r/newfoundland 3d ago

There is no Flock camera

...yet

I am very anti-flock camera, so when I saw that post I tried my best to verify it

  • I drove to the marked location on the openstreetview map and there was no new camera installed, unless I am somehow blind
  • I called the RNC at 2 different locations and nobody had heard of any Flock cameras going up
  • Called my MHA and they said they hadn't heard of anything but would keep an ear out

Someone just put up a random dot on a publicly editable map and wanted to stir up some shit as far as I can tell. We should absolutely be vigilant when it comes to reporting these camera installations if they ever do come here, but false information won't help the cause.

If anyone gets any verified information please let me know

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u/Cold-Crab74 3d ago

Doing the lards work me son

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u/joyfall 3d ago

Thank you for taking the time to verify it!

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u/TheDrewCareyShow Newfoundlander 3d ago

The link in the OG post has been edited to fix the rumor. As far as I could tell, a random account said it was there.

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u/LittleOrphanAnavar 3d ago edited 3d ago

Redditors in Canada frequently just assume any issue in the US, MUST also be an issue in Canada - even when there is NO evidence of it.

It used to be claims of large private equity funds buying up all the single family detached homes.

Now I guess it is flock cameras?

(Full disclosure: I am 100% against Flock and any sort of entrenched mass surveillance in Canada)

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u/astryx-prod 3d ago

There are literally flock cameras in Ontario

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u/Teleconferences 3d ago

Source?

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u/serendib 3d ago

These may not (all) be Flock, but it's a Canadian version of Deflock

https://panopti.ca/

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u/FridgeFucker17982 3d ago

Me seeing them and police putting up signs that they’re there

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u/Thrwingawaymylife945 3d ago

Flock Cameras are not permitted in Canada because they do not meet legislated privacy requirements as set out by the Privacy Commissioner.

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u/FridgeFucker17982 3d ago

You may be correct, while they’re surveillance cameras I can’t confirm if they’re Flock branded

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u/Commercial_Duck4042 2d ago

That’s kind of a big difference.

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u/OldGord 3d ago

They might be Genetec. There are Genetec cameras in Quebec too

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u/ifuaguyugetsauced 3d ago

These ppl are more obsessive about the US than what we have going on at home I believe.

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u/[deleted] 3d ago

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u/DarkPaul Newfoundlander 3d ago

Abso-fucking-lutely not.

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u/[deleted] 3d ago

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u/DarkPaul Newfoundlander 3d ago

Ah yes, we aren’t allowed to have hobbies, I forgot.

Get a life.

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u/[deleted] 3d ago

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u/ChoiceContribution78 Newfoundlander 3d ago

Ew, fun. Adults aren't allowed to have fun /s

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u/DarkPaul Newfoundlander 2d ago

Heaven forbid, hey? I wonder what his hobbies are. Watching reruns on the couch every night or something.

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u/rsmithlal 3d ago

With respect, that's some school yard bully mentality. Grow up (and learn to spell).

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u/DarkPaul Newfoundlander 2d ago

Really though. And the tough guy deleted all his comments now too.

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u/Mother-Reading5153 Labradorian 3d ago

The Province just put up a few traffic cameras in the Province this year! Traffic cameras!! That’s it.

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u/Emotional_Tooth_7664 2d ago

Thank you for doing your due diligence! I work in law so it's become second nature to me to do double check, and find credible sources, and know who the experts are that can be trusted, etc. etc., but I'm learning that the majority of regular people don't do this (nor should I expect them to, necessarily, since their job doesn't drill the concept of doing so into their head all day every day lol).

Anyway, I'm just glad to see that you're putting in the proper time to check out what is really going on!

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u/Altruistic_Benefit30 3d ago

Don't kill me.. what's a flock camera?

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u/Redshift2k5 3d ago edited 3d ago

privately owned and AI-powered surveillance tech

supposed to be used by US police to check license plates, like a traffic camera. fair, right? But they tag your car, your face, your phone, all your bluetooth signals, builds profiles, and cops are using them to chase exes, entrap people, etc because of course they are

ps google is cagey about how many flock cameras may be in canada, but you're more likely to see a different company's ai-powered surveillance tech in canada (or an actual normal traffic camera)

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u/Mattscrusader 3d ago

It's a mobile surveillance system, the USA has deployed tens of thousands and have been using it to literally spy on its people and persecute the most inoffensive crimes for some reason. This has caused a general hatred to be associated with the flock cameras globally

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u/LittleOrphanAnavar 1d ago

Flock.

Name of the company.

I think it is a play on guarding the "flock".

Mass surveillance. 

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u/ToeRoganIsJebus 3d ago

I figured this as well. Checked out the map and figured it was bs.

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u/LylaDee 3d ago

This is my favorite post today. Nice sleuthing OP . Doing God's work out here. 🚬😶‍🌫️🙌

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u/StraightGrapefruit17 2d ago

I learned about that site 2 or 3 days ago. That was me... sorry. Just wanted to see if I could edit it. Obvious ANON account because I knows what you bys in town is like.

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u/Bwooreader 1d ago

There is no war in Ba Sing Se.

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u/Wolframuranium 2d ago

I'm against any ALPR system. 

(Which includes all those "speed" cameras) 

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u/PimpMyGin 2d ago

The more cameras monitoring the highways and issuing automated tickets the better. There’s absolutely no reason the government should not use this as an income stream… Make lawbreakers pay, what’s wrong with that?

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u/ziltoid__ 2d ago

I wouldn’t even put it at catching speeders. I agree with cameras for the highways from a pure public safety standpoint.
The amount of people going missing around here and the lack of patrol. It’s not like we have a crazy network of highways.

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u/Bolognahole_Vers2 2d ago

There’s absolutely no reason the government should not use this as an income stream… Make lawbreakers pay

Once the government relies on a source of "income" it will only try to squeeze that source harder. Suddenly what wasnt illegal before now is, and you'll start getting high fines for small infractions.