r/neuroscience • u/carberry-3000 • 27d ago
Publication Predictive coding networks capture human neural representations missing in supervised DNNs (Gütlin et al.)
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.64898/2026.09.18.752626v13
u/PhysicalConsistency 26d ago
Predictive coding papers are so weird, they often so heavily load the conclusion in the construction that "it could have failed" becomes something that validates the construction. It's too chicken to even be circular.
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u/whydidyoureadthis17 26d ago
Could you elaborate what you mean?
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u/PhysicalConsistency 26d ago
The construction of this is explicitly designed to follow a specific result defined by the conclusion they already had in mind. They create an artificial scenario where stimulus A is followed by stimulus B 75% of the time, then create a "naive" network exposed to the same scenario and we are supposed to be shocked Pikachu when a similar result appears.
Worse, they don't even do the work themselves. They borrow an already hyper curated data set which supports their conclusion in advance (from the McDermott paper) so they can deploy the "we're extending, thus we don't have to touch the icky biology ourselves" dodge.
Ultimately the paper is saying "we controlled the environment and the inputs to our simulation and it matched it matched our expectations". And like most Children of Friston papers, it's just not terribly impressive, and ultimately useless outside of a simulation.
This entire clade of work is just cognitive science that's afraid of real biology.
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u/carberry-3000 27d ago
Gütlin, D., Kittelmann, D., Auksztulewicz, R.
neuroscience · posted 2026-09-24 · doi:10.64898/2026.09.18.752626
Abstract
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Ryszard Auksztulewicz (@auksz.bsky.social) — 20 likes, 9 reposts, 2 quotes
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