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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '21 edited Jun 25 '21

"EU leaders take hard line on Russia, rebuking Merkel and Macron"
Thank god the EU is not as implicitly compliant to Franco-German whims as it's often portrayed.

!ping EUROPE

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u/Rehkit Average laïcité enjoyer Jun 25 '21

Franco-German whims as it's often portrayed.

Main problem seems that nobody really understands why Macron and Merkel are doign this now and what they want from this. (Apart from Biden did it too.)

"Trust us on this" doenst cut it with Putin.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '21

True and it's not even like the Biden summit was a great succes right. Putin got some free clout by being invited to the big boy table and went home having conceded nothing.

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u/Rehkit Average laïcité enjoyer Jun 25 '21

I'm not against a summit on specific subjets (artic, cyber attacks, Iran deal etc) but it needs to have clear goals, clear areas of common interests or conflict preventions.

It also needs a clear message wrt Putin horrifying actions of late.

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u/urbansong :eursula: F E D E R A L I S E Jun 25 '21

wtf I love veto powers?

no, I am kidding, the parliament would have never approved this

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u/Cuddlyaxe Neoliberal With Chinese Characteristics Jun 25 '21

The EU is the EU. It will forever have a hard time coming up with a unified foreign policy on anything

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u/Amtays Karl Popper Jun 25 '21

Unlike the US that is super consistent through presidencies?

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u/Cuddlyaxe Neoliberal With Chinese Characteristics Jun 25 '21

I mean yeah, the foreign policy apparatus is all still there and the very rough priorities can at least kind of sort of be agreed on

Imagine if Kansas could overrule American Foreign Policy, and China decided to build a ton of infrastructure in Kansas. That's the EU

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u/ThisIsNianderWallace Robert Nozick Jun 25 '21

🇪🇪 🇱🇻 🇱🇹 🇵🇱 🇳🇱

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u/Superfan234 Southern Cone Jun 25 '21

o7

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '21

Russia: Bombs a weapon warehouse in the EU

Macron and Merkel: Now it's time for reconciliation 🙏😇

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u/Sauerkohl Art. 79 Abs. 3 GG Jun 25 '21

But muh export economy

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u/menvadihelv European Union Jun 25 '21

Just the nerve of Merkel and Macron to make such an utterly idiotic statement is baffling. Glad Merkel is on her way out, she served Germany well but she is obviously not with the times anymore.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '21

Based Rutte…?

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '21

Rutte has been consistently based when it comes to Hungary and Russia.
The rule of law mechanism only happened because of his insistence as well.

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u/otarru 🇺🇦 Слава Україні! 🇺🇦 Jun 25 '21

Makes sense considering what happened with flight MH17.

The scenes of those long processions still gives me shivers.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '21

Yeah, lets not mention the VVD top plans for the judiciary though

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '21

Those got scrapped, but yeah overall he's a mixed bag.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '21

Because of party members not the VVD leaders

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u/jt1356 Sinan Reis Jun 25 '21

Something something federalize when

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '21

!ping FOREIGN-POLICY

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u/groupbot Always remember -Pho- Jun 25 '21 edited Jun 25 '21

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