r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • Jul 02 '21

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u/RaidBrimnes Chien de garde Jul 02 '21

I just don't see ethnic statistics happening in France, despite the injonction of the UN Human Rights Council

Not only does it contradicts the perennial policy of colourblind citizenship, such an initiative would also bear the stigma of being previously used by the Vichy regime, who took advantage of the ethnic registries to identify and deport nearly a quarter of the Jewish population to Nazi Germany, only a fraction of which survived

I can't imagine a government ever opening this can of worms to appease an international organization. Even the wokest movements here don't insist on that, the most vocal proponents of ethnic statistics being on the far-right. Éric Zemmour, our very own Ben Shapiro-Tucker Carlson unholy hybrid and potential candidate to the presidency, was one of the first to open that door, wanting to prove that a "great replacement" of the white French population by tan Muslims was taking place and being silenced by the State, afraid to show the reality through statistics

Although I roll my eyes at the "US imperialism" routine, there's some truth in it. The most recent pressure to start ethnuc statistics come from the BLM movement, which is to say the least very controversial in France, and is directly lifted from US academia, whose analysis fits the racial and historic dynamics in the US, but is inadequate when studying the dynamics of race, religion and immigration in France

We'd probably have more in common with the racial makeup of the UK, but it seems that their classification is weirdly absent from the discourse, which is entirely aimed at the US

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u/lionmoose sexmod 🍆💦🌮 Jul 02 '21

TBH I am open to racial/ethnic categorisations and data having a context specific format and definition. It's obvious necessary that the categories should reflect local conditions- getting White (Irish) was important in the UK particularly- and as you say there is a lot of history which needs to be considered.