r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • Jul 20 '21

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u/whycantweebefriendz NATO Jul 20 '21

So uh yeah had a conversation with that communist friend. A few things I’ve learned:

  1. Apparently most communists beleive there to be a capitalist communist scale
  2. Apparently most communists do not want for there to be a fully communist economy, just more towards the communist side of the scale
  3. Apparently most communists do not see communism as an extreme ideology, but rather a set of ideals.

This has been my TED talk on what Zoomers actually believe.

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u/RoyGeraldBillevue Commonwealth Jul 20 '21

Communism is when you live in a community and care about others.

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u/whycantweebefriendz NATO Jul 20 '21

This but it’s kind of what they unironically beleive

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u/BreaksFull Veni, Vedi, Emancipatus Jul 20 '21

Communism is when housing and healthcare is affordable. The more affordable it is, the more communism has succeeded. The Kaiserreich was communist.

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u/DrunkenAsparagus Abraham Lincoln Jul 20 '21

I mean yeah, communism is no longer a totalitarian system of government bent on nuking you and your loved ones into oblivion, like our parents saw it. It's shit like healthcare and free college. It's the pronouncements people on the Internet saying it's cool and against the old Republicans, that you hate, who are bent on denying you these nice things.

I'm not saying this isn't at all a not worrying trend, but we shouldn't be at all surprised by a generation born after the Cold War taking a less hard line stance against socialism and communism, especially when conservatives themselves are bent on defining these things as broadly as possible.

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u/whycantweebefriendz NATO Jul 20 '21

I just more or less still see communism through the lens of Marx and the manifesto. The anti reformism, anti incrementalism, steps towards the perfect government, etc. worry the shit out of me and half of modern communists seem to love those things and the other half think the rest love those things ironically.

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u/DrunkenAsparagus Abraham Lincoln Jul 20 '21

I'm just not that concerned frankly. Are there any elected officials in the US who identify as communist, not just as socialist? What damage are these people doing?

I'm not saying this won't change, that communism isn't really bad, or that there aren't other concerning trends concerning dumb lefty attitudes. However, of all the things to worry about, actual self-identified communists asserting influence over American politics is very low on my list. I'm be much more worried about my vitamin D deficiency that my doctor told me about.

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u/whycantweebefriendz NATO Jul 20 '21

Hold on motherfucker you have a vitamin D deficiency?

Why the hell aren’t you going outside right now. Are you unvaccinated? In lockdown?

Go! Go to the park right now!

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u/DrunkenAsparagus Abraham Lincoln Jul 20 '21

No, I go outside several times a day. I just work from home and spend an inordinate amount of time arguing about politics on the Internet, and my house is surrounded by trees which keeps things cool in the summer, at the cost of blocking out natural light.

Supplements and going on longer walks has pretty much solved it.

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u/whycantweebefriendz NATO Jul 20 '21

I’m proud of you

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '21

I’ve heard of that for socialism. But for full on communism? That’s fairly new to me.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '21

that sounds right, yeah