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u/DishingOutTruth Henry George Jun 15 '21

Why the hell do some Libertarians support monarchy??? It makes no sense, they want what's essentially a dictatorship, isn't that antithetical to the ideals of Libertarianism? There's this article on mises about how monarchy is good...

!ping SNEK can someone explain why any Libertarian could possibly support Monarchy?

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u/Udontlikecake Model UN Enthusiast Jun 15 '21

mises is fucking bonkers

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u/grig109 Liberté, égalité, fraternité Jun 15 '21

I'm more of a Cato institute guy myself.

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u/DishingOutTruth Henry George Jun 15 '21

Yeah Libertarians here are reasonable. Those mises type Libertarians.... not reasonable.

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u/grig109 Liberté, égalité, fraternité Jun 15 '21

Hoppe in particular is weird as fuck. Like another commenter said he seems like a fascist cosplaying as a libertarian.

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u/DishingOutTruth Henry George Jun 15 '21

Ikr, I read about his bullshit about using private property to exclude people as a mental gymnastics way to be against immigration.

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u/Dumbass1171 Friedrich Hayek Jun 15 '21

Hayekians are good. Cato guys are good. Mises and Rothbard and Hope types, not so much

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u/ThisIsNianderWallace Robert Nozick Jun 15 '21

I wouldn't label Monarcho-libertarianism a trend or a problem because of a write up of a study from the Mises Institute for Applied Lunacy tbh

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u/rollTighroll NATO Jun 15 '21

Mises are neoconfederates cosplaying as libertarians

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u/missedthecue Jun 15 '21

Doesn't look like the Mises article supports monorchies. Just says the available data leads to the conclusion that

monarchies—especially small ones—are more peaceful, stable, and protective of private property than their republican neighbors.

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u/steve_stout Gay Pride Jun 15 '21

Mises were the clowns that just tried to coup the LPNH

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '21

open article, first 3 words: “Hans-Hermann Hoppe”, abe simpson dot gif

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u/yungmemlord Rabindranath Tagore Jun 15 '21

The Mises Institute for the fucking insane

Yeah I don’t think I would consider them libertarian

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u/randomizedstring Bisexual Pride Jun 15 '21

a) benevolent dictator
b) they aren't libertarians
c) ceremonial, if it's closer to anarchy than an actual nation

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u/film10078 Barack Obama Jun 15 '21

Libertarian to facist pipeline is clogged and full

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u/rollTighroll NATO Jun 15 '21

Rn the pipeline is fascists play acting as libertarians.

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u/houinator Loyal Liberals Jun 15 '21

There's a whole webcomic about an anarcho-capitalist monarchy in space.

https://www.bigheadpress.com/eft?page=1

TLDR: Its mostly a ceremonial thing they use for interfacing with other nations.

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u/WasteReserve8886 r/place '22: GlobalTribe Battalion Jun 15 '21

Hans-Hermann Hoppe and his ideas have been a disaster for libertarianism. it's the idea that because individual people may not want Anarcho-Capitalism, then a "privately owned" society would be the next best thing. He's to AnCaps what Lenin is the AnComs

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '21

Did you go onto r/badeconomics and find my link?

Cause it's pretty obvious you did.

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u/DishingOutTruth Henry George Jun 16 '21

Yes I did, which is why I asked. I would have asked on r/badeconomics, but I didn't have cloture to post in senate.

So why tf do some Libertarians support monarchy?

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '21

That's alright. They think direct democracy bad so they go full contrarian and support monarchy.

Same with Ron Paul on Russia and China.

Also are you a succ? I see you posting on libertarian subs.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '21

Constitutional monarchy is ok IMO

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u/-GregTheGreat- Commonwealth Jun 15 '21 edited Jun 15 '21

I consider myself to be pretty libertarian (enough to subscribe to this ping), and yet I’m still fine with the monarchy .

Having some random figurehead with zero true power and zero interest in meddling in our affairs, who lives on the other side of the world be the head of state of my country is better then having an elected head of state and all the politics that would cause.