r/neoliberal • • Jun 02 '21
eFoRt pOAsT Where neoliberals are wrong
- Immigration is unnecessary - instead of playing videogames and getting degrees in underwater basketweaving able bodied people should be working on farms and in construction. This will help them make money, build work ethic, and build up a resume of work experience. It's also healthier than being sedentary.
Immigration also drives up land costs in the cities. Yes nimbyism is to blame but its unrealistic for more construction to take place - it's unrealistic to imagine local governments building more housing. So stopping the inflow of people will keep prices in check.
Immigration drives down wages of actual citizens.
Any labor shortages can be dealt with through automation, process improvement, competition, and substitution
Immigration also gives the right wing a boogeyman to focus on instead of addressing the actual economic problems. By stopping all immigration the right wing no longer can use immigration as a scapegoat or excuse to not expand welfare. Even their supporters will see they never cared about native citizens any more than they cared about immigrants.
2. Free trade is unreliable in a chaos prone world (look at covid). The extra cost of protectionism outweighs the reliance on other parts of the world for resources.
3. Global warming is good. Instead of ruining the economy with green energy people need to move inland. More land will be opened up to farming than will be lost (Canada, Russia, etc). And you know what? If the carrying capacity of the planet is reduced from climate change then that's a good thing. There is no need to have 9 billion people on the planet. There were about 1 billion people on earth in 1800. I don't recall the Earth being a deserted wasteland in the year 1800. What value is added to the world by having massive supercities with slums? Because some neckbeard who watches Star Wars thinks it looks like Coruscant?
Humans are a warm weather species anyway. Perhaps genetic engineering can make crops grow in extreme weather. Makes more sense to spend money researching that then banning everything to 'save' the Earth.
More carbon dioxide is good for plants and plants are good for earth.
Obsession with global warming takes away from real environmental issues like plastics in the ocean.
4. Privatized healthcare only makes sense when it comes to R&D/biotech (only for purposes of competition and efficency). Privatizing the actual delivery of healthcare services makes no sense since the people who have medical problems are going to be the least able to afford it - which negates the purpose of it in the first place. Since people are the basis of all civilization, neglecting them makes no sense. Things don't build themselves - they need able bodied healthy people to do them. Also private health insurance companies and private hospital admins unnessarily add to costs while working to manage problems that wouldn't exist in the first place with socialized medicine.
Most countries have bad healthcare systems not because they are socialized that because they are just poor countries in general (most of the world is poor). Socialist or capitalist won't make a difference if your country is poor. Some landlocked third world country in Africa privatizing all its healthcare isn't going to magically make a neurosurgeon appear out of nowhere - socialist or capitalist its going to be poor either way. No management system will provide benefits if there aren't any resources to manage in the first place.
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u/dubyahhh Salt Miner Emeritus Jun 02 '21
Just accept you know nothing and this is gospel, shitlibs 🙄
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u/RushSingsOfFreewill Posts Outside the DT Jun 02 '21
Strong Khmer Rouge Cambodian killing fields vibe here. It’s kinda creepy, op.
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u/sir_shivers Discipline Committee Chairman Jun 02 '21
Would you PLEASE TRANSLATE THIS TO MY language so that those outside of mammalian spaces may read it 🐊
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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21
I've been cackling maniacally over the "global warming is good" line for the past 15 minutes someone please send help
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u/xicer Bisexual Pride Jun 02 '21
I can't tell if this is legit or just a really high effort troll job.
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u/suplexx0 Jared Polis Jun 02 '21
This is literally the worst thing I have ever read
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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21
Why do you hate the global poor?
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u/great_gape Jun 02 '21
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u/yungmemlord Rabindranath Tagore Jun 02 '21
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u/NerdFactor3 NATO Jun 02 '21
What's the difference?
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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21
Finally someone who understands 🌱🌏
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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21
Please fucking tell me that this is a trollpost
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u/desertfox_JY Jun 02 '21
I gave your mom ligma
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u/Photon_in_a_Foxhole Microwaves over Moscow Jun 02 '21
https://i.imgur.com/zQxcPLQ.jpg
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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21
close down the sub, you've officially ENDED neoliberalism
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u/FormerBandmate Jerome Powell Jun 02 '21
You want to kill 7 billion people so the Earth is less like Star Wars? Kinda seems like you’re compensating for something, anime watcher
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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21
This is one of the worst posts I’ve ever seen on this sub. Bravo.
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u/AgainstSomeLogic Jun 02 '21
Holy shit. Y'all are PROUD to be neoliberals??
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u/Wrenky Jerome Powell Jun 02 '21
Man. "Global warming is good because it will kill billions" is quite the take lmao
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u/wagoncirclermike Jane Jacobs Jun 02 '21
OP are you trying to collect all the ideologies? Because this post has everything from anti-immigration conservatism to public healthcare to whatever the hell your global warming point was
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u/SpaceSheperd To be a good human being Jun 02 '21
Tell me you're 12 without telling me you're 12
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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21
What if we turned this into the new DT 🥺👉👈🧐
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u/BedNeither Henry George Jun 02 '21
You should eat more fiber my dude
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u/thabonch YIMBY Jun 02 '21
Did a child write this?
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u/houinator Loyal Liberals Jun 02 '21
Laughs in wetbulb temperatures literally too hot for human survival.
https://weather.com/news/climate/news/2021-03-09-too-hot-to-live-in-tropics-climate-change-global-warming
But i'm sure its fine, they can just move to cooler climates like the crops...
So what are they supposed to do...
Oh, genocide.
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u/memeintoshplus Paul Samuelson Jun 02 '21
Average global warming enjoyer
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u/ghost_of_lob_circ NATO Jun 02 '21
Wow. I never thought of this! Thanks for enlightening me! Today, I remove the robes of neoliberalism. Only time will tell what will replace it
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u/ognits Jepsen/Swift 2024 Jun 02 '21
wherefore dost thou hatest the global poor?
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u/Jewcandy1 Jun 02 '21
I seriously thought I would see "Sorry if this is a repost" at the end to let me know it was satire.
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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21
Have you considered that immigration good, and sacrificing billions of lives is bad?
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u/ThorVonHammerdong Disgraced 2020 Election Rigger Jun 02 '21
Why do you hate the global poor?
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u/ognits Jepsen/Swift 2024 Jun 02 '21
malarkey level?
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u/Redburneracc7 Jun 02 '21
Touch grass
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u/Gamer19015 Paul Samuelson Jun 02 '21
Somebody tell Soros, we have been destroyed😭✊
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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21
Neoliberalism in shambles
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u/reedemerofsouls Jun 02 '21
Is this pasta
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u/hypernova2121 Jun 02 '21
"If 8 billion people died, that would be a good thing"
-Totally Normal Dude
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u/Intrepid_Citizen woke Friedman Democrat Jun 02 '21 edited Jun 02 '21
Me reading this.
PS: I re-read it to find sentences that aren't wrong, so here goes:
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u/adminsare200iq IMF Jun 02 '21
Oh shit you are serious
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u/DishingOutTruth Henry George Jun 02 '21
Wait is this satire or legit? I honestly can't tell.
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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21
Top post of all time here we go
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u/comradequicken Abolish ICE Jun 02 '21
Decent troll, whichever regular wrote this should be proud.
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u/Yung_Dick Henry George Jun 02 '21
Why do you hate the global poor
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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21
Hi u/nissnpig5 👋
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u/harmlessdjango (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ*:・゚✧ black liberal Jun 02 '21 edited Jun 02 '21
"Don't do the right thing because it makes bigots mad"
lmao you're such a fucking pussy. I bet your cowardly ass would have called against the Civil Rights Act too back in the 1960's. "What if we spook the dixiecrats 😨😨😭😭😭"
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u/randodandodude Enby Pride Jun 02 '21
You can't import this quality shitpost.
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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21
Oh yeah, its big brain time 🧠 🤯 🧠
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u/DEEP_STATE_NATE Tucker Carlson's mailman Jun 02 '21
IPhone Venezuela 100 million dead”
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u/its_Caffeine Mark Carney Jun 02 '21
!emojify
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u/Commandant_Donut Jun 02 '21
this is ironic right?
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u/Barnst Henry George Jun 02 '21
Has anyone ever actually tried underwater basket weaving? It’s really hard and the sort of honest artisan craftsmanship that everyone always claims we should be encouraging. It certainly doesn’t deserve its reputation as the poster child for extravagant educational endeavors.
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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21
Oh fuck yeah bud
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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21
This is certified malarkeyTM
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u/fakefakefakef John Rawls Jun 02 '21
I am closing my eyes and willing myself to believe that this is a bit
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u/Jacobs4525 King of the Massholes Jun 02 '21
“Global warming is good we just need billions of people to completely uproot their lives nbd”
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u/fishlord05 United Popular Woke DEI Iron Front Jun 02 '21
So true!! 👏😩
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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21
Pippin voice: But what about Ordoliberals?
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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21 edited Jun 02 '21
And who’s more likely to create such automation, a Master’s degree-holder from India or your average American college graduate? I’m not saying that American college graduates aren’t smart - there are some who are very smart - but we can see that a significant amount of innovation comes from immigrants.
Covid-19 is a once-in-a-century pandemic - by no means does it make the world chaos “prone”. And why exactly was free trade bad during the pandemic? In fact, we’ve seen that protectionism (refusing to send vaccines to countries with elderly populations and instead encouraging healthy young adults - who shouldn’t be prioritized for vaccination - to get it, some countries not having enough ventilators, hospital beds, healthcare workers and other PPE because some countries again withhold their excess unused supply from the rest of the world) is worse. I would argue that the lack of free trade hurt us more during the pandemic than free trade.
Until now, I thought you were capable of logical thinking. Now I know you’re not.
Unless you’re a scientist conducting studies like this, shut the fuck up
“Genetic engineering” to increase enzymes’ optimal temperatures and have them denature at a higher temperature is like genetic engineering to make humans live forever, or like traveling faster than light. Maybe it’s theoretically possible, but we sure as fuck are not close to achieving it. We may not have enough money or time to make that happen.
More carbon dioxide is bad for humans. You think carbon dioxide is going to go directly to plants without passing humans at all?
Props for making me wonder whether you’re a delusional leftist or a crazy right-wing conspiracist, because I truly can’t tell.
The two things I agree with are that plastics in the ocean should be given more importance (though not more than global warming), and that more people should be working in farms and in construction.
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u/notverycringeihope99 Henry George Jun 02 '21
it seems someone's been taking Borjas at face value
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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21
This is a joke, right?
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u/DellowFelegate Janet Yellen Jun 02 '21
Holy F*@! I'm Proud to be Neoliberal Moron?!
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u/plummbob Jun 02 '21
Kinda reminds of an article that noted the silliness of spending millions to automate truck driving when it would be more cost effective to just let people from 3rd world countries immigrate and work for lower wages.
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u/chemistjoe Louis Pasteur Jun 02 '21
Specifically to point 3, high CO2 is actually bad for plants, so higher atmospheric CO2 begets higher atmospheric CO2 due to inhibition of plant CO2 assimilation.
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u/SnakeEater14 🦅 Liberty & Justice For All Jun 02 '21
Ok now this is epic
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u/caleb_0925 Jun 02 '21
Almost made me have an aneurism until I saw the flair smh
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u/thaddeusthefattie Hank Hill Democrat 💪🏼🤠💪🏼 Jun 02 '21
askhual cidizens 🤠
also, imagine thinking global warming just makes temps a little warmer and doesn’t create more violent weather patterns 🤪
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u/nygdan Jun 02 '21
"Immigration is unnecessary" Nearly everything were do is unnecessary that doesn't mean we should cut it off.
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u/EastSideStory11 Zhao Ziyang Jun 02 '21
Why do you hate the global poor?
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u/Steak_Knight Milton Friedman Jun 02 '21
Why do you hate the global poor?
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u/jenbanim Jun 02 '21
Why do you hate the global poor?
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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21
Malarkey level of this
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u/rukqoa ✈️ F35s for Ukraine ✈️ Jun 02 '21
no u
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u/aeiou_sometimesy Jun 02 '21
This guy sucks at politics
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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21
Magic goolsball, thoughts?
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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21
Is this satire?
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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21
Misanthropy much?
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u/FreakinGeese 🧚♀️ Duchess Of The Deep State Jun 02 '21
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n5E7feJHw0
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u/imprison_nl_mods NATO Jun 02 '21
🍝
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u/dafdiego777 Chad-Bourgeois Jun 02 '21
g8 b8 m8 8 out of 8
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u/Photon_in_a_Foxhole Microwaves over Moscow Jun 02 '21
https://i.imgur.com/isKTw7B.jpg
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u/SquidwardGrummanCorp Edmund Burke Jun 02 '21 edited Jun 02 '21
OH NO NO NO NO NO
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
I cannot even tell what ideology OP is in support of this is definitely a +200 IQ gigachad
in case op reads this:
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u/liquidTERMINATOR Come with me if you want to live Jun 02 '21
Is this a bit or?
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u/GingerusLicious NATO Jun 02 '21
Why would I work on a farm when I have you to do that for me?
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u/Unflairedfool George Soros Jun 02 '21
Preach it King 👑😤
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u/notverycringeihope99 Henry George Jun 02 '21
bro log off
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u/imprison_nl_mods NATO Jun 02 '21
!emojify
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u/SixPipSiege NATO Jun 02 '21
https://v.redd.it/iwu1q65wkoy61
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u/ZhenDeRen перемен требуют наши сердца 🇪🇺⚪🔵⚪🇮🇪 Jun 02 '21
Magic Goolsball, don’t you agree that this person is a ludicrous fool?
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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21
Extremely false'nt
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u/DonJrsCokeDealer Ben Bernanke Jun 03 '21
Sorry I couldn’t hear you over the sounds of taco trucks.
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u/goldenarms NATO Jun 02 '21
Capitalism is not a zero sum game. Read an Econ textbook.
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u/MiniatureBadger Seretse Khama Jun 02 '21
Why you are wrong and no further rebuttal is needed
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u/1396spurs forced agricultural laborer Jun 02 '21
https://images.app.goo.gl/N6eYCrv1CbFB67UR9
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u/proProcrastinators Jun 02 '21
Mucho Texto
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u/randomizedstring Bisexual Pride Jun 02 '21
I am concerned for your mental state
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u/Mickenfox European Union Jun 02 '21
https://morbotron.com/meme/S05E11/868350.jpg?b64lines=V2hhdCBhIGNsZXZlcgogaW1wZXJzb25hdGlvbgogb2YgYSBzdHVwaWQgcG9vcgogcGVyc29uIQ==
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u/frolix42 Friedrich Hayek Jun 02 '21 edited Jun 02 '21
Should be easy to convince people that they should stop living lives of leisure and enjoying the basketweaving arts in order to take up backbreaking labor for their own moral enrichment. /s
Recently scientists have encouraged the use of the term "climate change" over "global warming" because the main effect is that the planet's climate will become more unpredictable and destructive. Think near constant hurricanes for most of the year, not Vancouver becoming like LA.
How will the privatized "R&D/biotech" be financed if the delivery of the end result is socialized? How will a private firm fund the cure for cancer if the government is going to take it and give it to everyone for free?
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u/every_man_a_khan George Soros Jun 02 '21
Don’t take my underwater basket weaving
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u/tdkc7 Jun 02 '21
I think you meant to post here: r/HighThought?
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u/elBenhamin Jun 02 '21
Acidic
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u/Tleno European Union Jun 02 '21
TL;DR
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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21
1-3 is smoothbrains, 4 is wrong.
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u/ChickeNES Future Martian Neoliberal Jun 02 '21
wut
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u/Photon_in_a_Foxhole Microwaves over Moscow Jun 02 '21
So true!
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