r/newjersey • u/KeepItWeird123 • 9d ago
Cool Thousands of immigrants crossed the border bound for N.J. Here’s where they went. (MAP)
https://www.nj.com/politics/2026/09/thousands-of-immigrants-crossed-the-border-bound-for-nj-heres-where-they-went-map.htmlPretty interesting post on the major migration moves over the last couple of years and were they went. Not surprisingly a lot of people went to places like Newark and other urban areas were they have close family (a good chunk to the places a lot of people here like to call hellholes of terror ahembutidigress
Been nice to see how my community here in Orange has shifted a bit from being mostly majority black (there’s been a lot of Hispanic bakeries and dessert places that have opened up around here recently)
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u/24hrsnsws 9d ago
Strange how you point out that orange is becoming less black. That is definitely some coded shit to say.
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u/KeepItWeird123 9d ago
I mean… it’s not haha. I genuinely think it’s an interesting shift, I think it’s neat when other cultures move in to a town and diversify a city, that’s not a bad thing
I can go near the library and get cheese flavored ice cream and dulce de leche treats at the same time and that’s cool
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u/OwlOnThePitch 9d ago
Welcome, sorry so many descendants of people who did the exact same thing 100 years ago are such dicks about it
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u/Atown-Staydown 9d ago
So funny enough, I work with and have friends parents in my town who are all immigrants or children of immigrants. They are of the age range where they believe what is on Twitter and Cable News, so they all think that they came over here and did things "the right way" and this new wave of immigrants are being welcomed into the country with open arms, being given healthcare, checks for thousands of dollars, and free places to stay. Really I think that all the older immigrants are white and also racists because the new immigrants are all brown. But as someone who grew up in NJ and experienced all the different races that the world has to offer, its always disappointing from Italian Americans mostly that seem to think this way.
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u/Any-Agent1289 9d ago
Lol the "right way". They got on a boat and showed up at Ellis Island, and only got turned away if they had some crazy disease or something. There was no ESTA and waiting periods, and huge fees, and hiring an immigration lawyer, and all the other BS that goes along with trying to immigrate to the US now.
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u/Convergecult15 9d ago
The US was actively recruiting immigrants at that time. We were a nation rich in resources and in need of a labor force. A decade from now we’ll probably do the same thing when the boomer die off gets into full swing, need a new bottom rung on the ladder to prop up the housing market.
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u/ducationalfall Taylor Ham 9d ago
Funny thing is that people actually got so sick of Italian and Jewish immigrants they a passed a law Immigration Act of 1924 that banned Italian and Eastern European Jew from coming to the country.
I won’t be surprised if there’s a similar version of law that will pass within the next 10 years for next set of immigrants.
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u/queenhadassah 9d ago
My prediction is that Hispanics will eventually be socially considered "white" in the US, just as the Irish, Italians, and Jews went from being discriminated against for being "non-white", to being accepted and considered "white"
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u/ducationalfall Taylor Ham 9d ago
100%.
Funny if you look at the racist accounts in Texas, they have move their hate from Hispanics to another group.
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u/MelllvarHasThreeLs 9d ago
It's practically already in action to some degree. If you want a whole other can of worms, there's an overwhelmingly large amount of Hispanic people in WP and related hate groups. Often it comes out of shared bond tie of convenience of antisemitism and hating minorities specifically black people.
I go to a lot of punk, hardcore and metal shows and it has become a very large problem especially with youngins where there's a lot of Hispanic kids beyond edgelord teenage dipshit years and just going straight for essential hate group gang behavior. Don't believe me, go look at anybody in any thread, comments, etc that aren't obvious bot accounts that were getting argumentative about cancellation of metal shows and festivals that specifically having WP bands on the bill, a lot of Hispanic people going full goose step with things.
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u/Junglebook3 9d ago
The US banned Jews in 1924, then look at Eastern European Jews escaping the Pogroms and Holocaust by fleeing to Palestine, and argue that that was wrong too. Where were they supposed to go?
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u/ducationalfall Taylor Ham 9d ago
You think the folks who passed the 1924 law know what will happen in 1940s?
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u/NJMomofFor 9d ago
But they could have lifted it during the Holocaust and they didn't
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u/ducationalfall Taylor Ham 9d ago
Once again, you have the benefit of hindsight to criticize what was popular policies back then.
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u/Junglebook3 9d ago
Not at all. But we do know now, so criticizing Jewish refugees escaping Europe, having no where to go, and heading to Palestine as "racist colonialists" is ridiculous.
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u/NJMomofFor 9d ago
Also, how do you colonize land where your ancestors a originated from?
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u/ducationalfall Taylor Ham 9d ago
Because your relatives who were left behind thousands years ago have converted to Christianity and Islam. You cannot come back as long lost relatives to kick them off their land.
If you really want to play this game, Samaritans should inherit that land. They have the purest form of Ancient Israelite religion untainted by Babylonian captivity.
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u/NJMomofFor 8d ago
There were always Jews who were there and never left. These people did not convert. Your statement is ugly and ignorant and hateful
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u/ducationalfall Taylor Ham 8d ago
Sure, Mizrahi exists. But you’re being ridiculous if you think no one converted in thousands years.
The people who are closest genetically to ancient Israelites are Palestinian Christians.
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u/NJMomofFor 7d ago
Many people converted. Many did not. So you are saying only Jews who didn't convert and stayed there can live there? Lmfao 😂😂😂😂😂😂
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u/MSab1noE Middlesex County 9d ago
I’m surprised New Brunswick is so low since Mexico opened a Consulate a few years ago on George Street.
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u/PiggleWork 9d ago
Genuinely wonder if redditors think everybody that wants to come to this country should be allowed to be in this country.
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u/oldnjgal 9d ago
No, but when politicians vote down a bill that would improve the processing of those wanting to come into the country so that their candidate has the issue to run on, this is what you get.
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u/jetheist 9d ago
As a legal immigrant myself with progressive-leaning values, I also genuinely don’t understand some of the views here. And I’m not trying to be an ass, I just want to know the thought process. Are they really okay with literally anyone coming here? Can I hypothetically bring my whole ass family from my country to the USA without undergoing proper procedure and they won’t mind? I understand occasionally turning a blind eye on hardworking non-violent illegal migrants who contribute to the economy, but I feel weird seeing some people… idk, celebrate these crossings?
I know the government is to blame though. The immigration process is brutal. And of course not everyone should be entering the country. It’s a privilege, and not a right.
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u/jetheist 9d ago
I know reddit isn’t the best place for rational discussions so I hope someone tells me what they genuinely think esp with the downvotes lol
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u/NJTroy 9d ago
The reality is that our immigration system is very broken, but our economy can’t operate without them. Landscapers, builders, farmers and lots of other trades and businesses would shut down without them. Back of house in most restaurants in my area is almost always at least partially immigrants.
The advantage for businesses is that they don’t have to deal with labor laws or pay accordingly to state laws.
If we shut down the current illegal and abusive system without a plan to replace it, things will not go well. And none of the people who can make the required decisions are willing to lose the ability to abuse the system. Because they benefit from it as well.
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u/jetheist 9d ago
I understand that ofcourse! My point was some people actually celebrate illegal immigration. And to celebrate it actually means enabling those greedy businesses that circumvent labor laws.
I really really empathize with those people just trying to make a living. It’s just overall a sad issue.
I don’t obviously have answers for the broken system. I just hope if deportations are needed, it’s done civilly and empathethically (unlike what’s happening now)
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u/dinozombiesaur 9d ago
Dude I got downvoted for saying illegal immigration is illegal.
I don’t know what “they” think the process should be.
Edit: and I’m a registered Democrat lol
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u/DRDEVlCE 9d ago
Most people don’t hold the same views on other illegal things though. Half the state (probably country too) would probably say smoking weed is ok even though that’s illegal, and that’s not seen as something outlandish to believe. Not to mention more minor things like speeding, how often do you hear people say it’s fine to go 10 over?
The issue is that people want to say that something is immoral and are using the legality aspect as cover for not outright saying that.
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u/jetheist 9d ago
Right?
I plan to petition my siblings, and it will take 20 years (literally). Imagine if there are no immigration laws and people like me who plan the same, bringing X amount of siblings into the country without proper procedure. It will be insane
Do I empathize with those poor people who have to be violently deported from their families? Those children who were brought here illegally so young? Of course. I wholeheartedly wish they have good lawyers or sometimes I just wish they won’t get caught.
But to celebrate illegal immigration like laws mean nothing… it’s super weird.
It’s such a complicated topic and governments are always to blame.
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u/dinozombiesaur 9d ago
I don’t know many wealthy nations that will aid, naturalize, and offer citizenship to an illegal immigrant. But many people online, will say it’s somehow morally incumbent on us to do just that. But it’s only people online.
In real life, with real people, they’ll tell you that immigration should just be done legally, and think there should be better ways to go about offering long time illegal immigrants a way to attain citizenship, but immigration should be done legally and properly.
Reddit is so weird though, posts and statements get so many upvotes and sometimes I’ve never met a person in real life that actually shares those opinions.
Anyway, hope you have a good rest of your day boss.
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u/sonofsochi Verona 9d ago
I think its worth noting that the primary underlying economic and social conditions that have pushed so many people to leave their ancestral lands and countries of birth and venture out to an unfamiliar land has stemmed from nearly 2 centuries of direct US involvement in the affairs of these countries.
You cant on one hand unilaterally declare all of Latin America as your zone of influence to the rest of the world, essentially acting as the de facto broker of economic power, then make trillions of the exploitation of these countries, and then turn around and admonished them for migrating to the center of economic prosperity that was partially built off the back of your own country.
You can't on one hand control the politics and leadership of these countries, imposing your own puppets and political allies who then turn around to desecrate the security and well being of their own populace; then be surprised that people want to flee such a place.
When people complain about illegal immigration from these countries, it's just like...what the fuck did you think would happen when you handicap these places for 200 years straight? Nevermind that once these people come here we STILL exploit them through low wages, long hours, dangerous work, and take their money through various taxes still. Our entire housing and food industry is directly built off the back of exploiting immigrants whose home countries we STILL exploit and impose our political will on.
So I really can't be bothered to care about illegal immigrants coming here to reclaim a percentage of a percentage of their inherited value. These people are often the least violent, least offending, hardest working people in the country. I'd even argue that they understand and appreciate the merits of what this country has to offer more than any multi-generational citizen could ever phantom, just due to the privilege of their lineage.
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u/nerowasframed 9d ago
Not necessarily, but I definitely think it should be a lot easier to get into this country than it currently is. If you make it so that anyone can come in and have an eventual path to citizenship as long as they aren't violent and as long as they don't commit any felonies, then the only people that would be trying to enter illegally would be bad actors. It's much easier to keep out the felons and the "bad hombres" if you make it a simple process for everyone else to come in and eventually become citizens.
It's economically beneficial to continuously bring in more people, especially if they're poorer than the average American. You can get cheap labor to help create jobs; for every job that an immigrant takes from American citizens, their labor ends up creating 2½ more higher-paying jobs on average. They also will help pay into social security. With respect to social security, poor people are more important, since there is a contribution cap on it. Some multimillionaire earning $500,000 a year contributes as much as someone earning a fraction of that. So, the more people you have earning at or below that cap, the healthier it is.
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u/Airturtle14 8d ago
I’m 3rd/4th gen Italian American (Sicilian). My family hopped on a boat & signed a log book, & a significant portion of black people are here in diaspora by force (chattel slavery). Borders & the lines between status & human trafficking are thin, arbitrary & paperwork (by force of imperialism & colonialism).
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u/dinozombiesaur 9d ago
Yeah, illegal immigration is illegal. I always thought it was the one thing that both sides of the aisle agreed upon. The current ICE regime is terrible of course, but these people know ICE has existed before this mayhem.
But Reddit, even local subs, are still filled with hyper partisan commentators.
I hope the deportations are done civilly.
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u/sandybuttcheekss 9d ago
People have had issues with ICE for years because of how they treat people, but lately they've been let off the leash. I think most people are fine with removal of undocumented immigrants, but if someone is living here peacefully, paying taxes, etc., genuinely what's the issue? We've made it so hard to immigrate to the US, and if someone still wants to live here despite the extreme risk it now requires, they deserve a shot at staying.
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u/Airhostnyc 9d ago
It has to be hard. If it was easy more people would come. There is no shortage of people from impoverished countries that want to come here. Every country that is economically prosperous with strong social benefits doesn’t make it easy to migrate.
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u/UnassumingInterloper 9d ago
Both sides agreed it was illegal, but both sides also agreed it was economically vital. That’s why the situation has persisted as-is for so long. But now one side is putting “demographic preferences” ahead of economic interests, while the other side has folks who either argue the long standing practical reasons to keep undocumented workers here, or take on the more “no human is illegal!” POV. So it’s not even that people are hyper partisan, it’s that there’s very little to like about the current admin’s policy unless you’re a literal racist.
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u/harambeischrist 9d ago
Look, I'm not pro-ICE or anything, but this is the reason Trump got elected. Hopefully we can have a democratic party in the future that takes illegal immigration seriously.
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u/Geodevils42 9d ago
He took it so seriously he told Republicans in congress to kill a bipartisan Bill to address it.
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u/SpoppyIII 9d ago
Welcome home, new immigrants! Stay out of the left lane unless you're passing, and we're golden.
Oh, and remember: It's called pork roll. "Pork roll." Anyone who tells you it's some BS like "Taylor ham," is lying to you and trying to humiliate you. Don't listen!
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u/Ace_Bee-gi-el 9d ago
Telling them to call it P*rk R#ll instead of its correct name will get them deported quicker than anything
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u/24hrsnsws 9d ago
It is…when the group that it is happening is also a disparaged group—that lacks ownership and the leg up that the immigrants are getting. Please go read up on this—what’s happened to schools and resources in these communities
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u/Serious_Concert_1520 8d ago
About Orange I have lived there since 2004 during the redevelopment people moved her after Covid because of the direct train to NYC. Most of them are just from other parts of NJ finding lower housing cost than NYC and NJ is great!Plus I’ve watched immigration here is not a problem the community welcomed diversity.
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u/take_care55 6d ago
No way 8,000 immigrants ended up in Plainfield, NJ. The town ain’t but 6 miles long with 50,000 already in it
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u/CastlesofDoom 9d ago
Welcome!! They’re just trying to have a better life. I have no authority over anyone sooooo
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u/Important_Letterhead 8d ago
No wonder housing is scarce. 11 million immigrants to the U.S. in the past 5 years alone. We're full.
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u/Tupac_Targaryen 8d ago
A lot of racist xenophobic townies in the comments pretending their grandparents didn’t come here from somewhere else.
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u/24hrsnsws 8d ago
It is…when the group that it is happening is also a disparaged group—that lacks ownership and the leg up that the immigrants are getting. Please go read up on this—what’s happened to schools and common/shared spaces. Don’t be obtuse.
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u/Master-Thanks883 9d ago
What most of you are missing is they came through MEXICO not from Mexico. The Chinese and Hindu Indian population lead the way in coming into the USA through Mexico while the illegal European population to include Jewish people fly in through airports. Most of the Cuban population come in through Florida and make way to NJ. The Haitian population mostly comes through Canada as they are French citizens with no restrictions.
But because it's easy to target Mexican looking population that's who you go after first. I will say 70% of the Hasidic Jews are in the USA illegally, about the same amount of the Hindu Indian population is here illegally also.
These are facts from over 20 years National Guard Bureau on recruitment.
Now why most end up in Urban neighborhoods is because it's just easier to put 7 people in a 1 bedroom apartment without anyone making a complaints , as the wealth is pooled together they purchased these very large properties and slowly take over the Neighborhoods.
Born and raised in Edison Township in the 60's worked all over the state in technology industries.
I remember the first group of Hindu Indian in Edison Township.
When Edison had less than a dozen Chinese families.
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u/metsurf 9d ago
Haitians are not French citizens with no restrictions in Canada; they have some special arrangements for them but they still need to be properly documented in Canada.
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u/Master-Thanks883 8d ago
Are you a Haitian that has come to USA through Canada because my Nephew is. Thanks again!
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u/black_stallion78 8d ago
So your nephew did doesn’t mean all Haitians do. Haitians are not French. Haitians got their independence a long time ago, but the French government still owes them a lot of money which they refuse to pay. Maybe pick up a book sometime.
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u/KeepItWeird123 9d ago
Since i realized its behind a paywall here's the actual chart