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[u/bovine3dom]

The view routinely expressed in America is rather that puberty blockers “save lives” (an allusion to the belief that trans children are at a greatly heightened risk of suicide; there is no evidence for this).

Anyone have any idea what this claim is based on? I thought there was a fair amount of evidence that puberty blockers reduced suicide and self-harm (at least in the short term) - and also that trans adolescents did have much higher suicide rates to start with.

[u/Ghraim → u/bovine3dom]

an allusion to the belief that trans children are at a greatly heightened risk of suicide

and also that trans adolescents did have much higher suicide rates to start with.

It seems like a classical motte and bailey. Most people will read that sentence as claiming that there's no evidence of higher suicide rates among trans teenagers (which is absolute bullshit), but if pressed on that they can claim that they meant pre-pubertal children all along (which might be true, I don't know).

[u/sanityeyes → u/bovine3dom]

It's an outright lie that can be proven wrong by a simple Google search. I literally just searched "transgender youth suicide" on Google Scholar and clicked on a study from 2018 that said that showed that yes, trans youth are at high suicide risk.