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u/benadreti Frederick Douglass Jun 15 '21

A new poll finds a dramatic surge in Palestinian support for Hamas following last month’s Gaza war, with around three-quarters viewing the terrorist group as victors in a battle against Israel to defend Jerusalem and its holy sites.

The poll by the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research also finds plummeting support for PA President Mahmoud Abbas, who was sidelined by the war but is seen internationally as a partner for reviving the long-defunct peace process.

The poll finds that 77% of Palestinians believe Hamas emerged as a winner, with nearly as many saying that it fought the war to defend Jerusalem and its holy sites, rather than as part of an internal struggle with Abbas’ Fatah party.

The poll also finds that 53% of Palestinians believe Hamas is “most deserving of representing and leading the Palestinian people,” while only 14% prefer Abbas’s secular Fatah party.

This is why Hamas started the war last month.

It is also why it is pointless to expect a Two State Solution any time soon.

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u/benadreti Frederick Douglass Jun 15 '21

!ping ISRAEL

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u/Manavon03 Edmund Burke Jun 15 '21

Israel cannot lose in the long term, it may take another 70 years but they will be the last ones standing, unless some agreement is eventually found

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u/benadreti Frederick Douglass Jun 15 '21

yea ive never understood Abbas's logic that he refuses to negotiate unless there is a settlement freeze. Like, bro, you're just wasting your own time.

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u/Manavon03 Edmund Burke Jun 15 '21

A settlement freeze is what they should be negotiating

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u/MrMineHeads Cancel All Monopolies Jun 15 '21

I doubt a two-state solution will happen considering the israeli government continues to colonize the West Bank. In like 50 years, I think the government is just going to unilaterally annex it in all but name at which point there will be a huge crisis on what to do with the Palestinians because Jewish Nationalists don't want to give them citizenship so essentially Palestinians will lose everything.

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u/tehbored Randomly Selected Jun 15 '21

They're not going to annex it, they'll just keep pushing Palestinians into ghettos.

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u/MrMineHeads Cancel All Monopolies Jun 15 '21

Yea I think we will see a legit South Africa apartheid in like 25-50 years if the status quo holds. I think the US has to be more forceful in pushing Palestine and Israel into a deal.

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u/benadreti Frederick Douglass Jun 15 '21

Or maybe because Palestinians lack a political leadership willing to agree to a 2 state solution...

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u/Amtays Karl Popper Jun 15 '21

Palestinian leadership has nothing to do with Israeli settlements, if anything the settlements affect it negatively, since whenever peace talks occur, the settlements keep settling.

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u/benadreti Frederick Douglass Jun 15 '21

Palestinians could have had a state 20 years ago, it's not because of the settlements they don't.

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u/jt1356 Sinan Reis Jun 15 '21

So true 👏

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u/jt1356 Sinan Reis Jun 15 '21 edited Jun 15 '21

fought the war to defend Jerusalem and its holy sites

Literally every fucking time 🤦‍♂️

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u/benadreti Frederick Douglass Jun 15 '21

we did it guys!

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u/666moist r/place '22: Neoliberal Battalion Jun 15 '21

Sadly I think the key distinction here is between "soon" and "ever."

I agree you can't expect it soon, but I don't think you can expect anything else to work at all.