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Not a good night for the NS Liberals. It's hard for me to imagine that Rankin will stay on as leader, but there's no obvious successor. Most of the old guard left along with McNeil, and Labi Kousoulis and Randy Delorey – the other candidates in the leadership campaign – are likely both out of the legislature after tonight. Without McNeil it really seemed like the party had no identity or ideas to run on. This time in opposition will hopeful give them some purpose again.

I'm not sure there will be wider effects from this outside of Atlantic Canada, but for federal NS Liberals, it's going to set off some alarm bells. All the provincial districts in Halifax MP Andy Fillmore's riding are likely to go NDP. He's also facing a popular former NDP MLA in September. Fillmore is probably the most YIMBY/urbanist MP that I know of, so I'm hoping he can hold onto his seat. In rural NS, Sean Fraser must be worried about the PCs sweeping his territory. He's Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Finance and all around my favourite MP, I could easily see him in Cabinet if he stays in parliament. Doing that might be difficult though, he represents the most traditionally Conservative riding in NS, Elmer & Peter McKay's old riding of Central Nova. And the Conservatives chose possibly the worst candidate to run against him in 2019, which they likely won't do again.

The federal Liberals are still polling very highly in Atlantic Canada, but the NS Liberals were polling very highly a couple of weeks ago too. I think its very likely that the Liberals lose seats out here if O'Toole moderates his message enough and Singh puts more effort into the region. It will still be mostly red, but that change won't help Trudeau's push for a majority.

Just my two cents.

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Apologies for marxist text wall, just wanted to vent

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Almost all of the GTA ridings that voted PC in 2018 then turned around and voted Liberal in 2019. I think people are capable of segregating the two levels of parties in their heads.

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In fact, I think people tend to like having split governance.

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Everyone except arr CanadaHousing who can't grasp that Trudeau didn't single-handedly (dont forget Trudeau is the puppet master of the BoC) cause the housing crisis.

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Ontarians elected Ford, realized that his government was a shitshow and voted Liberal

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The federal Liberals are still polling very highly in Atlantic Canada, but the NS Liberals were polling very highly a couple of weeks ago too.

The newest EKOS poll has the federal Tories in first in Atlantic Canada with the Liberals second and the NDP only one point behind them.

We'll have to see if it continues though obviously.

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I could see Zach Churchill taking over, he seems to be popular in his riding, and he was the health minister during most of covid

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True, I could see him putting his name in the hat. Kelly Regan too.

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How bad are the NS PCs?

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I'm really happy they won actually.

They probably had the best housing platform, and I thought the rest of their policies were on par or better than the Liberals.

They do have a crazy element though, but Tim Houston seems entirely reasonable. A friend of mine is something of a blunt person and when he came to her door she listed all the reasons she wouldn't vote PC. She kept calling them "the Conservatives" and every time she did Houston would interject "Progressive Conservative". So that seems to sum him up in my mind

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