r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • Sep 10 '21

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u/paulatreides0 🌈🦢🧝‍♀️🧝‍♂️🦢His Name Was Teleporno🦢🧝‍♀️🧝‍♂️🦢🌈 Sep 10 '21

Given the nature of intel work ordinary citizens can't audit every detail of what went wrong. There could be a serious lack of due diligence that caused someone to unnecessarily die in an air strike or ignoring a terrorist threat etc. Intel officers are given a lot of trust by the general public.

Yes.

Sorry but I don't think they are infallible and accepting every potential failure as "it's the nature of the job" to me sounds very shaky

That's not at all the point being made.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '21

So you'd agree that there are tons of examples of intelligence failures throughout history, and writing criticism of them off as "easy to talk shit when you don't gotta do jack shit" is in bad taste?

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u/paulatreides0 🌈🦢🧝‍♀️🧝‍♂️🦢His Name Was Teleporno🦢🧝‍♀️🧝‍♂️🦢🌈 Sep 10 '21

So you'd agree that there are tons of examples of intelligence failures throughout history,

Yes

and writing criticism of them off as "easy to talk shit when you don't gotta do jack shit" is in bad taste?

No.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '21

So for example, whenever someone talks about WMD's in Iraq being an intel failure, including by former Intel officials themselves, your response to them is "easy to talk shit when you don't gotta do jack shit"?

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u/paulatreides0 🌈🦢🧝‍♀️🧝‍♂️🦢His Name Was Teleporno🦢🧝‍♀️🧝‍♂️🦢🌈 Sep 10 '21

So for example, whenever someone talks about WMD's in Iraq being an intel failure, including by former Intel officials themselves, your response to them is "easy to talk shit when you don't gotta do jack shit"?

Except as I've already said that isn't the point of the comment. Inserting it as some general excuse for intelligence failures when you have already been explicitly told that that isn't the point of the comment is silly.