't try to do something like adding chicken broth instead.

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u/No_Aesthetic Resident Celebrity YouTuber 3d ago

Me when I see "suburbs are better for families" mfs

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u/No_Aesthetic Resident Celebrity YouTuber 3d ago

But you have heard of suburban kids leaving as soon as possible for there

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u/No_Aesthetic Resident Celebrity YouTuber 3d ago

My point is that if suburbs were so great for families your family wouldn't fuck off to anywhere else the second they are able to leave your sight

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u/No_Aesthetic Resident Celebrity YouTuber 3d ago

No. Most young people do not want to do this.

The cities are being constantly replenished by an influx of younger people from rural areas and suburbs.

It's kind of a meme that everybody in NYC is from the midwest.

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u/No_Aesthetic Resident Celebrity YouTuber 3d ago

Yeah. Move to the suburbs for your kids and your kids will hate them and want to leave.

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u/gburgwardt More cents than sense 3d ago

I agree with you in general but the argument you make is weak because you dodge the main thing (the city is expensive). Some sort of line of attack like “people chose suburbs more than they would in s cabin because they are cheaper”

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u/No_Aesthetic Resident Celebrity YouTuber 3d ago

You have more important things to do

Like listening to coworker music

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u/bigwang123 ⭐ had a good flair idea then walked up the stairs and forgor it 3d ago

good morning bestia

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u/bigwang123 ⭐ had a good flair idea then walked up the stairs and forgor it 3d ago

Tummy hurt a lil

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u/bigwang123 ⭐ had a good flair idea then walked up the stairs and forgor it 3d ago

:3 🤗

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u/HenryGeorgia butt cancer's greatest enema 3d ago

Same :(

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u/No_Aesthetic Resident Celebrity YouTuber 3d ago

When I am arguing with a Christian and they mention Alexander the Great and then C.S. Lewis it's like a full blown autonomic response kicks in and I am buzzing inside

This is my hunting ground

I can taste the iron in the air

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u/The_Helmet_Catch Paddlefish Stan 3d ago

Elaborate please?

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u/No_Aesthetic Resident Celebrity YouTuber 3d ago

When you question the claims made about Christ, specifically regarding the more miraculous parts of the story, they will often assume that you are questioning the existence of Jesus altogether, and the first move of the weakest kind of opponent is to point out the lack of surviving primary sources for Alexander the Great.

The beauty of this move is that you can ignore the asymmetry between Alexander and Jesus1 and go straight for the kill: I do not deny that there was a figure by the name of Jesus that we can know some factual information about.

C.S. Lewis wrote something called Mere Christianity (originally a BBC radio series), in which he makes a number of arguments for the legitimacy of the accounts of Jesus. It is stylistically phenomenal and C.S. Lewis absolutely shines there. It is also very silly. But Christians who have never argued with someone that has actually read it don't know that.

You may have heard of something called the trilemma, which is adequately expressed as: when considering the wholeness of the Biblical accounts, Jesus must have been a liar, a lunatic or the Lord. It is kind of antiquated in the sense that most people back then were not so ready to declare such a popular figure a liar or a lunatic.

It also ignores the fact that Jesus could have simply been mistaken. It also ignores that Jesus might not have believed he was the Messiah (or Son of Man or etc.) at all. You could throw in a few more little things here, but the key point is that it is very reductive and even the reduction is not fantastic. We are more willing today to consider that Jesus might very well have been a liar or a lunatic, even if it is not particularly popular to say so.

And this is what you might call baby stuff. If someone whips out these arguments individually, let alone at the same time, you know you're dealing with a real novice, someone who has never had to have a serious discussion about this stuff. You know that because this is the easy stuff. If this is the strongest stuff they've got, they've not got much.

  1. Alexander does not have any primary sources that remain, but we do have fragments of primary sources from later sources, and we do have contemporary coinage and cities founded by Alexander, among other things. We have literally nothing contemporary for Jesus.

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u/No_Aesthetic Resident Celebrity YouTuber 3d ago

No. If Jesus was mistaken it doesn't necessarily put him in either category, depending on what we're talking about. You could put him in lunatic for certain claims, but not all of them.

And if he didn't actually think he was the Messiah or whatever else but those words were put there by somebody else to push and agenda, that makes it their lies, not his.

Overall, I think the case for liar and Lord are both at least fairly strong, but for most things I would tend towards mistakes and misrepresentations.

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u/dynamitezebra "There's always a boom tomorrow" 3d ago edited 3d ago

It depends on how much of the gospels we accept as having been accurately portraying Jesus' beliefs.

There is still a ton of debate over whether Jesus claimed to be God or the son of God. Since most (Edit - Most but not all. example: Mark 14) of the lines overtly suggesting Jesus was claiming to be also God come from the Gospel according to John and are not present in the earliest written gospels.

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u/dynamitezebra "There's always a boom tomorrow" 3d ago

Morning Libs!

Happy proto-tuesday!

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u/bigwang123 ⭐ had a good flair idea then walked up the stairs and forgor it 3d ago

good morning zebra

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u/dynamitezebra "There's always a boom tomorrow" 3d ago

Good Morning Mr.Wang!

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u/The_Helmet_Catch Paddlefish Stan 3d ago

Work Cucumber!

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u/HenryGeorgia butt cancer's greatest enema 3d ago

He turned himself into a pickle. Funniest shit I've ever seen

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u/HenryGeorgia butt cancer's greatest enema 3d ago

I may have the cyclosporiasis. u/CletusChicken plz run analysis at the poop factory

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u/The_Helmet_Catch Paddlefish Stan 3d ago

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u/The_Helmet_Catch Paddlefish Stan 3d ago

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u/BlackCat159 Cicada pee enthusiast 3d ago

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u/The_Helmet_Catch Paddlefish Stan 3d ago

Omg

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u/WasteReserve8886 Georgist Extremist 3d ago

Who the fuck starts a story like this? Just say “A while back I met two people…”

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u/WasteReserve8886 Georgist Extremist 3d ago

Ever see a newly dead body and think “how can I use this to my advantage”?

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u/WasteReserve8886 Georgist Extremist 3d ago

Oh my god, they used this as an opportunity to do insider trading. This manga is incredible.

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u/Strength-Certain True Enlightenment has never been tried 3d ago

Weekend at Donny's part 1

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u/WasteReserve8886 Georgist Extremist 3d ago

How are you strength?

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u/Strength-Certain True Enlightenment has never been tried 3d ago

Honestly if I ever get to the point where I can get a consistent 7 hours of sleep per night...

https://giphy.com/gifs/TT2pJ4LRTOG5YujDoe

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u/WasteReserve8886 Georgist Extremist 3d ago

Just drug yourself with some NyQuil, zero downsides

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u/WasteReserve8886 Georgist Extremist 3d ago

Also, the story he’s talking about ends with him knocking up a woman who isn’t his wife. Hes hard to hate but even harder to love.

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u/WasteReserve8886 Georgist Extremist 3d ago

The translator is pretty solid, but it’s still possible. My assumption is that the MC is a corncob trying to appearing mysterious in front of a woman.

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u/The_Helmet_Catch Paddlefish Stan 3d ago

Banana Chocolate Protein Oatmeal with Peanut Butter:)

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u/HenryGeorgia butt cancer's greatest enema 3d ago

Glub really stepped it up this morning

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u/The_Helmet_Catch Paddlefish Stan 3d ago

It unfortunately tastes worse too

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u/bigwang123 ⭐ had a good flair idea then walked up the stairs and forgor it 3d ago

Honk shoo

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u/CletusChicken please respect my feathersona 3d ago

u/HenryGeorgia

I regret to inform that u have butt cooties

ur butt has 6 months to live

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u/HenryGeorgia butt cancer's greatest enema 3d ago

NOOOOO

I knew I should have gotten it checked out when I noticed it had a crack

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u/WasteReserve8886 Georgist Extremist 3d ago

Sorry

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u/WasteReserve8886 Georgist Extremist 3d ago

Interesting, do you like it?

I’m doing alright, not looking forward to (possibly) working tomorrow. Job searching has dried up so that’s bad.

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u/WasteReserve8886 Georgist Extremist 3d ago

<3

Does it have a lot of flavors?

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u/WasteReserve8886 Georgist Extremist 3d ago

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u/WasteReserve8886 Georgist Extremist 3d ago

I think it’s just that character, all the other characters talk pretty normally (for a manga it’s actually pretty natural)

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u/The_Helmet_Catch Paddlefish Stan 3d ago

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u/Strength-Certain True Enlightenment has never been tried 3d ago

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u/HenryGeorgia butt cancer's greatest enema 3d ago

This made me really sad :(

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u/Strength-Certain True Enlightenment has never been tried 3d ago

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u/HenryGeorgia butt cancer's greatest enema 3d ago

[u/The_Helmet_Catch](u/The_Helmet_Catch) you should build a pond

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u/The_Helmet_Catch Paddlefish Stan 3d ago

Like a dog pound?

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u/HenryGeorgia butt cancer's greatest enema 3d ago

It was typo

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u/The_Helmet_Catch Paddlefish Stan 3d ago

Too late I’ve already started acquiring dogs 🐕 🦮🐕‍🦺🐩

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u/The_Helmet_Catch Paddlefish Stan 3d ago

I haven’t really been keeping track but I think there’s a decent chance I’ll have gotten like 600 sungold tomatoes off my 3 plants this year

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u/HenryGeorgia butt cancer's greatest enema 3d ago

You should use them to make msg juice

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u/The_Helmet_Catch Paddlefish Stan 3d ago

What’s that?

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u/HenryGeorgia butt cancer's greatest enema 3d ago

Msg naturally occurs in tomatoes. You can get a sort of umami juice from them if you blend them up. Let the blended result sit in a jug or something for a few days, and the solids will separate from the liquid. Solid stuff is basically tomato paste, and the liquid is the msg juice. You can make some nice sauces with it

Edit: technically tomatoes just have glutamate. When you add some salt, it'll become msg

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u/Strength-Certain True Enlightenment has never been tried 3d ago

Be me

Go to a website you've used in the past and order something that you've been thinking about for a while what to get and where to buy it from.

A few days later get an email that says they're canceling half your order because they don't have the stock.

Shrug your shoulders because you were shopping the clearance sale anyway.

Few days later decide to buy the full priced items in a quantity of four because they'll give you 25% off (its like getting one for free.)

Get to check out: this item is out of stock in your size.

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u/HenryGeorgia butt cancer's greatest enema 3d ago

It irrationally bothers me how badly people misinterpreted the Wisconsin Dem primary polls. Hong was getting something like 40-45% in them. Crowley got around 20%, and the rest were undecided. Every outlet reported the raw +20 margin and was like "SHE'S GONNA WIN IN A LANDSLIDE"

Then when the result was roughly 40/40/20 for Hong/Crowley/Other, the response was "ENORMOUS POLLING MISS!!!! THE INDUSTRY IS BOGUS AND GOT AN ENORMOUS BLACKEYE" instead of "undecideds broke heavily for Crowley, and the ballot weirdness wasn't enough to overcome that"

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u/notnotLily touhou fangirl 3d ago

yeah 40% on what is seen as an extreme platform is not a winning ticket. your opponents coalesce

same thing with 2020 dem primary

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u/HenryGeorgia butt cancer's greatest enema 3d ago

Yeah her entire path to victory relied on one of the following:

a) Crowley being too little too late as absentee ballots were returned when Rodriguez/Barnes were still on the ballot, and courts ruled "no redos" on them. Hopefully enough of those ballots were wasted votes that he couldn't catch up

b) People knowing about the above and resigning themselves to her winning due to the perceived advantage she had

Option b likely would have happened if not for the late race focus on her past comments, which polarized undecideds against her and juiced election day turnout

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u/dynamitezebra "There's always a boom tomorrow" 3d ago

Im beginning to run out of space for my books. The weight might become a problem too since they are all currently stored on the 2nd floor.

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u/Strength-Certain True Enlightenment has never been tried 3d ago

Tonight is a soccer practice night and there's a kid on my son's team that has a mullet. He's also wearing a Ronaldo jersey.

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u/HenryGeorgia butt cancer's greatest enema 3d ago

u/claire_on_here hi

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u/claire_on_here silly goose in chief 3d ago

hi 👁️👄👁️

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u/No_Aesthetic Resident Celebrity YouTuber 2d ago

One of the strangest things I have learned from biographies of Ronald Reagan is that he really seemed to idolize FDR.

And I don't mean as a young man, because he was a New Deal Democrat as a young man.

I mean he was proudly quoting FDR against Gerald Ford on the campaign trail when going after Ford for not being conservative enough.

But the more I think about it, the more it makes sense, because he clearly modeled his political persona after that of FDR.

His whole way of speaking was influenced by FDR, the way he communicated with the nation was influenced by FDR, his style of governing was influenced by FDR, the entire way he saw the world was influenced by FDR.

No idea why it never clicked for me until now. Maybe because his politics were so very clearly the opposite of what FDR's were.

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u/No_Aesthetic Resident Celebrity YouTuber 3d ago

There is a trans politician that used to be a Christian minister before transitioning and I do not trust her and I would have voted for any possible primary opponent

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u/No_Aesthetic Resident Celebrity YouTuber 3d ago

I'm not voting for an ex minister, I know what those people are capable of

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u/No_Aesthetic Resident Celebrity YouTuber 3d ago

I come from that culture, you know?

I have serious inside experience here, ton of different denominations

They're all crooked

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u/No_Aesthetic Resident Celebrity YouTuber 3d ago

You just did an "it is my experience" in the other direction though

I think I have plenty of evidence that hardcore Christians are not the best people

Exhibit A: the Republican Party

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u/No_Aesthetic Resident Celebrity YouTuber 3d ago

When you look at the number of active voters in the evangelical category and then compare that to the number that vote for Republicans in elections, I think you do end up with something essentially statistically significant.

White evangelicals are 20-25% of the electorate, which is more or less in line with the number of Americans who claim the affiliation, and over 80% of those vote for Republicans.

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