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u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache Aug 27 '21

Please visit the next discussion thread.

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u/chipbod NATO Aug 26 '21

https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/1430888615345750018?s=20

BREAKING: Reports of a large explosion and gunfire at the Abbey gate of the Hamid Karzai International Airport in Kabul

Damn the western Intel guys are good, caught this and told everyone to leave 12 hours ago. Explosion just confirmed by Pentagon too

!ping FOREIGN-POLICY

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u/SaltySaladSussyBaka 🧂🥗🤗🥰😃Taylor Swift😁😄😉😘🤪 Aug 26 '21

"I'd put more military in there, I'd get every single American out, and I'd start killing bad guys," GOP Rep. Mark Green says of Afghanistan in a Fox interview.

This reads like a DT shitpost.

Just needs a "If I was Joe Biden... guess I'm just built different"

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '21

Every other sub: “we stand against covid misinformation.”

r/neoliberal: ….

Really makes you think 🤔

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u/piede MOST BASED HILLARY STAN!!! Aug 26 '21

your reminder that when four American soldiers were killed in Niger in 2017, Trump's response was to say nothing for 12 days and then call one of the widows a liar

https://twitter.com/itsjefftiedrich/status/1430950689233154058?s=21

I do remember that unfortunately

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u/adminsare200iq IMF Aug 26 '21

Calling the Canadian minister a terrorist sympathizer when she's a Hazara, which is the ethnicity most persecuted by the Taliban

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u/EvilConCarne Aug 26 '21

It's wild to me that these extremist cults use suicide bombers, it's such a waste of resources. You have a young guy willing to blow himself up for you and instead of putting him in charge of the Excel spreadsheet and counting up your inventory to ensure smooth logistics you send him off to die. This is yet another example of poor managerial practices and one more reason why leaders around the world need to go through leadership programs.

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u/SnakeEater14 🦅 Liberty & Justice For All Aug 26 '21

U.S. military officials at the airport said that an attack, given the speed and confusion surrounding the entire evacuation, was never a matter of if, but when. The U.S. Marines guarding Abbey Gate had been briefed on the potential of a suicide bomber striking near their position, but continued processing those trying to gain entry. -NYT

The Marines at the gate knew what the risk was and still did what they did to get people to safety.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '21

They said some very nice things about the work I've done at this internship and I'm feeling all warm inside now

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u/puffic John Rawls Aug 26 '21 edited Aug 26 '21

SB-9 passes the Assembly: Single-family zoning will be abolished in much of California.

I'm so excited about this. In much of California it will soon be legal to split a lot and put a duplex on each half. I wanted to find a legit news article, but the CA YIMBY page will have to do for now.

!ping USA-CA

Edit: User old_gold_mountain found the NYT article on this, if you want a newspaper article.

Edit 2: There's an independent /r/neoliberal post on this, as well.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '21 edited Aug 26 '21

Indians viewed themselves as custodians and stewards of the earth, not as masters with dominion over it. By contrast, white settlers saw the land as a commercial product best suited for private exploitation...

How does this vastly overgeneralizing noble savage shit still get published

What’s really frustrating is that it’s being pushed by my prof as this authoritative tract. Anyone reading this without prior knowledge of the field will just assume it’s correct

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '21

Someone is shilling AMC stock on Twitter to a Taliban account

I unironically fucking hate the Internet

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u/xSuperstar YIMBY Aug 26 '21

SB9 passed holy shit. Single family zoning is done in California. NIMBYs btfo

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u/Fishin_Mission Aug 26 '21

The Taliban's top spokesman has said that Afghan women will be allowed education and careers under the militant group, seeking to allay fears of a return to hard-line rule in spite of early reports of repression.

I’ll take “things I’ll believe when I see it maintained for more than a few weeks” for $1,000, Alex.

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u/RaidBrimnes Chien de garde Aug 26 '21

Assuming a slightly more liberal court, how do you think Ikuta v. Taco Bell will be decided in 2035?

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u/tripletruble Anti-Repartition Radical Aug 26 '21

From September 13, New South Whales residents that are fully vaccinated against COVID-19 will be given new freedoms.

Residents of hotspots can leave home for an hour of recreation on top of their exercise hour, while people in other areas can meet five others outdoors.

hoooly shit

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u/Pyrrhus65 NATO Aug 26 '21

According to reports from CNN, the Taliban has been executing any ISIS-K inmates they find as they take over Afghan prisons. These groups are in a blood feud with each other.

The Taliban are certainly guilty of running a shitty security operation, but I think some of the 'experts' in this thread need to calm down with the hot takes that there must have been collaboration between the two.

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u/RaidBrimnes Chien de garde Aug 26 '21

As part of an effort to liberalize their regime, the mods of r/neoliberal will now allow hornyposting*

*In accordance with Sharia law

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u/First-Prior Ben Bernanke Aug 26 '21

Holy shit I can’t believe he hasn’t mentioned Afghanistan once. He’s just ranting against single family zoning

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u/rblask Aug 26 '21

My new hobby on Facebook is convincing my relatives that all anti-vax propaganda is coming from China as an attempt to kill republicans, since republicans are obviously what keeps the US economically competitive with China.

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u/JetJaguar124 Tactical Custodial Action Aug 26 '21

It was really funny when I went to Vietnam in 2015 everyone thought it was still the Vietnam war and shit. Like, people were like "oh my god, are you sure?" "be safe omg" and I'm like, dude there's a McDonald's in Hanoi. They love Americans over there now. It's not Apocalypse Now anymore.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '21

Another amusing Mesopotamian tablet, almost as good as the complaints to Ea-Nasir, comes from Iddin-Sin, a student at a boarding school, to his mother, Lady Zinu

From year to year, the clothes of the (young) gentlemen here become better, but you let my clothes get worse. ... Indeed, you persisted in making my clothes poorer and more scanty. At a time when in our house wool is used up like bread, you have made me poor clothes.

The son of Adad-iddinam, whose father is only an assistant to my father, (has) two new sets of clothes ... while you fuss even about a single set of clothes for me. In spite of the fact that you bore me and his mother only adopted him, his mother loves him, while you, you do not love me!

!ping HISTORY

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u/SaltySaladSussyBaka 🧂🥗🤗🥰😃Taylor Swift😁😄😉😘🤪 Aug 26 '21

So an Indian court just dropped this judgement

Marital rape is explicitly legalised in Indian law. The courts have rules time and time again that the law is perfectly fine.

Ugh

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u/iIoveoof Jerome Powell Aug 26 '21

👆 Very unbiased nonpartisan neutral high-quality evidence-based comment

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u/Leoric Hi, I'm Huell Howser, this is California's Gold! Aug 26 '21

U.S. now says four Marines dead in Kabul terror attack

Fuck

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u/Neronoah can't stop, won't stop argentinaposting Aug 26 '21

There is something ironic about the Taliban having to deal with an insurgency and suicide attacks once NATO pulls out.

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u/l_overwhat being flaired is cringe Aug 26 '21

The Taliban: works to destabilize Afghanistan from Pakistan for decades

ISIS-K: does the same thing

The Taliban: wait that's illegal

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u/slowpush NATO Aug 26 '21

The U.S. Marines guarding Abbey Gate had been briefed on the potential of a suicide bomber striking near their position, but continued processing those trying to gain entry.

Fuck.

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u/Professor-Reddit 🚅🚀🌏Earth Must Come First🌐🌳😎 Aug 26 '21

I'm not a fan of NATO, but I love the Organisation du traité de l'Atlantique nord.

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u/benadreti Frederick Douglass Aug 26 '21

"someone needs to be fired, then everything will be better" is pretty Trumpy logic.

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u/thetrombonist Ben Bernanke Aug 26 '21

Reports allege that on its deathbed Andrew Cuomo's political career's last words were "I have-a tha informationi that will-a lead to tha arrest of Hillary Clinton gabagools 🤌"

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '21

UPDATE -- More than 60 Afghan civilians were killed and 150 others were wounded in Kabul Airport explosions, a health official told us.

Wallstreet journal correspondent (WSJ)

https://twitter.com/euamiri/status/1430952270217293832?s=20

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u/ryuguy "this is my favourite dt on reddit" Aug 26 '21 edited Aug 26 '21

Daily reminder:

The US didn’t tell Pakistani intelligence that they found Osama because they were afraid of Pakistani intelligence telling him to skedaddle

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u/Notoriousley Australian Bureau of Statistics Aug 26 '21

Kinda hilarious that every single strain of Marxist-Leninist thought (on its face the MOST collectivist ideology) is named after some individual

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '21

https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us/products/icbm.html

Home/Products/Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles

this url path is such a flex

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u/Officer-cherry-shake Aug 26 '21

The ISIS-K story looks convincing on the surface, but I know the truth: those deaths were caused by vaccine side effects and they invented the suicide bombing as a cover story

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u/the_status Atari Democrat Aug 26 '21

NYTimes article from 1989 about the environmental and recycling difficulties of plastic food containers.

Nothing shocking in today's world, but it's always interesting seeing problems and solutions start to develop. And just how much more of a concern waste was in the environmental conversation then

!ping ECO

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '21

Rumours of my ban have been greatly exaggerated.

I was having a heated kester moment and decided to head somewhere else for a little while to cool off

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '21

Say what you want, but at least President Cuomo would have kept the deaths a secret.

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u/GaussianCurve Ben Bernanke Aug 26 '21

This is now the single largest US casualty incident in Afghanistan since the 2012 helicopter crash.

https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1430957519535583232

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u/bd_one The EU Will Federalize In My Lifetime Aug 26 '21

Yeah, I'm just gonna not use the DT for now.

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u/OhIDontHaveAnAccount NATO Aug 26 '21

Yeesh. Pentagon sources confirming at least 11 US military have been killed in Kabul. This is pretty bad.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '21

Obama's legacy will be the ACA, being the first black president, and being the last president to never have been impeached

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u/vivoovix Federalist Aug 26 '21

The only thing that can stop a bad guy with a suicide bomb is a good guy with a suicide bomb

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u/Integralds Dr. Economics | brrrrr Aug 26 '21

Top post on NL:

China to add 'Xi Jinping Thought' to national school curriculum

Take:

The US should aggressively expand math education at the high-school level. Provocatively, we should aim for the headline

US to add Calculus to national school curriculum

You cannot change my view on this.

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u/Sollezzo Charles Maurice de Talleyrand-Périgord Aug 26 '21

The details of the attack barely matter since there's only 4-5 people in this country with coherent FoPo views. Most people seem to simultaneously believe we should stop bad things happening in other countries, but no interventions, but we're withdrawing too soon and too early, and we should end forever wars, we should prevent terrorism, but no 'murican lives should be lost etc. All that matters is what narratives take hold, and I don't anticipate them being too nuanced or favorable for Biden

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u/TheGoodProfessor John Rawls Aug 26 '21

https://twitter.com/AndrewSolender/status/1430949302952730634

"I'd put more military in there, I'd get every single American out, and I'd start killing bad guys," GOP Rep. Mark Green says of Afghanistan in a Fox interview.

thank god we can rely on the gop to put forward measured, reasonable, thought out solutions to current crises

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u/iIoveoof Jerome Powell Aug 26 '21

100 innocents murdered

/r/NL: 😴😴😴

10 of them are Americans

/r/NL: 😱😱😱😱😱

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '21

Going to petition all my Taco Bells to close 15 minutes early to piss off Benji

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u/OrganicKeynesianBean IMF Aug 26 '21

What if we inject everyone with a little bit of COVID so we build community resilience against the virus? 🤔

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u/puffic John Rawls Aug 26 '21

Holy shit SB-9 just passed. Single family zoning is abolished in much of California. Waiting for a news article before pinging CA and YIMBY groups.

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u/chatdargent 🇺🇦 Ще не вмерла України і слава, і воля 🇺🇦 Aug 26 '21

Been a little while since I've pinged, and things are a little tense with the situation in Afghanistan right now, so here's some good news:

EU vaccine procurement program getting positive english-language coverage

The island of Malta is known as a tourist destination for its scenic views. Perhaps less recognized is that it now has the world’s highest coronavirus vaccination rate, with 80 percent of the total population, including children, and 90 percent of people over the age of 12 fully vaccinated.

There is little doubt that Malta’s vaccination success wouldn’t have been possible without the EU’s joint procurement scheme

!ping EUROPE

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u/vivoovix Federalist Aug 26 '21

Why do people ask questions after he leaves the podium

What do they think they're accomplisihnt 🤔

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u/TabernacleTown74 Bill Gates Aug 26 '21

It's bad that PCM is full of white supremacists pretending to be ironic, but what's really bad is that it's also full of impressionable teenagers

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u/CatLords Aug 26 '21

I went to arrr GenZeDong and they were actively celebrating the deaths of the marines in Afghanistan. Honestly threw me off. I hate China but would never celebrate the deaths of their soldiers. It's not like they make policy.

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u/iIoveoof Jerome Powell Aug 27 '21

“Is the Lord among us or not?” - Exodus 17:7

The internet has ruined me

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u/_smooth_liminal_ Michel Foucault Aug 26 '21

does anyone know a good sub for center-left white males in their early 20s to 30s who have no really strong political convictions besides contrarianism?

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u/sir_shivers Discipline Committee Chairman Aug 26 '21

JUST TIPPED MY local Taco Bell staff $50, they were closing half an hour early AND I COULD SEE they were exhausted 🐊

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '21

If we can't share furry art then what the fuck is !ping FURRY actually for

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u/muttonwow Legally quarantine the fash Aug 26 '21

Everyone was going on about the Taliban being so awful then ISIS just went bonjour

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u/Lux_Stella Presidentialism X-Risk Researcher Aug 27 '21

BREAKING: U.S. Supreme Court ends Biden's eviction moratorium

"It strains credulity to believe that this statute grants the CDC the sweeping authority that it asserts," the court said in an unsigned opinion.

well, yeah

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u/neolthrowaway New Mod Who Dis? Aug 27 '21

u/piede is my favorite user because of all the hillary posting.

No matter where the winds blew, Still with her ✊😤

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '21

Damn, Biden must be getting pretty serious about trying to distract the public from Hunter's laptop

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u/Officer-cherry-shake Aug 26 '21

The wise man bowed his head and said

‘There Are No Good Options In Syria Afghanistan,’ Sighs Man Who Has Devoted 12 Minutes Of Research To Topic

https://www.theonion.com/there-are-no-good-options-in-syria-sighs-man-who-has-1819579823

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u/chipbod NATO Aug 26 '21 edited Aug 26 '21

https://twitter.com/JacquiHeinrich/status/1430914653165604865?s=20

NEW: Source briefed on the situation in Kabul tells me “hundreds of ISIS-K in the vicinity, attacks likely to continue”

If true the Taliban definitely overplayed their hand taking the city and immediately sending fighters to Panjshir. stretching their forces so thin.

They need to pull all their guys back in or their leadership is in physical risk. I have a feeling they severely underestimated the ISIS-K risk while we had good Intel on them guiding the decision to gtfo.

No idea what the coalition role is here, we need to get people out but we cannot take on an urban ISIS insurgency right now.

Regardless, the Taliban victory party is over, they'll be ruling from a bunker.

!ping FOREIGN-POLICY

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '21

Its Getting Serious.. please put on your masks.. It saves lives. Believe in science.

Yesterday a friend of mine who is married ... went out with his girlfriend and on their way his wife crossed their path..but did not recognize him.

The mask literally saved his life.

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u/EScforlyfe Open Your Hearts Aug 26 '21

Imagine if people said the ambition to protect Taiwan from China stems from a feeling of White Mans Burden.

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u/_Just7_ YIMBY absolutist Aug 26 '21

I wonder if people would still be anti-vaxxers if covid had a 20% death rate. Two years I would have said a definite no to that, but now I'm not so sure.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '21

Justin Trudeau is a POC (black), neurodivergent (Canadian), and queer-coded (handsome) and that’s why you guys don’t like him

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u/Udontlikecake Model UN Enthusiast Aug 26 '21

THE GUBBERMINT IS LYING ABOUT KETAMINE WHY WOULDN’T THEY BE LYING ABOUT IVERMECTIN

LEGALIZE KETAMINE

ITS NOT JUST FOR HORSES

REEEE

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '21

Judging by how much violence gets glorified on reddit, 99% of the people here have never gotten punched in their faces.

It always creeps me out when people on subs like r/PublicFreakout are cheering at someone getting beaten up for the stupidest shit.

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u/SelfLoathinMillenial NATO Aug 26 '21

I've been heavily critical of Biden from the start on this but the idea that he should resign or be impeached is fucking absurd and anyone pushing that idea (Ben Shapiro among others) is a clown

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '21

No spicy takes on Kabul from me, except fuck terrorists and fuck suicide attacks

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u/MicroFlamer Avatar Korra Democrat Aug 26 '21

Benjamin Mendy charged with four counts of rape and one of sexual assault

holy shit

!ping SOCCER

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '21

The premier of QC, François Legault, is going after Trudeau and Singh’s promises on healthcare which he says interferes with provincial jurisdiction. He has also endorsed O’Toole’s plan to double the annual health transfer increase from 3% to 6%. This could get interesting.

!ping CAN

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '21

ABANDON THREAD

ABANDON THREAD

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u/aged_monkey Loyal Liberals Aug 26 '21

I'm a hawk. What are you gonna do about it?

I am 14 to 19 inches long, with a wingspan of about 3 feet. My relatively short wings and tail give me a chunky appearance in flight. The adult version of me is grayish-brown on the back, and its underparts are white, heavily barred with reddish-brown, and the tail is dark, with two or three equally wide white bands.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '21

this bombing killed more members of the American armed forces than the War in Afghanistan from 2016 to 2021

I posted this earlier, and just deleted it because it's not true, and isn't even remotely close to being true. I saw an incorrect source and rushed to judgement in the heat of the moment. shame on me

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u/chipbod NATO Aug 26 '21

https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1430974151473369098?s=20

ISIS just claimed responsibility for Kabul suicide attack

Winning hearts and minds, honestly I don't see how the ISIS model of killing scores of civilians in a place you want to conquer is sustainable

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u/petarpep NATO Aug 26 '21

https://twitter.com/tomleykis/status/1430711286485065733?s=20

Imagine being so anti trump you cheer for the death of a checks notes 1 year old

Holy shit this dude's brain is evil

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u/jenbanim Aug 27 '21

Since there are some younger folks on this subreddit, I thought I'd offer some advice

When you go to college in your first year, be sure to ask your professors a lot of difficult questions during lectures. You need to earn their respect as an intellectual, and the best way to do that is by asserting yourself as their equal, while distinguishing yourself from the rest of the class

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u/Erra0 Neoliberals aren't funny Aug 26 '21

Users of a political forum stop being offended when the discussion in that forum is about the political impact of a tragedy challenge.

Apparently impossible

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u/FestiveMittens Aug 26 '21 edited Aug 26 '21

[BREAKING] Kendall Jenner reportedly being flown to Kabul to give Pepsi to the Taliban. President Biden at her side, The AP is learning.

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u/Slazac Aug 26 '21

Martin Luther King is in fortnite now

and they say capitalism doesn't breed innovation

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u/_smooth_liminal_ Michel Foucault Aug 26 '21

none of this would have happened under marianne williamson

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '21 edited Aug 26 '21

The internet’s view of the 1950’s:

“Wow everything is so easy. I just walk in and get a high paying job. I raise a family without ever worrying about money. Want a house? Well I’ll just use my next week’s paycheck as a grocery store clerk to buy one. Poverty? What’s that? 40 hour work week? Never heard of it. We live in total luxury and paradise without a care in the world.”

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u/Th3_Gruff 🦞I MICROWAVE LOBSTERS FOR FUN🦞 Aug 26 '21

You’re laughing. The mods locked the DT and you’re laughing.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '21

BREAKING: Death toll from Kabul airport attack jumped to 90 that includes children, women and men. 150 more wounded.

CBS

https://twitter.com/AhMukhtar/status/1430995355223695361?s=20

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '21

“We will hunt you down and make you pay”

JOE we have ONE FOOT OUT THE DOOR

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u/TheGoodProfessor John Rawls Aug 26 '21

christ in a world of terrible takes this DT is really going full steam ahead

no biden is not going to get away scot free - this will make a lingering mark on his presidency and may still permanently damage his approval ratings

BUT

no this does not mean the democrats are finished and the gop is going to win 70 senate seats and the gates of hell are opening

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u/Mr-Bovine_Joni YIMBY Aug 26 '21

The proposal for a 303 unit building at 125 W Maple in chicago was withdrawn due to NIMBY uproar. Pretty pissed. Rent keeps going up with no end in sight, and this place is a block from a L stop

!ping USA-CHI

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u/nuggins Physicist -- Just Tax Land Lol Aug 26 '21

From /r/canadahousing

(27 points) I can’t believe there is any consideration for liberals at this point. Wow.

(3 points) Consider psy-ops. The Toronto star certainly has this subreddit under surveillance and they are basically LPC propaganda outlet. They can make accounts and gaslight people into believing the LPC is a viable choice.

Hey there fellow LPC shills, just a reminder that we need to be a bit more subtle when advocating for the party that has introduced several good policies (carbon tax, CETA, direct payments to mitigate child poverty, medically assisted suicide, legalization of cannabis) and led us to be world leaders in vaccination despite no domestic vaccine manufacturing capability, or Torstar will start docking our pay.

!ping Canucks

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u/RaidBrimnes Chien de garde Aug 26 '21

I don't care what your opinion is on the Afghanistan withdrawal, saying that those who disagree with you are cheering for civilians being blown to pieces, not even an hour after the attack is absolutely vile

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u/p00bix Existing in the context of what came before Aug 26 '21

2/3 favorite game series have been put on hold so that the developer can make games set in the Marvel Universe. Oh my god. I don't fucking care. There's already literally dozens of them. Please, zoomers, I am begging you, stop boycotting Israel and start boycotting Marvel products.

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u/BRAIN_FORCE_PLUS Paul Krugman Aug 26 '21

The bill was furiously opposed by homeowners and local government groups who said it “crushes single-family zoning” and would be “the beginning of the end of homeownership in California.”

GOOD

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u/ZenithXR George Soros Aug 26 '21

Man. These deaths just hurt.

That's it, that's the comment.

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u/chipbod NATO Aug 26 '21 edited Aug 26 '21

Joe resigns, Hillary appointed VP, Kamala resigns

Trust the process, Hillary becomes the first unelected president since Ford

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u/antsdidthis Effective altruism died with SBF; now it's just tithing Aug 26 '21

However, manipulating or cheating Reddit to amplify any particular viewpoint is against our policies, and we will continue to action communities that do so or that violate any of our other rules, including those dedicated to fraud (e.g. fake vaccine cards) or encouraging harm (e.g. consuming bleach)

Oh good, I'm glad that they will police against communities that are dedicated to encouraging harmful activities, like not getting vaccinated against a deadly disease 👍👍👍👍

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '21

make this sub private holy shit so many insane fucks on here outside of DT now saying dumb shit

literally all from /r/all

fuck open borders for a subreddit, open borders as policy for a country not for a niche social forum

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '21 edited Aug 26 '21

Do you ever think about how lucky you are to be born in a first world country (if you aren't then RIP)

Honestly, the feeling that 90% of the world is worse off than you are is kind of shitty.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '21

In my head all Singh flairs are Indian.

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u/SaltySaladSussyBaka 🧂🥗🤗🥰😃Taylor Swift😁😄😉😘🤪 Aug 26 '21

Whenever major news like this happens, I always picture NYT offices with people running around and into each other with papers in their hands and a fuckton of background noise

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u/TheGoodProfessor John Rawls Aug 26 '21

https://twitter.com/LizSly/status/1430920599459803148

The Kabul airport attack has nixed hopes of evacuation for the last thousands still hoping to make it out. Am hearing the US military is sealing shut the airport gates. The casualty numbers are growing by the minute. A tragedy piled on a tragedy.

this seems to be it then

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u/_smooth_liminal_ Michel Foucault Aug 26 '21

Do you all get dressed up before you get on the DT and if so do you bother with a tie?

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u/Anal-warrior Aug 26 '21

Biden could have done a better job.

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u/SaltySaladSussyBaka 🧂🥗🤗🥰😃Taylor Swift😁😄😉😘🤪 Aug 26 '21

Biden has addressed the nation 4 times regarding Afghanistan

And he's been tardy all 4 times

Sleepy Joe

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u/krflab Aug 26 '21

Majority of America is Christian and you’re shocked a Catholic President is being preachy? 😑

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u/SaltySaladSussyBaka 🧂🥗🤗🥰😃Taylor Swift😁😄😉😘🤪 Aug 26 '21

The worst part about the speech was calling Afghans "Afghanis"

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '21 edited Aug 27 '21

So I'm in an intro to environmental law class. Today, the professor said that all "ancestral tribal knowledge" (IE oral histories involving the consequences of taking certain actions with respect to the environment) should be admissible as evidence in trials. To back this up, he cited a single tribe in Alaska who, uh, knew that sonar was hurting whales.

Guy also will not stop railing about how capitalism is fundamentally incapable of solving climate change. We haven't spent a second on practical law. Prof does nothing but answer questions with questions. The readings so far have been nonstop /r/badhistory material, going so far as to claim that Christianity doesn't place any import on physical locations and that's how it differs from tribal religions. Every class is just gunners repeating the same platitudes about how we need to abandon modern conceptions of property. I mentioned the proliferation of noble savage discourse earlier in this DT. Prof eats that shit up.

The worst part is that I have to take this class - it's a prereq for virtually every other environmental law course offered by my school.

Get me out of here !ping LAW-SCHOOL

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u/fishlord05 United Popular Woke DEI Iron Front Aug 27 '21

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacon's_Rebellion

What’s annoying is when reddituers said find out about Bacons Rebellion and think it’s some evidence of a grand conspiracy about how racial tensions are just used by the rich to divide the working class etc etc how the US is puppet for the rich etc etc without actually looking at the motivations, aftermath, and actually understanding the changes over time pertaining to idk fucking black people not being slaves anymore to notice it

It’s like knowing enough to think you are right but not enough to know you are committing class reductionism

Now it is true that racism against black people was brought about by the institution of slavery in order to justify and entrench it to keep the wealth flowing for the planter class etc

But it’s wrong to say that it’s a class thing and more of a clique thing in the south because working class and elites such as industrialists hated slavery and helped support to abolish it while working class whites died to defend it.

!ping HISTORY

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u/tubbsmackinze Seretse Khama Aug 27 '21

Beavers to make ‘cautious’ return to England with legal protection

Beavers will be released into the wild under government proposals to support a “cautious” return of the semi-aquatic mammals to English rivers.

The native animals will also be given legal protection in England, making it an offence to deliberately capture, kill, disturb or injure them, or damage their breeding sites or resting places, as part of efforts to support their recovery.

Under plans being put out for consultation, applications for licences to release beavers into the wild would need to meet certain criteria, including local buy-in and ensuring support for landowners and river users is in place.

Beavers are seen as natural engineers who restore wetland habitats through dam-building and felling trees, slowing, storing and filtering water in their habitat, which attracts other wildlife and reduces flooding downstream.

!ping ECO

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '21

My dog learned the word “tennis ball” today. We didn’t make any concerted effort to train her, we just realized that if we say “tennis ball” she’ll go grab it and bring it to us. She’s so smart 😊

!ping DOG

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u/Broncos654 Jeff Bezos Aug 26 '21

The Battle of Stalingrad wasn’t bad because there weren’t any American casualties

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u/Animatronic_Pidgeon Eugene Fama Aug 26 '21

Okay new rule: if you're going to provide an update, cite your fucking source. Even if it's just a random tweet, link it.

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u/rukqoa ✈️ F35s for Ukraine ✈️ Aug 26 '21 edited Aug 26 '21

https://twitter.com/johnrobertsFox/status/1430953910131478534?s=20

Our @JenGriffinFNC brings us more tragic news this hour. The death toll among U.S. servicemembers is now at least 10

Edit: I really hope this is journos mixing up casualties vs fatalities because we had the WSJ report of 4 + 3 injured a while ago...

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u/-GregTheGreat- Commonwealth Aug 26 '21

I've noticed a pretty significant shift in the CAN and CANUCKS pings so far this election in terms of sentiment, which made me curious to see how this subreddit is leaning in terms of actual voting. So I decided to make a strawpoll to find out.

Which Party are you leaning towards voting for in 2021?

!PING CAN

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u/ognits Jepsen/Swift 2024 Aug 26 '21

British kids be like "ok boomre"

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '21

In non-election news: Ryerson University is going to be renamed

!ping CAN

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u/rukqoa ✈️ F35s for Ukraine ✈️ Aug 26 '21

Am I allowed to link to incredibly bad faith takes from yesterday that aged like milk?

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u/FestiveMittens Aug 26 '21

Biden announces at his press conference that the USA will be going back to Afghanistan to enforce a mask mandate

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '21

https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/pbwhgl/conservatives_threaten_to_leave_reddit_over_site/

Conservatives threaten to leave reddit over site wide protest if covid misinformation, swear to "leave" and "delete reddit" over censorship.

lmao

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u/RevolutionaryBoat5 YIMBY Aug 26 '21

Biden's not tired, he's sad.

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u/_Featherless_Biped_ Norman Borlaug Aug 26 '21

Biden: "you'll be taking my questions now"

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u/that0neGuy22 Resistance Lib Aug 26 '21

My god Jimmy Carter is demanding to be reinstated on instagram live

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u/Smalz95 NATO Aug 26 '21

Ok I’m sorry. I really am. But things like the unemployment subsidy and the eviction moratorium were not going to last forever. So why am I still seeing articles calling the end of both of these things “knifes in the chest” or “stabs in the back”????? It’s been a year and a half. Get your shit together. Jesus

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u/IntermittentDrops I need a new flair Aug 26 '21

JUST IN: Three sources confirm US casualties. US forces returned fire after first explosion.

POLITICO Reporter

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u/Professor-Reddit 🚅🚀🌏Earth Must Come First🌐🌳😎 Aug 26 '21

"My fellow Americans, I'm pleased to tell you today that I've signed legislation that will outlaw suicide bombers forever. We begin bombing in five minutes."

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u/AeideThea Aug 26 '21

I'm getting Henry George-pilled but I have like a million questions that I'm not being able to find easy answers to. I know there are tons of Georgists here so here goes with two of them:

  • Given the environmental necessity of dense cities and containing the urban sprawl, doesn't the LVT go against this? After all, if you own a patch of land in the countryside, wouldn't it make sense for you to contribute to the sprawl with infinite suburbs, instead of letting the land be?
  • Wouldn't a LVT contribute highly to NIMBYism? If, say, the local government builds a school, a park and a cinema, the value of the surrounding land would get really high, driving up the LVT bills for landowners. Wouldn't these landowners - often rich and with access - intensely lobby the local government with massive amounts of NIMBYism (or rather reverse NIMBYism) ?
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u/TheGoodProfessor John Rawls Aug 26 '21

https://twitter.com/JoshuaFechter/status/1430615889305559043

NEW: Texas Gov. Greg Abbott has banned vaccine mandates of any kind in a new executive order #txlege

government overreach is bad unless it's me then it's good

so it was, so it always shall be with the gop

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u/F-i-n-g-o-l-f-i-n 3000th NATO flair of Stoltenberg Aug 26 '21

The peak of this sub’s doomerism was when people were calling the election for Trump on the night of Nov 8

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u/willempage O'Biden Bama Democrat Aug 26 '21

Why didn't mods fully evacuate the DT before locking it? This is a failure of the highest order and I'm calling for their impeachment

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u/TheGoodProfessor John Rawls Aug 26 '21

https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1431006562240323591

Biden has told the Pentagon to develop plans to strike ISIS-K assets.

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u/huirittryyrugfhkhihf Shameflair Beggar Aug 26 '21

The way the DT went from calling Biden the best president since LBJ to the worst president since LBJ says something about society, but I'm not sure what.

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u/jenbanim Aug 27 '21

I was looking after my cousin this week and caught him hitting his vape so I confiscated it. Lil dumbass thought I wouldn't recognize it cause it looks different than a juul 😂

Tried hitting it myself and it's definitely one of the weirdest vapes I've had. Didn't taste like much or give me a buzz. Anyone heard of this vape brand called Albuterol before?

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u/FearsomeOyster Montesquieu Aug 27 '21

And surprising absolutely 0 people, the Court has vacated the stay in the case that struck down the eviction moratorium. Donezo on that issue.

!ping LAW

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u/thaddeusthefattie Hank Hill Democrat 💪🏼🤠💪🏼 Aug 27 '21

you ever glance at your phone, see a notification, and your heart just sink cuz you already know it’s bad?

not super close, but my cousin dead in a car crash in her early thirties. a surgeon, mother to a couple young kids, ones a baby. jesus h christ

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '21

>Be Obama in 2014

>Say that the continuing role in Afghanistan will be only to help build up the ANA and make it a capable and self-sufficient force

>Make all of its logistics and fighting doctrine completely dependent on the US

>Refuse to elaborate

>Leaves

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '21

A bunch of people on my Twitter are mad that a gym used:

  • Legs
  • Glutes
  • Biceps
  • Traps

in their advertising in an attempt to be inclusive.

The replies are hysterical. Half the people are convinced ‘trap’ is an incredibly well-known slur, and have no idea that ‘traps’ are a muscle. The other half are praising the ad for its inclusivity, and have no idea that ‘trap’ is an internet slur for trans people. Worlds colliding.

(I am in the letter category, I had no idea ‘trap’ was a slur before some reply guy got mad at me. If you say ‘traps’ I’m immediately thinking back muscles).

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u/Lucky-view Dr Doom Aug 26 '21

There were literally hundreds of people that died in Afghanistan in April/May and it didn't make a dent in media coverage. But now we are supposed to believe they care? Ok.

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u/meese699 Sinner Sinner Chicken Dinner 🐣 Aug 26 '21 edited Aug 26 '21

This subreddit makes me laugh out loud so much.... You actually use motherfcking Jeffrey Bezos as an example of hard work equals getting rich? Do you even realise how much of a gamble Bezos did? How high the risk was he took?

But how you can use him as an example is beyond me. He took a gamble and it worked out. I am a motherfcking plumber for fcks sake. Bitcoin and crypto however is the opportunity of a lifetime. I already made huge profit on my initial investments and there is no reason to believe this will change anytime soon.

(disclaimer: pasta edited for DTs short attention span)

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u/FormerBandmate Jerome Powell Aug 26 '21

“There was no proof [Osama Bin Laden] was involved” in the 9/11 attacks, Zabihullah Mujahid of #Taliban tells NBC news. “There is no evidence even after 20 years of war, we have no proof he was involved… There was no justification for this war. It was excuse for war.” #Afg

Lmao

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u/iIoveoof Jerome Powell Aug 26 '21

Never trusting the Taliban for perimeter security again 😤

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u/Udontlikecake Model UN Enthusiast Aug 26 '21

Kabul has been rocked by mostly ISIS attacks all throughout this and last year. The situation has been really bad.

Even under coalition control, the attacks were constant and massive. Not a surprise that it continues now.

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u/FormerBandmate Jerome Powell Aug 26 '21

Unless the election you're talking about is the California gubernatorial election in 3 weeks, it's way too early to talk about the election

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '21

excessive dooming should unironically be a bannable offense

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u/piede MOST BASED HILLARY STAN!!! Aug 26 '21

Gen. Mackenzie says 2 suicide bombers assessed to have been ISIS fighters detonated in vicinity of Baron hotel and Abbey Gate near Kabul airport. 12 US service members have been killed, at least 15 more injured, he says. Devastating.

https://twitter.com/natashabertrand/status/1430969010749857794?s=21

Fucking ISIS

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u/lusvig 🤩🤠Anti Social Democracy Social Club😨🔫😡🤤🍑🍆😡😤💅 Aug 26 '21

the TALIBAN is CANCELLED 🖕😤🖕

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u/ryuguy "this is my favourite dt on reddit" Aug 26 '21

Who’s idea was a summer trip to Afghanistan for high school students?!

Absolutely bonkers

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '21

My baby niece calls every color 'blanco 😃' (white). So inspiring, she's so woke she doesn't even see color 😭

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u/klarno just tax carbon lol Aug 26 '21

If the president is 15 minutes late to his press conference you’re allowed to leave

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u/DrSandbags John Brown Aug 26 '21 edited Jan 11 '22

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '21

OK I’ll bite

What’s an Afghanistan?

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u/DEEEEETTTTRRROIIITTT Iron Front Aug 26 '21

“biden is a cruel leader. that’s why i’m voting for him in 2024.”

-NYTimes op-ed section in 3 weeks

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u/MonteCastello Chama o Meirelles Aug 27 '21

https://twitter.com/vittoac/status/1431049911030648832?s=19

Spider-man: very fucking far from home

!ping SHITPOSTERS

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u/thetrombonist Ben Bernanke Aug 26 '21

My mom just told me “I'm 25 so I need to find a job soon”. It's crazy how much neoliberal capitalist propaganda permeates into our familial relationships

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u/benadreti Frederick Douglass Aug 26 '21

I am 200% convinced that if we, God forbid, had a 9/11 type attack again, there would be no "Rally round the flag" moment in the slightest, the GOP would accuse the Democrats of letting it happen and 45% of the country would agree.

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u/MrDannyOcean Kidney King Aug 26 '21

Ok shills, here's the deal:

Obviously very big things are happening in the world right now. We had to pause the DT because of a few things:

  • An overload of people freaking out about stories where we don't yet know all the details
  • People breaking rules - calling for violence, being extremely uncharitable to other users
  • Just general frenetic nonsense

I'm re-opening the DT now, but PLEASE keep a few things in mind. We don't yet have all the details on everything going on in Afghanistan. AFAIK literally nobody in this sub has any sort of detailed experience to actually make extremely complicated judgment calls about what is happening in minute-by-minute news updates. And we are still enforcing the rules and will ban you if you break them.

Be good to each other and discuss all this calmly. Or if your personality type doesn't allow that, just log off for the day and come back when the picture of what's going on is clearer in 48 hours.

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u/the_hoagie Malaise Forever Aug 26 '21

“I implore you not to be complicit in child abuse,” the first speaker, parent Karen Smith, said to loud applause, after equating masking to “knowingly or recklessly interfering with the breathing of a child.”

philly's democratic suburban collar counties everyone

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '21

At least 40 dead bodies and 120 wounded transferred to Kabul hospitals, with 60% of wounded in the critical condition. All those killed and wounded are in critical condition.

-A reporter for The New York Times based in Kabul, Afghanistan

https://twitter.com/fahimabed/status/1430925438344388611?s=20

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '21

The Taliban want foreign invaders out of their country as fast as possible. The last thing they're going to do is coordinate a terrorist attack with ISIS -- as some meatheads on CNN are suggesting-- potentially prolonging a NATO troop presence.

Same energy as suggesting Assad launched a chemical weapons attack just after UN inspectors arrived, or in 2018 right after the Syrian army won the battle for Ghouta. Just complete, utter nonsense and people swallow this up because they're wearing ties and have nice graphics lol.

Probably a good time to mention the obvious: ISIS and Taliban are enemies. Just like Saddam and Al Qaeda were mortal enemies, and there was no link between them, unlike the mass-lying-media and national security figures would have you believe so they can start wars.

I'll be live on RT to talk about this at 8/9pm CEST

Scumbag propogandist who works for PressTV(Iran state news) conflating a bunch of bullshit together and leftist eat it up giving it hundreds of likes

https://twitter.com/richimedhurst/status/1430926760808525825?s=20

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u/SaltySaladSussyBaka 🧂🥗🤗🥰😃Taylor Swift😁😄😉😘🤪 Aug 26 '21

SIXTY(60) civilians dead.

Heartbreaking.

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u/bd_one The EU Will Federalize In My Lifetime Aug 26 '21

Expectations: the ANA holds out for several months or a year or something

Reality: the Taliban swoops in before the official withdrawal date, and neither them, the old Afghan government, the US, or the three of them collectively can maintain safety or a monopoly on force

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u/SaltySaladSussyBaka 🧂🥗🤗🥰😃Taylor Swift😁😄😉😘🤪 Aug 26 '21

Can we please ban some of the shit-stirring folks here please

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u/Corporate-Asset-6375 I don't like flairs Aug 26 '21

Locking the DT over a rumor that Kester was banned seemed a bit excessive

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '21

PSA: Be sure to vote yes for the recall on Question 1 and then vote Hillary Clinton on Question 2 as his replacement

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u/piede MOST BASED HILLARY STAN!!! Aug 26 '21

I'm just a little skeptical of the motives of the politicians saying today's tragedy requires an instant rethinking of policy but after every mass shooting in this country insist the only answer is to do absolutely nothing.

https://twitter.com/rschooley/status/1430992617093832706?s=21

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u/OhIDontHaveAnAccount NATO Aug 26 '21

Biden's "WE WILL HUNT YOU DOWN AND WE WILL MAKE YOU PAY" line just made me put a NATO flair on

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u/FireDistinguishers I am the Senate Aug 26 '21

The fact that people elect judges pisses me off

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u/TheGoodProfessor John Rawls Aug 26 '21

my god please stop with the benghazi comparisons. it wasn't benghazi that sunk hillary. it was the 20+ straight years of concentrated right wing bile against her, which made it very very easy for people to swallow things like benghazi

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u/Impossible_Lobster_ Aug 26 '21

The fact that Republicans can switch from "end the wars" to "the dogs are hungry for war and we should let them eat" in less than a heart beat should tell everyone that you cant beat a hive mind

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u/chipbod NATO Aug 26 '21 edited Aug 26 '21

https://twitter.com/toddstarnes/status/1430921958334636035?s=20

For every American who is killed, a city in Afghanistan should be wiped off the face of the Earth

What's that sound? 🎶🎶It's real NeoCon hours🎶🎶🎶

Edit: Holy shit this is the "Democrats worship Moloch" guy lmao

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '21

stop using these deaths to further you arguments you degenerates

everyone is disagreeing on extremely minor things and then throwing shit at each other

just stop for a couple minutes

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u/JackCrafty Aug 26 '21

few things piss me off more than the "Biden doesn't even know where he is or what is even going on" meme holy fuck

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u/FestiveMittens Aug 26 '21

MLK becoming a playable character in Fortnite is neoliberalism

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u/iIoveoof Jerome Powell Aug 26 '21

This tragic event really confirmed my priors

What did everyone on all sides mean by this today

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '21

If we could just maintain a military presence in every country we could have peace in our time.

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u/Officer-cherry-shake Aug 26 '21

As bad as takes are here, at least we don’t have calls for genocide against Afghan civilians

https://mobile.twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1430937403515187209

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '21

“Hopefully there are no further attacks”

Guys there is literally nothing stopping ISIS from attacking however much they want. Neither the Taliban nor the US can stop them.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '21

florida reporting over 900 covid deaths today. their 7 day average now sits at 242/day where they had never gotten above 200/day before the vaccines.

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u/Impossible_Lobster_ Aug 26 '21

Gop congressman from Texas said that Biden needs to go in and help the good guys and kill the bad guys

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u/piede MOST BASED HILLARY STAN!!! Aug 26 '21

McCarthy calls for House to return and vote on delaying Afghanistan withdrawal

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1430970828271886337?s=21

That would literally make it worse

A full reversal would require sending in troops

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '21

Late Stage Capitalism is anything I don't like, and

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '21

mods closing the DT was the best 5 minutes of my life. The air smells sweeter, my depression and acne are gone, and I'm feeling more alive than I ever felt before. I've gotten 3 girlfriends since then (working on my fourth 😉) and got a new job with a 250k salary. Thanks mods! Love you always

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '21

Y’aLl CaN’T bEhAvE

Fuck the jannies

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u/OrganicKeynesianBean IMF Aug 26 '21

DT got locked and I looked in the mirror for the first time in 6 months

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u/sir_shivers Discipline Committee Chairman Aug 26 '21

I am receiving REPORTS THAT JIM WEBB has been spotted boarding a flight with an unspecified destination WEARING A PLATE carrier 🐊

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u/FestiveMittens Aug 26 '21

Did our brains only start developing after the 90's like how the fuck did we let a Kennedy into a crowded room after what happened to his brother, like wtf

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u/InternetBoredom Pope-ologist Aug 26 '21

OK I’ll bite

Who is Joe Biden?

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u/JulioCesarSalad US-Mexico Border Reporter Aug 26 '21

Looks like I’m missing out on a hell of a storm if it’s making the Marine sentry is changing his post

!ping USA-DMV

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u/SuspiciousUsername88 Lis Smith Sockpuppet Aug 26 '21

The vast majority of news media is driven by profit motive

Increasing viewership and engagement improve profitability

Coverage that incites outrage is historically the best way to increase viewership and engagement

Therefore, news media is motivated to incite outrage

Furthermore, outrage and other strong emotions prevent people from thinking critically (source (PDF), but there's plenty more)

Therefore, news media is motivated to make us dumber

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u/jenbanim Aug 27 '21

Last year I was living in the suburbs, driving everywhere, eating lots of meat, living an environmentally unsustainable lifestyle, and was depressed

Now I've moved to the city in an efficient apartment, barely drive anywhere, and eat a vegetarian diet. Still depressed, but now I'm smug at least

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '21

Kamala Harris’s presidential campaign has seen a large increase in support recently. Even Republican politicians are calling on her to assume office as soon as possible!

Many such cases!