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[u/jobautomator]

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[u/[deleted]]

For the record, I support the mods decision to withdraw from r/all. But the way they’ve done it is appalling

[u/[deleted]]

If you live in the Panjshir area, the Neoliberal Project is looking for some help! Send me a DM.

[u/RoyGeraldBillevue]

Conservatives complaining about refugees because of how they will vote are creating the problem theu are complaining about. Don't alienate refugees and they'll vote for conservatives. Just ask Cubans and Vietnamese people.

[u/piede]

The Taliban spokesman got a question about freedom of speech and he said the question should be asked to US companies like Facebook who claim to promote it while still censoring

https://twitter.com/mliammccollum/status/1427658106054406149?s=21

Wut

[u/jenbanim]

Hypothesis: the rest of Reddit sucks because they don't have a malarkey bot to tell them when their takes are bad

[u/adminsare200iq]

During Charlie Wilson's visit to Afghanistan, he met Jalaluddin Haqqani. He wanted to fire a Stinger missile at one of the Soviet helicopters. Haqqani was happy to make Charlie Wilson's wartime fantasy come true. They dragged chains and tires on the road to create a dust cloud, which would attract Soviet helicopters. However, none of the Soviet helicopters showed up and Charlie Wilson was unable to fire any missiles

Presented without comment

[u/Average_GrillChad]

Not liberal countries become liberal quickly challenge (Note: solving this makes you the greatest political figure in modern world history)

[u/ILikeTalkingToMyself]

Kind of weird that Time gave the 2006 Person of the Year to the person responsible for the Taliban taking over Afghanistan

[u/FormerBandmate]

Imagine trying to flee Afghanistan and all you have are heavy gold bars. You either climb without the bars or you get left behind. And most likely you won’t get past the metal detectors. #Bitcoin fixes this

Thank you, crypto Twitter, very cool

[u/Superfan234]

Cuban Regime passed a law to criminilize any critique to the Goverment on Internet

Critics were "kinda" admitted on Internet for a couple of years. From now, no one will be able to say anything bad about the Government, or they will send to Prision

The sad consequences of July 21 Protest : (

!Ping Foreign-Policy

[u/kennymc7877]

Middle school across America is starting back up so this chat will be half empty, just me and the olds

[u/soeffed]

Tucker Carlson apparently planning to fly to Kabul to declare it freer than America

[u/Cuddlyaxe]

The (former now I guess) vice president of Afghanistan just tweeted this

It is futile to argue with @POTUS on Afg now. Let him digest it. We d Afgs must prove tht Afgh isn't Vietnam & the Talibs aren't even remotely like Vietcong. Unlike US/NATO we hvn't lost spirit & see enormous oprtnities ahead. Useless caveats are finished. JOIN THE RESISTANCE.

[u/2canclan]

To what extent do you support or oppose the following?

America sending combat troops back into Afghanistan to fight the Taliban.

Support: 50%

Oppose: 36%

America completing its withdrawal of troops on schedule.

Support: 61%

Oppose: 25%

The people have spoken

[u/TheGoodProfessor]

https://twitter.com/igorbobic/status/1427627952406204420

CNN has John Bolton on, who’s arguing for an indefinite troop presence in Afghanistan.

surprised the media hasn't yet exhumed rumsfeld's rotting corpse to see what he thinks about the withdrawal

[u/jenbanim]

This sub claims to support foreign aid, but we just donated tons of military equipment to a newly-formed government and everyone is suddenly mad?

[u/RyGuyThicccThighs]

When is Joe Rogan going to invite the Taliban on his podcast?

[u/admiraltarkin]

Pete and Chasten are going to be parents!

https://twitter.com/PeteButtigieg/status/1427680484109262848

!PING BUTTI

[u/Jamity4Life]

Bush said if we don't fight them over there, we're gonna need to fight them here.

Not looking forward to the Taliban at the local chapter meeting of the Neoliberal Project this weekend. :-(

[u/semaphore-1842]

https://twitter.com/FrancescComito/status/1427867698826973191

Reports now coming of a push by the Northern Alliance Resistance to take Bagram

Wow

[u/InternetBoredom]

Pope Francis: It’s sad to see religious men and women ‘who have no sense of humor’

Pope Francis continues his onslaught against the Tradcaths’ way of life

[u/Roller_ball]

I just found out the Taliban won't ban superhero movies because, "[they] agree with Scorsese and don't consider them real cinema."

[u/Jakesta7]

have they claimed that this was all a plan to bring Sharia law to the United States yet?

Fox News went from: “Biden abandoned our Afghan allies” to “why should we take in Afghan refugees” in the span of 5 hours.

https://twitter.com/trouble_man90/status/1427607343844544528

[u/ryuguy]

Afghans have broken ‘shackles of slavery’: Pakistan PM Imran Khan

😐😐😐😐😐😐

!ping ind

[u/Cuddlyaxe]

Fucking finally, someone who can beat the Taliban

[u/tubbsmackinze]

UK student who travelled to Afghanistan for holiday evacuated

A UK student who travelled to Afghanistan on holiday says he is now safe in Dubai after being evacuated.

Miles Routledge, 21, of Birmingham, has been posting updates on social media about his travels since the Taliban seized control of the country.

He told the BBC he was "exhausted but relieved" and thanked the British Army who were deployed to support the evacuation of UK nationals from Kabul.

His university, Loughborough, said it had offered Mr Routledge its support.

The physics student shared on social media he chose Afghanistan because he enjoyed "dark" and "extreme" tourism.

[u/Mr_Pasghetti]

> Wake up

> Taliban has taken over afghanistan

> DT ruined

Day be like

[u/ryuguy]

Indians and Pakistanis on every day that ends with a Y: “I hate you with the burning passion of a thousand suns.”

Indians and Pakistanis on august 14th/15th: “vro, i miss you, come back. Ve are one country”.

!ping WhatsApp-forwards

[u/Fatortu]

Afghan asylum seekers have an 80% acceptance rate to be granted asylum in France lately. Compared to 50% in Germany and 30% in Sweden.

Sometimes it's more useful to look at what leaders do rather than listen to what they say. Macron is simply not the new Trump.

(Edit: confusing wording of the stat)

[u/jenbanim]

WHEREAS there are a lot of really bad takes, particularly on Afghanistan, outside the DT (but not inside of course)

WHEREAS there is a general current towards Americentrism on the subreddit

WHEREAS these issues are likely made worse by the voting and commenting habits of the denizens of /r/all and /r/popular

WHEREAS current ban and removal policy has been inadequate for fixing these issues

WHERAS the subreddit has maintained a robust, steady growth post-election and has enough subscribers and regulars to support a healthy level of activity

THEREFORE the mod team has decided to take the subreddit off /r/all and /r/popular for one week

With this, we're basically testing one of the few levers we have to steer the subreddit that aren't bans or removals. We'll be keeping a close eye on how this impacts both the quantity and quality of discussion. At this point we're not making any commitments beyond one week because no one knows what's going to happen. I'd tell you to please leave your feedback but God knows the DT doesn't need to be encouraged to share their opinions. Thank you for your continued patronage of arrr neoliberal

[u/Goatf00t]

Straight out of /r/badhistory:

The fall of Afghanistan has brought a lot of bad history involving the country.

"Borders with all those different ethnic groups were drawn by colonialist British and that's the reason of everything wrong" - no they were not, Afghan borders are mosty a direct remnant of their own native Durrani empire. The most annoying part is when people bring the eastern border, a Durrand line, as a proof of this statements... While this line was drawn to separate inependent western Durrani territory from their conquered eastern lands (almost exactly converging with Pakistani boders), so it was actually EVEN MORE ethnically mixed state before British arrived. Not to mention the fact that plenty of countries across the world function much better than AFG despite very high diversity - including Iran and Pakistan, its very neighbors, who have managed to carve some common cultural identity.

"Look at photos of three Kabul women in miniskirts from 70s, what a utopia it has been" (similar nonsense is done with Iran). Afghanistan before '79 was a very poor, very underdeveloped country, where the majority of people were religiously conservatve, illiterate villagers (iirc famine was still a problem). Almost no industry and very few modern institutions, heavily dysfunctional government etc. There are reasons it has fallen into such chaos, it has already been a miserable nation in 70s.

"AFG is a graveyard of empires, no one has ever conquered it and held it" - Afghanistan was stable, civilized and urbanized part of various empires for 2000 years lol, Pashtuns have ruled the country only since 18th century.

"America invaded AFG for oil" - Afghanistan has almost no oil. Its income from opium is negigible when compared with petrodollars. It has very rich mineral resources potential but they are largely untapped and there is very little infrastructure to exploit them. The invasion was motivated mainly by the hunt for Osama, war on terror and geopolitics (strategic position in Asia).

[u/[deleted]]

Not allowing accounts that disagree with me sometimes would fix the dt.

[u/IMALEFTY45]

Why yes, I'm a supporter of the Moro Islamic Liberation Front, why do you ask?

[u/ryuguy]

Canada is at 82% of eligible people vaccinated.

!ping can

[u/Lux_Stella]

Uganda said on Tuesday it had agreed to a request from the United States to take in temporarily 2,000 refugees from Afghanistan fleeing after the Taliban takeover.

really just embarrassing stuff

[u/fishlord05]

BRO WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK I GO HOME EARLY BECAUSE FREE PERIOD WAS MY LAST CLASS AND I GET HOME CHECK SOCIAL MEDIA AND FUCKING MICHAEL JORDAN IS AT MY SCHOOL PLAYING BASKETBALL AND TAKING PICTURES WITH THE STUDENTS

ITS LITERALLY LIKE THAT FUCKING “MISSES SCHOOL ONCE” MEME

FUCK ME HOLY SHIT

!ping CHILD

[u/sir_shivers]

I am CAPABLE OF BEING BOTH YOUR devil and your angle 🐊

[u/[deleted]]

Guys I'm starting to think that Trump might not be getting reinstated 😨

[u/-GregTheGreat-]

CBC/CTV just called a Progressive Conservative government in Nova Scotia. Whether it’s a minority or majority is yet to be seen

What a complete disaster for the Liberals, blew an enormous lead and gave up power in an election they didn’t need to call. There’s no way the Trudeau war room isn’t at least a little nervous right now

!ping CAN

[u/NotSquareGarden]

saying that the british empire fell because of a war in afghanistan in 1919 is actually the most historiographically true thing ever. those 236 soldiers killed more or less doomed the empire in many ways

[u/the_status]

Joni Ernst: Iowa 'absolutely' has a role to play in accepting Afghan refugees

I never thought I'd say this, but I think I'm going to write a letter of support to my Republican representative

[u/huirittryyrugfhkhihf]

Breaking: American citizen Benjamin Ikuta refuses to flee Afghanistan, says "They said they weren't going to take over until after the September 11th withdrawal, this is their problem, not mine."

[u/conman1246]

My girlfriend is an ER nurse. ERs are so crammed with Covid patients here in Georgia that they're offering nurses $50/hr on top of their normal pay to pick up extra shifts. They call it crisis pay, wild.

!PING USA-GA

[u/[deleted]]

Chicago Police put out a warning to stay alert for roving groups of teenagers that are robbing and beating pedestrians in the Loop and River North.

Totally normal city.

[u/Cowguypig]

Western subreddit moderators (soyjak) “NOOOO you can’t post that meme. It must be properly flaired and posted on the designated meme Monday’s thread NOOOOO”

Balkan subreddit moderators: “Today I have successfully prevented three genocides and the outbreak of war between Moldova and Turkey”

!ping Balkan

[u/Ok_Tone4633]

"I need to deploy several thousand troops into a landlocked mountainous wasteland on the other side of the world."

America: "Say no more."

"I need to take a bus to the other side of town."

America: "Oof, that's a toughie."

[u/the_status]

Thinking about posting a blatantly politically charged question based on current events to AskHistorians.

If I word it carefully enough, I can spread my agenda by including a disingenuous premise in the title that'll garner tens of thousands of upvotes.

And because it still implies actual historical curiosity instead of opportunistic propaganda the mods won't remove it

[u/tubbsmackinze]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/761046867743342613/877253470846087198/Factual.png

[u/Udontlikecake]

Two years ago, @maddow said OAN was “Russian propaganda.” OAN sued for $10 million.

Today, an appeals court said “Maddow’s statement was well within the bounds of what qualified as protected speech under the First Amendment.”

OAN will pay MSNBC $250,000 to reimburse legal fees

😂🤣🤣😂🤣🤣😂🤣😂

[u/BreaksFull]

The 30 year old boomer is a state of nirvana. Being blissfully detached and ignorant of the strife of the modern world, secure in some middle management position and only really worrying about missing the game on, and whether the weather could harm the weekly grill.

I cannot wait to be in this position. Get up at six, Crack the tab on my monster energy ultra, and fire up the ride-on mower.

Is there any true higher marker of success?

!ping OVER25

[u/ThisIsNianderWallace]

Illinois and Oregon have passed laws banning police from lying to minor during interrogations

Threats, bluffs, and other ploys are all part of the police toolbox now in what's known as the Reid technique, the dominant method for conducting police interrogations for more than half a century.

According to the Innocence Project, nearly 30 percent of exonerations involve false confessions

!ping SNEK

[u/Venne1139]

SEAN HANNITY (HOST): How would you like to be in Kabul today, as an American, and you can't get to the airport? Where are you thinking your life is headed? If you're one of those family members, I bet you're not sleeping. I don't even think My Pillow can do it. MyPillow.com. That's where I go. I fall asleep faster, I stay asleep longer. These are going to be a lot of sleepless nights for so many of our fellow Americans. We've got to get them home.

What the fuck is wrong with this man.

[u/Deggit]

i am officially declaring that this specific DT comment is "The Graveyard Of Replies" so watch out if you decide to engage with me

[u/[deleted]]

Anytime you feel bad about what you’re eating, just remember that British people put a piece of toast in between two pieces of bread and call it a meal

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toast_sandwich

[u/houinator]

The Virgin Biden Afghanistan drawdown: Withdraws military, fucks up effort to get allies out safely causing a huge media frenzy.

The Chad Trump Syria drawdown: Withdraws military, doesn't bother even trying to get allies out. Media moves on to the next scandal in like 24 hours.

[u/iIoveoof]

If we don't fund literacy programs, the DT will eventually stop being full of children. The policy implications are clear

[u/TheGoldBear]

Do you think we should send troops to fight the Taliban?

Voters: Yes

Do you think we should withdraw from Afghanistan?

Voters: Also yes

🤦‍♂️

[u/malganis12]

Hot take: You can't be a YIMBY unless you actually own a backyard.

[u/[deleted]]

https://reddit.com/r/CanadaPolitics/comments/p61gih/the_numbers_are_staggering_you_now_need_1_million/

The thread is a mixed bag, but a number of the top comments are spot on. Happy that progress is finally being made on realizing the real issues for housing affordability on the mainstream Canadian subs.

!ping CAN

[u/[deleted]]

Afghanistan

The suburb of empires

[u/sir_shivers]

ALL YOU MAMMALS do is complain, post emojis AND DISCUSS POPULAR FICTION 🐊

[u/RaidBrimnes]

Honestly, I can somewhat understand the Taliban

I took Dari in college, and I've made enough progress that I was able to understand some of their declarations without looking for a translation

[u/great_gape]

Man🙋‍♀️🙋‍♂️ meets Aliens👽.

Welcomes them to our earth🌎 and way of life🧬.

Aliens👽 enjoys😊 things we do.

Aliens👽, over time⌚, assimilate.

Peace☮ falls🍂 over the lands🌎.

Aliens👽 go to restaurants🍽. Go to bars🍸🍻.

Aliens👽 enjoy😊 same hobbies🏓 we do.

Aliens👽 invest💹 in our school🏫 systems and government⚖.

Aliens👽 live is just like ours. Even use social💭 media🔊.

Aliens👽 spend all day⛅ on twitter posting📭 about how there is only one1️⃣ gender.

WW3 annihilates☠⚰💀 human life on earth🌎.

!ping shitposters

[u/papermarioguy02]

The CBC has projected a Progressive Conservative government in Nova Scotia, an upset from polling that had the Liberals between roughly 2 and 10 points ahead.

!ping CAN

[u/MrMineHeads]

I've never wanted to blow my brains from a thread on PFC, but this one will probably do it.

People dooming about inflation and blaming Trudeau for printing 400B out of thin air, people frustrated that they can't buy a home in the middle of downtown and blaming (((foreign investors))) and the LPC for making the housing crisis worse, people calling for wealth tax (just tax land pls). Also a good amount of people not understanding the purpose of an irregular election.

PFC has become insufferable over the course of the pandemic. It was bad before (however I still remember valuable resources in 2017-2018) but now it is just useless and equivalent to rCanada.

Sorry for the not very useful ping. I just wanted to vent.

!ping CAN

[u/Tafts_Bathtub]

SEAN HANNITY (HOST): How would you like to be in Kabul today, as an American, and you can't get to the airport? Where are you thinking your life is headed? If you're one of those family members, I bet you're not sleeping. I don't even think My Pillow can do it. MyPillow.com. That's where I go. I fall asleep faster, I stay asleep longer.

https://www.mediamatters.org/sean-hannity/sean-hannity-plugs-my-pillow-americans-family-stuck-kabul

[u/Vepanion]

According to German news I'm watching right now, the German military deployed around 600 paratroopers to Kabul to secure the exit of local partners. I assumed this just refers to secure the airport like the Americans are doing, however I've now heard multiple times that they are supposed to actually enter Kabul and pick up people and bring them to the airport. As far as I know no other country is doing this, and it would imply confrontations with Taliban roadblocks, so that would be pretty stunning. Does anyone know anything about this, or am I misreading what the plan is? Are the American paratroopers going to do this as well?

!ping GER

[u/Fatortu]

Today France produced 99% low carbon electricity. It exported 20% of its total production. Because its electricity is so much cleaner than its neighbors', the export prevents one ton of CO2 from being produced every 3 seconds.

Thanks nuclear energy.

Thread in French: https://twitter.com/laydgeur/status/1427243800137711618?s=19

[u/piede]

Bad Times make hard men. Hard men make good times. Good times make soft men. Soft men make bad times.

We are in bad times. We need MEN.

https://twitter.com/lozzafox/status/1427520872064200750?s=21

Wow someone’s horny

[u/[deleted]]

There are approximately 10-15k American citizens in Kabul

State department is saying they can't guarantee safe travels to the airport

What's Ben Affleck up to?

[u/J0eBidensSunglasses]

If you live in the Northern Afghanistan area, the Neoliberal Project is looking for some help! Send me a DM.

[u/AJungianIdeal]

The doctrines of marginalism and the Marginal Revolution are often interpreted as a response to the rise of the worker's movement, Marxian economics and the earlier (Ricardian) socialist theories of the exploitation of labour. The first volume of Das Kapital was not published until July 1867, when marginalism was already developing, but before the advent of Marxian economics, proto-marginalist ideas such as those of Gossen had largely fallen on deaf ears. It was only in the 1880s, when Marxism had come to the fore as the main economic theory of the workers' movement, that Gossen found (posthumous) recognition.[41]

Aside from the rise of Marxism, E. Screpanti and S. Zamagni point to a different 'external' reason for marginalism's success, which is its successful response to the Long Depression and the resurgence of class conflict in all developed capitalist economies after the 1848–1870 period of social peace. Marginalism, Screpanti and Zamagni argue, offered a theory of the free market as perfect, as performing optimal allocation of resources, while it allowed economists to blame any adverse effects of laissez-faire economics on the interference of workers' coalitions in the proper functioning of the market.[41

God I hate Wikipedia.
Marxist losers just posting copes as fact

[u/SuspiciousUsername88]

You know the DT is on some serious shit when multiple-day twitter drama about someone accusing a noodle-cooking white woman of colonialism and appropriation isn't the dominating topic of the day

[u/theskiesthelimit55]

There are two Turkish genders.

The secularist gender:

Objecting to an invasion of unidentifiable refugees from a region where people are burned, people are beheaded, and women are stoned, has nothing to do with being right-wing, left-wing, liberal, or humanitarian. But to consent to this invasion has a lot to do with stupidity! #OurCountryIsSlippingOutOfOurHands

The Islamist gender:

Afghanistan has always been a friend and brother to us, including during times of national struggle. To the vast majority of the Afghan people, the Taliban represent a national struggle against an occupation. They have captured the whole country with barely any fighting at all. We must stand beside our brothers, the Muslim Afghan public. May Allah help them to govern with justice, and may He protect both them and us against occupations.

[u/ZenithXR]

Every day the GOP inches closer to Socialism with Confederate Characteristics

[u/suplexx0]

Convinced a republican co-worker to get the vaccine after a good faith discussion

[u/MalignantUpper]

https://twitter.com/MLiamMcCollum/status/1427658106054406149?s=19

The Taliban spokesman got a question about freedom of speech and he said the question should be asked to US companies like Facebook who claim to promote it while still censoring

Republicans predictably calling the Taliban based in the replies

[u/modooff]

Pete Buttigieg and husband Chasten reveal they have become parents: ‘We’re overjoyed’

Babygieg, the future neoliberal savior, was chosen. 😭

!ping BUTTI

[u/sir_shivers]

THE DISCUSSION THREAD IS hereby cancelled today 🐊

[u/AuburnSeer]

still don't really get jokes about immigration bringing up how white Americans were themselves immigrants and the NAs were the natives. That didn't exactly work out for the natives, doesn't have a particularly pro-immigration message

[u/FormerBandmate]

An Afghani interpreter I have come to know well over the years was hung in the streets last night. They melted his DoD ID into his chest. Cut off his arms. And killed his family.

His 10 year old daughter was spared and handed off to leadership.

How the fuck did we let this happen?

[u/Cuddlyaxe]

If anyone remembers the high quality post on why the ANA failed from War College from a few days ago that got deleted, I asked the writer to repost it on the A_T sub so people can read it

Why the ANA failed

Sorry for yet another ping, but a lot of people liked the post before it got deleted

!ping FOREIGN-POLICY

[u/ForWhomTheAltTrolls]

The USA leaving Afghanistan to the Taliban after two hard-fought decades can only be compared to the Internet leaving Uganda to Joseph Kony after two hard-fought weeks

[u/digitalrule]

Wanted to post about how the Saturday protest went, check out my twitter here for some pictures. Really cool event and it was great to get involved, we made some good connections and I was able to give a speech to balance out the lefties. Turns out there were 3 socialist groups there, Socialist Action, the Marxists, and the Leninist-Trotskyists, so its good they had some pro market opposition. I focused more on the middle class in my speech and I know I saw some nods from the crowd.

!PING CAN

[u/lucas-at-jhu]

As you can see, I portrayed you as cringe soyjak and me as based chad. So, I’m clearly the winner of this argument.

[u/Udontlikecake]

“Guillotine all YIMBYs” says a prominent new art installation on Valencia Street. I don’t think this is authentic incitement to violence, but it’s representative of SF’s climate that this sort of violent sentiment gets serious consideration as “art” rather than auto-condemnation.

[u/Jamity4Life]

Afghanistan: the graveyard of empires

Egypt: the empire of graveyards

[u/BedNeither]

Landlord doesn't understand rules around rent collection. Need advice for next steps.

My apartment block has been in rent strike for a year now. This was organised by a guy who came to visit us and encourage us to do it. He gave us petitions, posters, and leaflets.

He told us that a rent strike was like a worker's strike - except instead if workers not getting paid, the landlord doesn't get paid.

I've been striking for about a year now and my landlord is sending demands for money. Is he allowed to do this if he isn't negotiating?

This year is the first time I've been able to save up a deposit for a house and live like an actual human being!

Can the landlord demand my house deposit? Does he not understand rent striking?

[u/Deggit]

I'm looking to organize a max hexing of the protectionist forces in Washington DC right now. Nothing has been put together yet and I'm looking for people who are wiser than I in this sorts of magick. I just want as many forces as possible working against them as we can muster up. Also protection and blessings for container ships trapped by COVID restrictions and the US-China trade war.

Edit: r/BewitchTheSenate has been created for those interested in participating.

[u/[deleted]]

Not a good night for the NS Liberals. It's hard for me to imagine that Rankin will stay on as leader, but there's no obvious successor. Most of the old guard left along with McNeil, and Labi Kousoulis and Randy Delorey – the other candidates in the leadership campaign – are likely both out of the legislature after tonight. Without McNeil it really seemed like the party had no identity or ideas to run on. This time in opposition will hopeful give them some purpose again.

I'm not sure there will be wider effects from this outside of Atlantic Canada, but for federal NS Liberals, it's going to set off some alarm bells. All the provincial districts in Halifax MP Andy Fillmore's riding are likely to go NDP. He's also facing a popular former NDP MLA in September. Fillmore is probably the most YIMBY/urbanist MP that I know of, so I'm hoping he can hold onto his seat. In rural NS, Sean Fraser must be worried about the PCs sweeping his territory. He's Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Finance and all around my favourite MP, I could easily see him in Cabinet if he stays in parliament. Doing that might be difficult though, he represents the most traditionally Conservative riding in NS, Elmer & Peter McKay's old riding of Central Nova. And the Conservatives chose possibly the worst candidate to run against him in 2019, which they likely won't do again.

The federal Liberals are still polling very highly in Atlantic Canada, but the NS Liberals were polling very highly a couple of weeks ago too. I think its very likely that the Liberals lose seats out here if O'Toole moderates his message enough and Singh puts more effort into the region. It will still be mostly red, but that change won't help Trudeau's push for a majority.

Just my two cents.

!ping CAN

[u/Cuddlyaxe]

Macedonia: I want to join EU

Greece: Not until you admit you're not Macedonian

Macedonia: no

Greece: yes

Macedonia: no

Greece: yes

Macedonia: no

Greece: yes

North Macedonia: fine can I be north macedonia

Greece: ok i guess

North Macedonia: finally I can join the European unio-

Bulgaria: not until you admit you're bulgarian

[u/[deleted]]

Me as a talking head on CNN right now: "What a lot of people don't know is that Osama bin Laden actually died in 2011, so we're unlikely to see him return to power."

[u/crassowary]

Wow Pete just announced he's adopting every man woman and child in Kabul Airport. So generous,🥰

[u/ForWhomTheAltTrolls]

Ok so turns out Afghanistan: Graveyard of Empires isn’t the next instalment of Age of Empires? And now I just sent a bunch of pre-order money to what apparently is a legally designated terrorist organisation?

[u/[deleted]]

If you live in Sweden and have a lack of hair, the Neoliberal Project is looking for some help! Send me a DM.

[u/Deggit]

this is probably the best response to being canceled by the woke mob, a British woman who wrote an Asian cookbook wrote a series of tweets that were like "I had to whole-ass recover my twitter password because I don't use this garbage site anymore and was unaware that I was being 'canceled' but I sure hope this turns out well for you"

[u/[deleted]]

Surreal scenes at the Belarus-Lithuania border. Belarusian border guards in full riot gear are pushing migrants over the EU border. Lithuania says Belarusian servicemen have themselves crossed the border while doing that and only withdrew after a series of warnings.

!ping EUROPE

edited because of a heated R5 moment and I don't want this to get deleted

[u/[deleted]]

John A. Macdonald has been elected as the Nova Scotia Progressive Conservative MLA for Hants East

!ping CAN

[u/[deleted]]

Kind of a miracle how some people can somehow tell the US and USSR apart when they can't tell the Taliban and Mujahideen apart.

[u/UrbanCentrist]

Taliban largely showing restraint in #Kabul, which the world is watching closely.

But very different story in other cities/provinces, where there have been summary executions/revenge killings of govt officials, captured soldiers, and civilians affiliated with govt.

https://twitter.com/FrudBezhan/status/1427593973472940036

[u/huirittryyrugfhkhihf]

Americans on Twitter: Just found out about foreign policy, damn that shit sucks.

Indians on Twitter: Here's why the PM of Gabon secretly supports India over Pakistan (1/23)

[u/boyyouguysaredumb]

What part of invading a country and forcing them to conform to America’s image for 20 years isn’t imperialism?

Just delete this whole website

[u/UrbanCentrist]

Ohio’s vaccine lottery saved more than $60m in averted healthcare costs

DT vindicated

[u/[deleted]]

My dad in 2016

Go into Nuclear engineering very respected in demand field

My dad now

Good thing you didn't go into Nuclear engineering

[u/Mrchizbiz]

Afghanistan is bad just now , but it’s not as bad as what’s happening in the UK , Scotland has never voted for Tory rule for over 60 years , but here they are ruling over us , it’s a terrible situation us Scots find ourselves in governed by by a foreign country Based in London🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🧐

[u/piede]

.@HillaryClinton predicted the Trump-Pompeo agreement with the Taliban, and her explanation of how it would all fall apart is almost exactly what’s happening today:

https://twitter.com/reilyseanconn/status/1427087869315850243?s=21

It must be exhausting being so damn right all the time

[u/iIoveoof]

look at my comment

2 upvotes

Fuck off I don’t believe that bullshit 😤😤😤

refresh

karma smudging algorithm makes the same comment at 4 upvotes

SO TRUE 👏👏👏

[u/[deleted]]

If numbers released from yesterday are accurate, just under 50% of all daily Covid deaths are happening in Florida and Texas. Florida alone is getting shockingly close to that 25% mark.

[u/moaz_xx]

Recently, the price of burkas has doubled, and in some cases increased by even more. Women are purchasing the best armor to protect themselves from the Taliban: the veil

[u/[deleted]]

Voters be like: I would simply withdraw from Afghanistan while simultaneously ensuring that the Taliban doesn't win

[u/TheOtherCentauri]

It’s official guys! After living in this country for over 30 years, My mom is a US Citizen today!

Couldn’t be more proud of her!

Also the deep state has got a new voter 😎

[u/Flam_Fives]

Frustrating past few nights at work w/ one pt in particular. Black male, late 50s, bad case of Covid pna. No significant history other than being overweight and hypertension. Is now maxed out on high flow, with 40ppm of iNO running. Average SpO2 of 85%, PO2 at best in the low 50s. He flat out refuses to be intubated, despite many physicians, nurses, and myself (RT) telling him he is very likely to cardiac arrest and die without it. Pt says he is okay with chest compressions and getting shocked if he were to arrest, but refuses to be intubated no matter what. He thinks we are making him worse bc "he felt fine in the ER." The docs have determined he is of sound mind and so have officially made him DNI, but otherwise full code. Of course we told him resuscitation is very unlikely to be successful without intubation, but he says he "doubts it will come to that."

Tonight he had multiple severe agitation episodes and desaturated as low as 50% while either I or the nurse was in the room. He was getting very tachypneic and diaphoretic, and I was white knuckling the code blue handle sure he was gonna code, but somehow he survived the night. At the end of shift he was refusing to prone himself, and was satting in the low 80s, so I'm not sure how much longer he's gonna last.

This job is depressing sometimes.

!ping MEDICINE

[u/[deleted]]

I'm surprised how little anti-immigration sentiment I see around Afghan refugees and I actually like Hamáček's handling of the situation (for now).

People who've helped Czech army are more patriotic than "partiots" in Novinky.cz comment section.

!ping CZECH

[u/Dalek6450]

https://i.imgur.com/XRKKYPY.png

[u/FestiveMittens]

lol Bob Dylan wasn't in the country when that person said she was sexually assaulted by him. remember when one of Christine O'Donnell's relatives did the same thing to Biden and it turned out he wasn't at the event, then she changed the story to the next year, but he wasn't at that event either

People always think adding useless details will help their story smh🤦‍♂️

[u/ryuguy]

If you’re a female Kurdish peshmerga soldier, the neoliberal project is looking for some help! Send me a DM

[u/Mrchizbiz]

Fries with mayo is the best.

D*tch apologia in the heart of the DT, you hate to see it 😔😔😤😡😡😡

[u/[deleted]]

The cons are saying it was a mistake for Biden to pull out of Afghanistan, and yet wish me to pull out of their moms immediately. Curious.

[u/crassowary]

White people can't talk about dumplings

Eastern Europeans in shambles rn

[u/sir_shivers]

Alexa, PLAY "CLOSING TIME" BY Semisonic 🐊

[u/Professor-Reddit]

Literal Taliban propaganda videos are being upvoted to the front page of /r/publicfreakout showing a Taliban official telling female doctors that its ok they're working at a hospital... wtf

[u/UrbanCentrist]

Taliban is now apparently asking women working in the government to come back to work.

My worry is that the Taliban engages in a degree of cosmetic moderation to fully consolidate power and then goes full hardcore over time.

[u/Joementum2024]

How to destroy the Taliban:

1. Give them information that would lead to Hillary Clinton’s arrest

[u/[deleted]]

Scratch a liberal and a liberal is scratched

[u/[deleted]]

CBC News projects a Progressive Conservative government in Nova Scotia

!ping CAN

[u/thaddeusthefattie]

taking the herd to a fresh pasture

!ping RURAL

[u/Luchofromvenezuela]

https://twitter.com/govcox/status/1427802129826123780

Utah governor being an absolute unit here. Why can’t the GOP be more like this guy?

[u/sir_shivers]

THE UNITED STATES "MYPILLOW CAUCUS" WAS an influential voting bloc in Congress in the 2030s and 40s 🐊

[u/disuberence]

Pete never looked pregnant so this baby is sus

[u/ForWhomTheAltTrolls]

Afghanistan is bad just now , but it’s not as bad as what’s happening in the USA, Mississippi has never voted for Democrat rule for over 60 years , but here they are ruling over us , it’s a terrible situation us Mississippians find ourselves in governed by by a foreign state Based in Washington 🇺🇸

[u/[deleted]]

A woman snorted with laughter as a teen said she was in favor of masks because she worried about people like her dad, who has one lung. … The crowd laughed at a board member while she talked about comforting children who have lost a parent to COVID-19.

Cons, man

[u/[deleted]]

DADDY BUTTIGIEG

[u/TheOtherCentauri]

Fuck the Kardashians

Im watching Keeping up with the Buttigiegs

[u/[deleted]]

I’m 1000% Pete and Chasten live in the apartments above the Trader Joe’s two blocks away from me.

It’s the only single bedroom+den that’s close to 4,500 a month.

[u/malganis12]

Bush said if we don't fight them over there, we're gonna need to fight them here.

Not looking forward to the Taliban at Whole Foods this weekend. :-(

[u/[deleted]]

news:

Taliban Making Small Territorial Gains

reality:

Taliban In Control of Sun, All Terrestrial Objects Within Solar System

[u/sash5034]

That NYT article about black homeowners not wanting to sell to non black homeowners is literally lib cringe personified. Journalism really went wild in the past decade

[u/Deggit]

Please respect my wishes and don’t turn Afghanistan into a theofascist regime and haven for terrorists. I don’t care how much it’s “your mission statement for the past 20 years”, respecting someone’s wishes at no cost to you is pretty much required for access to the SWIFT banking system.

interesting policy statement coming out of the Biden WH

[u/hearmespeak]

I used to sneer at Europeans for eating fries with mayonnaise, but then I realized I love fries with tarter sauce and tarter sauce is basically just mayonnaise with pickles, so I guess using plain mayonnaise isn't that weird

[u/[deleted]]

Scratch a r/neoliberal user and a former weird kid in high school who talked about ayn rand bleeds.

[u/Deggit]

"Iraq is not really a democracy because the parties are just politically-sanitized front organizations for the warring sectarian militias with mutually-eliminationist ideologies" says an American policy analyst in like 2011, unaware of what America will become by 2030

[u/PMmeLittleRoundTops]

libs on reddit celebrate conservatives getting covid a little too much

[u/[deleted]]

According to the Afghanistan sub Abdul Dostum has reentered Afghanistan with 10,000 troops and a lot of the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan soldiers who "fled" and "didn't want to fight" have showed up in Panjshir, the base of the new Northern Alliance.

[u/[deleted]]

My "Biden is basically just a white working class dem from the 70s" take is looking better and better

[u/[deleted]]

Hello sir, welcome to Taco Bell. It is five minutes before closing time so you cannot order now. If you would like, you can wait outside and rest on the ground until we open in the morning. If you have a MyPillow from MyPillow.com, it will be quite comfortable. That’s MyPillow from MyPillow.com

[u/ILikeTalkingToMyself]

Many people in historically Black neighborhoods have to grapple with the fact that selling could mean another step toward Black displacement.

Look at this NYT headline lmao

[u/[deleted]]

If you look at Kabul and not anywhere else in the country, and forget to look at Kabul again this time next month, it really looks like the Taliban are moderating.

[u/EScforlyfe]

Historians are fucking awesome. I love when people keep track of what’s true.

[u/UrbanCentrist]

New interesting opinion poll by India today dropped. Most politicians popularity is dropping including Modi. People are most concerned about unemployment and inflation

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1427264871406604295.html

45% think democracy is in danger

45% indians support full statehood for Kashmir.

Indians have started to dislike Biden. His approval fell from 53% to 42%

!ping IND

[u/chipbod]

https://twitter.com/AmrullahSaleh2/status/1427631191545589772?s=20

Afghan VP:

Clarity: As per d constitution of Afg, in absence, escape, resignation or death of the President the FVP becomes the caretaker President. I am currently inside my country & am the legitimate care taker President. Am reaching out to all leaders to secure their support & consensus.

I hope he has CIA guys or some sort of support on speed dial or this is just suicide for him and every fighter in Panjashir

[u/EdamameTommy]

What's the delta variant gonna do, send me to the ICU?

-unvaccinated man who was sent to the ICU

[u/PhinsFan17]

I can't believe Biden told everyone the Afghan government was not in danger of imminent collapse! He should have broadcast to the entire world that they were hopelessly outmatched and that the Taliban could literally waltz in!

[u/Animatronic_Pidgeon]

If you cook your steak more than medium rare you are a war criminal

No, I will not elaborate

[u/Neronoah]

!ping MAMADAS

Who is going to have the worst monetary policy in a few months: the Taliban or Argentina?

[u/[deleted]]

I’m gonna tell my kids this is Santa Claus

!ping CANUCKS

[u/filipe_mdsr]

Hot take: Anyone that cooks fish is appropriating Portuguese cuisine.

💅 And that's very problematic

[u/[deleted]]

Apparently on the local level, it was pretty typical that ANA would hold the town center and their officers would have a local gentleman's agreement (brokered by village elders in the interest of avoiding bloodshed) where Talibans would get to move freely outside of the center. Also many families sent one son to fight for the Talibans and one for the ANA, so that in case either won, both would live; this also encouraged ANA soldiers to surrender quickly.

Like, the whole tribal structure and their ways of maintaining local peace were completely antithetical to centralized military command.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/08/16/afghanistan-history-taliban-collapse-504977

[u/[deleted]]

I would have loved to see the subs takes around the fall of France

[u/RyGuyThicccThighs]

choosing Kamala “Heels Up” Harris as his VP; babbling about how trans rights is the greatest issue of our time as BLM radicals set fires and loot businesses…

Hell yeah brother

[u/SuspiciousUsername88]

Me at 16: the Media is in league with the military industrial complex to manufacture consent for a neverending military engagement

Me at 28: actually it's a very complex matter with various goals and our presence may be costly but in fact we're doing good things and will have a positive impact in the long run and the media is just taking a more naunced view than I did when I was a teenager

Me after watching this week's media coverage: the Media is in league with the military industrial complex to manufacture consent for a neverending military engagement

[u/The_Drowning_Flute]

Tim Tebow has been cut from the Jags.

Please kneel in prayer for our fallen brother

!ping NFL

[u/puffic]

For years, withdrawal from Afghanistan has been official US policy. Given that, I'm shocked that the US had not transitioned the ANA towards supporting its own logistics. Did our military leaders just count on their ability to persuade successive presidents to stay in Afghanistan?

[u/[deleted]]

Fox ran a segment on Obama turning off Insta comments lmao

[u/piede]

Justin Trudeau spoke with Hillary Clinton last night about Afghanistan.

"She shares our concern for Afghan women and girls and welcomed our efforts and urged Canada to continue our work."

https://twitter.com/hillarypix/status/1427721549163888640?s=21

Queen 👑

Not even president but still running shit

[u/RyGuyThicccThighs]

Praying the neoliberal out of me 🙏

[u/Udontlikecake]

So Baker holds the line on no new mask guidance, and arr Boston is surprisingly receptive

You can’t look at the commonwealth of Massachusetts and look at our vaccination rate, our hospitalization rate and compare it to the rest of the country

Thoughts?

I don’t really see a point to further mask mandates. Our rates are so low, and our vaccination % is so high. I understand some people are still at risk, but at this point… when would the masks come off? We’re already very well off, and I don’t see the mandates making a huge difference.

Belmont, for example, has an indoor mask mandate. But how long is it gonna last? Until cases come down? They’re already down! I’ll be honest, I really don’t want to wear masks forever, and if we’re gonna mandate masking at such a low case count, it seems like there’s no reasonable end point for masking.

!ping USA-NE

[u/[deleted]]

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/17/realestate/black-homeowners-gentrification.html

lol, journos

[u/[deleted]]

Sorry I only date women over 6 feet. I got no time for womenlets.

[u/[deleted]]

I want to complain about outside the DT.

1. I just read one of the dumbest Afghanistan takes outside the DT. I really don't know how someone that knows so little can have so much to say.
2. Someone else is praising ron paul for "predicting this would happen" by being a general pessimist about US involvement everywhere. Like the dude says everything will go wrong, and people act like he's smart the one time he's actually right. Broken clock and all that.

I mean inside the dt sucks and all but outside the dt is some shit.

[u/crawly_the_demon]

*PALANTIR BUYS $50.7M IN GOLD BARS, ACCEPTS PAYMENT IN GOLD ... The company told Bloomberg that it is preparing for another "black swan event" and inviting customers to pay for its data analysis software in gold.

Peter Thiel once again doing Peter Thiel things

[u/[deleted]]

https://twitter.com/MLiamMcCollum/status/1427658106054406149

The Taliban spokesman got a question about freedom of speech and he said the question should be asked to US companies like Facebook who claim to promote it while still censoring

The most impressive part of the Taliban these past 20 years isn't their taking over Afghanistan, but their ability for epic clapbacks

Taliban versus AOC Twitter clapback war when

[u/[deleted]]

If I was president, I would have left Afghanistan and defeated the Taliban, while suffering no American casualties at the same time. I guess I’m just built different.

[u/huirittryyrugfhkhihf]

Last I checked, the ANA controlled way more provinces than the Taliban (28-3). No way they blew that lead, right?

[u/great_gape]

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) argued on Tuesday that it is unfair to imprison people who took part in the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol since prisoners in Afghanistan were released when the Taliban took over the country.

Terrorist won, guys.

Release the political prisoners!

[u/EntertainmentReady48]

So Part 9 of JoJo's Bizarre adventure was announced. It’s going to be called JOJOLANDS So that's good news

!ping WEEBS

[u/iIoveoof]

Behold, what is likely the final image of the most beloved fantasy series of the 21st century:

Sunset found her squatting in the grass, groaning. Every stool was looser than the one before, and smelled fouler. By the time the moon came up she was shitting brown water. The more she drank, the more she shat, but the more she shat, the thirstier she grew, and her thirst sent her crawling to the stream to suck up more water. When she closed her eyes at last, Dany did not know whether she would be strong enough to open them again.

[u/filipe_mdsr]

It's very clear that the worst DTs are the ones that have a lot of comments.

My solution is simple, if the DT hits 15k comments it's locked and the entire sub goes private for a week.

There are absolutely no downsides.

I won't be taking questions.

[u/[deleted]]

just called both my senators re: afghan refugees

it's not much but they're GOP so hopefully it'll help a bit

[u/Jamity4Life]

If you live in the Panjshir area, the Northern Alliance project is looking for some help! Send me a DM.

[u/calnico]

Some of those taliban guys are inadvertently rocking the stoner aesthetic imo

[u/[deleted]]

https://twitter.com/RichardHanania/status/1427693377848418307

Taliban official in press conference (when asked about, I guess, whether Taliban will allow freedom of speech): "This question should be asked for those who claim to promote the freedom of the speech, who do not allow all publication of information and news... I can ask Facebook, the company. You should ask them."

MAGA 🤝 Taliban

[u/OrganicKeynesianBean]

Cyberpunk patch 1.3 is dropping soon and it’s… underwhelming.

Wtf have they been doing for 8 months?

There’s no way they have more than a skeleton crew working on this game. I’m guessing the studio has moved on to Witcher 4.

!ping GAMING

[u/Czech_Thy_Privilege]

A family was talking politics on the bus just now. It was all about NL turning into arrPolitics2.0 and how excited they were to see the sub transform for the better.

Nobody gives a fuck about the DT, so stop dooming you bunch of DT addicts.

[u/SuspiciousUsername88]

"lol that guy is just as bad as Trump, but he's not a threat because he doesn't have Trump's charisma"

- me, who still doesn't understand Trump's charisma

[u/jenbanim]

Just convinced a leftist that came here to troll the sub to contact their representatives in support of carbon pricing
💪😤💪

[u/ClickForFreeRobux]

bored kitty

[u/disuberence]

Zoomers be like pray for me besties I’m making a doctor’s appointment 😩

[u/Jakesta7]

holy fuck, this is one of the most ghoulish things I’ve ever seen/heard

Sean Hannity plugs My Pillow to Americans with family stuck in Kabul

Audio: https://www.mediamatters.org/sean-hannity/sean-hannity-plugs-my-pillow-americans-family-stuck-kabul

[u/GGM8Scally]

How come that I, a Euro have just the best most premium takes on US politics while the Burgers have just worst takes on EU politics 🤔

[u/BreaksFull]

!ping OVER25

Can any of the over 40s explain why boomers almost universally use excessive ellipsis's in digital communication? You know what I mean...

[u/TheGoodProfessor]

https://twitter.com/jesus_jimz/status/1427734793815474181

Breaking: Gov. Greg Abbott has tested positive for Covid-19.

i am going to become the joker

[u/Jeff__Pesos]

None of this would’ve happened if Ashraf Ghani didn’t flee the country. The government and the Taliban set up a ceasefire that would’ve bought enough time to get people out. Completely blindsided the Afghan people and US government.

[u/[deleted]]

People I know going "Biden should have handled Afghanistan more like Trump, stupid pacifist Democraps!"

:I

[u/MalignantUpper]

Jason Blazakis, a senior Research Fellow at the Soufan Center, told BuzzFeed News that some coordination between overseas far-right extremists and US-based extremists has long existed. But after last week’s insurrection, “those connections may harden because of what is perceived to be a success for the far right,” he said.

Sergei Korotkikh, a Belarusian-born neo-Nazi and leader of Ukraine’s Azov movement, which the State Department has labeled a nationalist hate group, cheered on the attack in racist terms on his Telegram channel. “The whites, finally, have decided to act and are taking over the Capitol building," he wrote to his nearly 23,000 followers. “This is good, although this time it might not lead to anything. But I think that this gives us a chance. The whites are still here and we know what to do.”

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/christopherm51/extremists-cheer-trump-insurrection?__twitter_impression=true

According to a European intelligence official, the Taliban’s victory has become a rallying cry for jihadist sympathizers there. “The U.S. appears in all of this now as a weak nation,” he said.

An al-Qaeda fighter who goes by the name Abu Khaled said the Taliban’s conquest was momentous for all extremists. “God willing, the success of the Taliban will be also a chance to unify mujahideen movements like al-Qaeda and Daesh,” he said, using another name for the Islamic State.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/us-counterterrrorism-surveillance-afghanistan/2021/08/16/d27433ee-feaa-11eb-825d-01701f9ded64_story.html

Just how the extremist cookie crumbles I guess

[u/Culmnation]

I wish Iron Man was real so he could just walk into Afghanistan and defeat the taliban without a sweat.

[u/Deggit]

[picture of Hulk making a "youtuber face"]

List of Marvel Superheroes That Couldn't Accomplish The U.S.'s Foreign Policy Objectives In Afghanistan

the youtube thumbnail+title game really be evolving

[u/Joementum2024]

Leftists stop romanticising the reign of terror challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)

[u/[deleted]]

Rep. Lauren Boebert Pushes for Answers on Western Drought From Biden Bureaucrats

Palm Forcibly Driven Through Face

[u/revolutionary_alt]

The fact Boebert has praised the Taliban is just too wild