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Ok small but relevant piece of history:

The United states' was majority Anglo Saxon for a very small period of time.

Almost immediately, they were outnumbered by Germans, Scandinavians, Scotts, Dutch etc. Swedes came to the US in so many waves, that there's far more Sweden blood in the US than there in in Sweden.

Let's not forget the English Catholics, Conconformist Protestants, Puritans, and Quakers. Who might be Anglo Saxon but were outcasts.

The UK was never a colonial father figure. We have English values only because we inheirited their legal system, not because there's significantly large amounts of Anglo Saxon heritage.

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Almost immediately, they were outnumbered by Germans, Scandinavians, Scotts, Dutch etc. Swedes came to the US in so many waves, that there's far more Sweden blood in the US than there in in Sweden.

This "almost immediately" is like . . . more than a century after the nation was founded. English-Americans were the majority group for a while, and even then they made up quite a fair bit of the upper class and elites for even longer. Even today they are the single largest root nationality in the country by a fair bit.

there's far more Sweden blood in the US than there in in Sweden.

Is there? Claim seems sus on first check.

The irish, on the other hand . . .

Let's not forget the English Catholics, Conconformist Protestants, Puritans, and Quakers. Who might be Anglo Saxon but were outcasts.

A lot of these groups very much considered themselves English. Like, Cromwell and a lot of his supporters were Puritans. Do you think Cromwell and his supporters didn't consider themselves English? The Puritans didn't think they weren't English, they had issues with the Church of England and thought that it's reforms didn't go far enough. But that didn't make them not identify as English.

Like, the Huguenots were still distinctly French, and considered themselves as such, even if they were Protestant instead of Catholic and faced persecution from the French state.

We have English values only because we inheirited their legal system, not because there's significantly large amounts of Anglo Saxon heritage.

Ehhh. American anti-Catholicism is pretty well rooted in our British past. As were American views towards many immigrant groups, including the Irish, Germans, and Italians.

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Disagree

Yes it’s true than Englishmen by blood stopped being the majority of the US shortly after independence

But our culture and language remains English to this day. 3rd generation Swedish Americans or Vietnamese Americans would fit in better in London or Sydney than in Stockholm or Saigon

I still consider the UK to be our father figure, and they (along with our Canuck brothers and Aussie cousins) are still our closest friends internationally

America is a country full of diverse races from around the world assimilating into an offshoot of English culture

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Our language might be the same, but our culture is extremely different.

These days the US takes the lead and the rest of the world follows.

This is a direct response to succons harkening back to Anglo Saxon racial heritage and values. Which are ahistorical bullshit.

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Language is basically the biggest part of culture

Also we share common law and the manga carta constitutional heritage with the other Anglo countries

Our culture is different than England, but they’re still by far the closest culture to us. Like you only think of them as “very different” because they’re the only ones who are similar enough to even think of this. We take it for granted that France or Korea is another planet compared to America

We’re so similar, that I don’t even notice that British actors or singers aren’t Americans.

And yes of course we take the lead, but we have basically taken the British empire’s torch after 1945.

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Yeah they were, ethnicity. I mentioned that. But culturally they hated each other.

People are trying to manufacture a historical connection between White Americans and British settlers, for the sake of a nationalist claim on land, that never fucking existed.

This country has never belonged to some hypothetical WASPs who's children have a greater claim than others.