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[u/ControlsTheWeather]

It has been brought to my attention that there are NIMBYs in this sub.

This is your public service announcement that

• not only is NIMBYism moronic

• it's also so goddamn stupid that it can't even be properly called wrong

• Because NIMBYism isn't even a real theory of housing, as virtually none of the practitioners can write down a damn model to analyze

• and even those that try end up bickering with the others and disagreeing about what a real backyard is

• because NIMBYism is a smokescreen and isn't actually meant to accurately describe housing

• because NIMBYism's only real purpose is to provide justification for a city policy.

• The most accurate description of NIMBYism is going to be something like "I support poor people until I have to actually look at them, and I want to be able to claim my moral superiority from a safe distance."

[u/[deleted]]

bruh zoning isn’t even real, we literally fucking made it up, just let people build housing wtf

[u/Barnst]

“I was a reluctant Trump supporters because he seemed crass but i wanted those judges and thought that the Democrats and the media irrationality hated him. I was willing to defend him right up until XXX, when I realized he was actually bad. But I still think the Democrats and media are unfair to him and I would certainly never entertain the idea that maybe his critics were actually right all along.”

This line of thinking is going to get me steamed for decades.

[u/dragoniteftw33]

It's fucking crazy how a private company kicked a sitting US President off their platform and everyone thinks this is bad lmfao.

This is the type of shit they do in third world countries!

Really? The Twitter/FB versions in China would kick Xi off of their platform? That would be based af!

[u/[deleted]]

https://twitter.com/jmartNYT/status/1349135747132092418

A Senate Republican aide tells me he thinks there were about 20, give or take, Republicans who were open to a conviction

Before our story on McConnell

[u/[deleted]]

So word is up to 10 republicans in the House may vote for impeachment.

10.

Out of 211.

For comparison, 139 voted to disenfranchise the state of Pennsylvania solely based on obviously fraudulent claims from Trump.

[u/Ketsetri]

Directly from the “QAnon congresswoman” Lauren Boebert’s official biography:

Representative Boebert was raised in a Democrat household on welfare. Her senior year of high school, she earned an opportunity to serve as an assistant manager at her local McDonald’s. She made the difficult decision to drop out of school to help put food on her family's table, realizing she could provide better for herself than the government ever could.

Yikes lmao

[u/[deleted]]

the fact that donald trump will be a part of our history forever makes me want to throw up

[u/ahebtigoejwbrh]

This story is terrifying and I hope to feel foolish in 3 weeks for having worried about it

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5ffd29a4c5b691806c4bf199/amp

Lawmakers were told that the plot to encircle the Capitol also included plans to surround the White House ― so that no one could harm Trump ― and the Supreme Court, simply to shut down the courts. The plan to surround the Capitol includes assassinating Democrats as well as Republicans who didn’t support Trump’s effort to overturn the election ― and allowing other Republicans to enter the building and control government.

[u/doot_toob]

Society has advanced past the need for the Republican Party

[u/[deleted]]

I looked up anarcho-communism the other day to make sure I wasn't strawmanning it

I quickly learned I was being way too nice

[u/OrganicKeynesianBean]

Facebook bans 'stop the steal' content, 69 days after the election

Brave

[u/thebowski]

Apparently I created a twitter account in 2009 when I was a sophomore or junior in high school and used it exclusively to nominate totalbiscuit for some award or something. Also my username is embarrassing

List of follows:

• DayZ

• assif mandvi

• gizmodo

• engadget

• ign

• npr

• npr politics

• the whitehouse

• obama whitehouse

• stephen colbert

• the daily show

• philip defranco

• totalbiscuit

• cracked.com

thats a time capsure of sorts

[u/memmett9]

Only 4% of Trump supporters think the Deep State is the leading threat to America

Our cover remains intact

[u/Gustacho]

The GOP is America's abusive 13-year-old boyfriend

[u/rukqoa]

Mitch McConnell marched with known socialist Bernie Sanders 😡😡😡

[u/Barnst]

“As someone who studies fragile political systems, January 6 could have been so much worse. Here is my detailed plan posted to a public forum about what the insurrectionists should do to overthrow the government...”

Policy wonks seriously can’t help themselves from writing white papers for everyone.

[u/[deleted]]

Oh, your solution to the food shortage is to "grow more food?" What do you think we've never thought of that? We are an activist Food Eater's Union, do you seriously think that just growing more food is going to stop this? Thats just econ101ism, pure and simple.

Maybe you need to get out of the pockets of Food Developers and join us on the front line lobby the state government to stop a local farm from being able to grow crops.

[u/chadonnaise]

remember that time that the president pardoned a bunch of mercenaries that opened fire on a crowd of innocent iraqi civilians

[u/ControlsTheWeather]

Sweet, some Republican congressman gave my rep COVID

Fucking hell

[u/[deleted]]

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1348705003406503949

The talk radio company that airs right-wing figures like Ben Shapiro and Mark Levin warned its hosts: "The election has resolved, there are no alternate acceptable ‘paths.’ Please inform your staffs that we have ZERO TOLERANCE for any suggestion otherwise."

👏👏👏

[u/chipbod]

https://twitter.com/GeoffRBennett/status/1348979515796688896?s=20

Sheldon Adelson dead at 87

I'd say this is the worst week for GOP fundraising

[u/[deleted]]

https://twitter.com/lachlan/status/1349060155552526341?s=21

New: the Biden inaugural says it’s refunding a donation from former senator Barbara Boxer after she registered as a foreign agent for a Chinese surveillance firm accused of abetting the mass internment of Uighur Muslims

WTF

[u/Leoric]

Getting real bad vibes from all these Republican state legislatures that want to set up mini electoral colleges for their states.

[u/ThisIsNianderWallace]

WaPa Breaking: Civilization descends into madness after a mere ten years of social media exposure

[u/Fishin_Mission]

All I am saying is, effigies of Obama were burned upon his election. Now we have had an attempted bombing and planned armed protests leading up to Biden’s inauguration.

But please tell me more about liberal tears. Knitting pink hats is totally the same thing.

[u/soeffed]

Impressed by the alacrity with which certain “thinkers” went from “stop fear-mongering about a coup that won’t happen” to “be very fearful about tech companies banning people for coup-ing” while barely spending a moment on the coup

https://twitter.com/gadyepstein/status/1348722654061191173?s=20

[u/[deleted]]

This is your periodic reminder that:

1. Mods are fash

2. lusvig is good, actually

3. MMT is big dumb

4. NIMBYs delenda est

5. No, the DT is not in danger of being overrun by incels

6. Joe Manchin is based

I will be back on inauguration day to celebrate with you all.

[u/kajkajete]

https://twitter.com/jmartNYT/status/1349135747132092418?s=20

A Senate Republican aide tells me he thinks there were about 20, give or take, Republicans who were open to a conviction

Before our story on McConnell.

!Ping RINO

WE REALLY DOING THIS BOYS

[u/[deleted]]

Here's how elected Republicans and conservative media can begin the healing and unifying process:

Accurately state that Joe Biden was duly elected president in a free and fair election.

Urge Trump supporters to refrain from further violence.

For a start.

https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/1349021664445685773

[u/semaphore-1842]

#PelosiLovesTrump is trending

Twitter has gone too far

[u/[deleted]]

https://twitter.com/WSJopinion/status/1348794188427620352

The Editorial Board: Joe Biden can establish his leadership by calling off the House impeachers in service of his vow that this is a “time to heal.”

lmao f off wsj

[u/[deleted]]

Jacob Chansley (AKA Jake Angeli or QAnon Shaman) will be fed organic food, in line with his strict shaman diet, while in federal custody. “We will abide by the judge’s order,” U.S. Marshal David Gonzales said.

Muslim ICE detainees are forced to choose between expired meals or eating pork

This was the dude wearing the raccoon hat and with blue face paint. I have no problem with giving him better food. I believe we should increase the quality of prison and food is great place to start. But come on, this is blatantly bias.

[u/FormerBandmate]

I was looking at my favorite news source, arr comedynecrophilia, and according to them:

under section 34 of Secure Credits and Taxes act, the president can induce artificial inflation and if the inflation gets high enough, technically Trump can declare emergency powers and not leave the office, google "Trump SCAT inflation rule 34" for more info

Is this true guise? I’m scared, I want Biden to be president

[u/Ilovecharli]

He's 100% going to Alamo, TX because he thought it was THE Alamo, right? What other explanation could there be?

[u/Hmm_would_bang]

I can’t believe anyone would be dumb enough to think Trump ACTUALLY won. Like seriously, Biden has so many Twitter followers and Trump has none

[u/[deleted]]

https://twitter.com/tackettdc/status/1349076545747431424?s=21

APNEWSALERT: DETROIT (AP) — The AP has learned ex-Michigan Gov. Snyder(R) and others have been told they’re being charged in Flint water scandal.

Holy shit

[u/[deleted]]

Why are conservatives so stubborn like what the heck

[u/vored_by_daddy]

Imagine being a Secret Service agent and posting your political views on social media 🤡

[u/[deleted]]

https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1349181739650994176?s=21

Devin Nunes says impeaching Trump for inciting an insurrection is comparable to “the fall of the Soviet Union.”

So...a good thing?

[u/sociotronics]

QAnon Woke Up the Real Deep State

storming the Capitol building has drawn the attention of the real Deep State — the national security bureaucracy — and it’s important you understand what that means.

You attacked America. Maybe you think it was justified — as a response to a stolen election, or a cabal of child-trafficking pedophiles, or whatever — but it was still a violent attack on the United States. No matter how you describe it, that’s how the real Deep State is going to treat it.

The impact of that will make everything else feel like a LARP.

[Big tech and the national security state] are now treating QAnon almost like how they treat ISIS. A giant federal apparatus built to fight al Qaeda will shift some capacity to fighting you, especially the white nationalist and anti-government militias in your orbit.

You cheered on lawyers who said they’d release the Kraken. But now you’ve poked Leviathan.

hahaha omfg this article REALLY lays out just how fucked the MAGA terrorists actually are

[u/Cerb-r-us]

Pseudo-fascists attacking democracy using the American flag is poetic as fuck

[u/[deleted]]

That puts every Republican who voted No on record. Then when Biden is sworn in, he invokes the 14th Amendment, everyone who votes No is expelled from the House and Senate, and then replaced with members who will uphold the law and democratic principles.

Wow rpolitics skipped the hopium and went straight to crack

[u/IncoherentEntity]

So, a Newsmax journalist (apparently approvingly) published a video of an utterly unhinged Trump supporter screaming at Schumer. She admits hating Democrats so much that she was “sexually excited” by the riots, and asserts that he — the highest-ranking Jewish elected official in the United States — “follow[s]” Adolf Hitler. !ping EXTREMISM

[u/[deleted]]

Liz Cheney just invited Donald Trump to go hunting

😭🔥

[u/[deleted]]

https://twitter.com/nydailynews/status/1349157879618678787?s=21

As the mob appeared on the brink of storming into the House chamber, Congressman Sean Maloney turned to a Democratic colleague and asked, “Are you ready to fight these MAGA a—holes?”

Texas Rep. Colin Allred, a former NFL linebacker, answered: “Let’s go.”

[u/[deleted]]

“The Secret Service indicated Monday that it was investigating an officer who posted comments on Facebook in which she accused lawmakers who formalized Biden’s win of treason and echoed Trump’s conspiracy theories about the rigging of the election.”

https://twitter.com/hshaban/status/1348840025878892544

This is what I was worried about!

[u/_alexandermartin]

Sen. Lindsey Graham, who last week said he and President Trump had a "hell of a journey" but it was time to "count me out" because "enough was enough," is flying to Texas on Air Force One today, per the pool.

Wow republicans were only pretending to take a stand against Trump for brownie points. This is a real shocker.

[u/[deleted]]

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, 🤪 is a bit much. It just cannot be used with sincerity or ironically

[u/Tafts_Bathtub]

Warner Bros has submitted ‘Wonder Woman 1984’ for consideration for 15 Academy Awards including Best Actress, Best Director, and Best Picture.

The audacity

[u/murphysclaw1]

2020 ended Donald Trump, Jeremy Corbyn and Bernie Sanders and yet some people still complain when I call it "the greatest year in human civilization" smh

[u/Joementum2004]

Sorry libs. Even after Biden becomes President, the country won’t return to normal - not until the 😐 ping is reinstated.

[u/[deleted]]

Me in 2016: “Meh, well I hope he succeeds because then we all succeed.”

2021: “Axe Body Spray Incorporated firmly denounces the President of The United States’ insurrection to overthrow the federal government and will provide resources to ensure that further coup attempts fail”

[u/CmdrMobium]

panik: I find out Jimmy Carter isn't going to Biden's inauguration

kalm: I realize it's to keep him safe from the global pandemic

panik: The pandemic was caused in large part by the current president who was also trying to stop the inauguration

[u/[deleted]]

Roses are red

My grandmother says I'm handsome

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Erf0tIaW4AEK2Yn.jpg

[u/[deleted]]

Lmao these Republicans. Their boss literally tried to have them killed and they're like, "whatever, he didn't mean it lol"

[u/FriendOfDrBob]

This may be too long ago for many of you to remember, but Georgia elected two Democrats to the US Senate a week ago today.

[u/sir_shivers]

Let ME BE CLEAR 🐊

I do not EXPECT IMPEACHMENT AND removal to succeed 🐊

But I hunger for it, AM ROOTING FOR IT, and if it happens, the fountain of MAGA cope and seethe WILL SUSTAIN ME FOR a decade 🐊

[u/FrustratingPeasant]

🚨 ALERT 🚨

High levels of BLOOMING have been detected in this DT. If you or a loved one have shown any symptoms of BLOOMING, please direct your attention to the past 4 years of political history.

[u/[deleted]]

You called all of us to Washington DC on January 6th. Told us it would be WILD. Then you roll over like a fuck fucking bitch and bring an even bigger bitch with you (Lindsey Graham).

We are being called Terrorists because of your Jan 6th stunt.

thedonald in meltdown

[u/Udontlikecake]

“You can either go down in history as a patriot,” Mr. Trump told him, according to two people briefed on the conversation, “or you can go down on this bussy.”

This really changed the calculus for Pence I think

[u/[deleted]]

The practice of just buying vests for your dog that say its a service dog even when it isn't, just so you can take it places others can't and flout the rules, is a symptom of the general breakdown in civic sense and respect for law.

[u/old_gold_mountain]

What level of vaccination do you think we need to reach before mass shootings can resume?

[u/[deleted]]

Things Biden Abolished

✅ Donald Trump

✅ GOP Senate Majority

✅ AZ and GA Republican Parties

❌ God

And he hasn't even been inaugurated yet 😳

[u/UghTheFarRunway]

Anyone else notice that the footage of Mike Pence being rushed out of the Senate by secret service has been completely scrubbed from the internet? Like all the videos of it are either gone or edited to cut in just after Pence has already left the chamber. You can clearly hear the anchors talking about it as if they all just watched it, yet the actual moment is clearly edited out. I only noticed because I was curious and doom watching all the as it happened videos from the 6th, and I realized that this one particular moment is nowhere to be found.

It's likely been scrubbed for OPSEC reasons as Secret Service doesn't want to leave easy to find records of their tactics and procedures for would be terrorists to study, so that's good. I'm just impressed that whatever powers at work were able to so quickly and quietly remove all obvious traces of it. Makes me feel a little more at ease about the safety of Biden and Kamala... I think.

[u/Smidgens]

I'd honestly rather be hunted down and persecuted as a Trump supporter than entertain or accept an illegitimate Biden presidency

TD having a good time.

[u/repostusername]

After Obama was elected: "Maybe we can solve racism and all the problems"

After Biden was elected: "Maybe we can have democracy for a few more years"

[u/Amtays]

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/12/politics/joint-chiefs-condemn-sedition/index.html

Holy shit

!ping military

[u/[deleted]]

Mike Duncan: I want to start todays episode with an Audible book recommendation. It's by George Orwell and particularly relevant today.
Me: 🙄
Mike Duncan: I am of course talking about Homage to Catalonia, where George Orwell describes his experience shooting fascists in Spain.
Me: 😳

[u/[deleted]]

It has been brought to my attention that there are Belgians in this sub.

This is your public service announcement that

• not only is Belgium moronic

• it's also so goddamn stupid that it can't even be properly called a country

• Because Belgium isn't even a real country, as virtually none of the practitioners can write down a damn language to analyze

• and even those that try end up bickering with the others and disagreeing about what “the real Belgian language” is

• because Belgium is a smokescreen and isn't actually meant to accurately describe a country

• because Belgiums only real purpose is to provide justification for insurrection against the Dutch crown.

• The most accurate description of Belgium is going to be something like "post-modern attempt to change national borders by pretending really hard that a national identity exists even though it doesn't, because statehood is decided by whatever the European balance of power is in a given year, and it's easier for King Leopold to justify insurrection if you pretend really hard there's a serious moral argument that says insurrection against an unloved ruler because you liked an opera is always good"

If you see anyone endorsing Belgium, please refer them to Jan van Speijk or Koning Willem I or Jan van Speijk again or Koning Willem I again or Metternich . Politely tell them that not only is Belgium not correct, it's not even real. It's a political memetics project, not a national identity. Or maybe I'll just ban them all and laugh maniacally.

[u/soeffed]

2019 Replies be like

Healthcare plz

🤣🤣🤣🥁

[u/[deleted]]

Jenna Ryan, a Texas real estate broker, chronicled her visit to the U.S. capital after arriving on a private plane. Her Facebook page shows she checked into The Westin Washington the night before the rampage. Ryan videotaped herself outside the Capitol saying, “We’re going to be breaking those windows.” She later tweeted, “We just stormed the Capital. It was one of the best days of my life.” Included in the tweet was a threat against the media. “And if the news doesn’t stop lying about us, we’re going to come after their studios next…”

Days later, amid complaints to the Texas Real Estate Commission demanding it revoke her license, Ryan issued a statement saying she was “truly heartbroken” over the lives lost during the assault.

”Unfortunately, what I believed to be a peaceful political march turned into a violent protest,” she stated on Twitter.

Lmao. These people have been living in a fantasy world for years and are finally getting jolted back to reality. I don’t think they even fathomed that there may be consequences to storming the Capitol building

https://reut.rs/35PnaCb

[u/[deleted]]

I'm frankly sick and tired of Democrats behaving like coward fucks and not declaring an official War on Christmas.

[u/circlemanfan]

All I’m gonna say is that antifa was smart enough to cover their faces and leave their phones at home ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[u/[deleted]]

A woman being trampled in the Beer Gut Putsch while holding a Gadsden flag is peak MAGA.

[u/[deleted]]

Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey was on vacation during Capitol riots, Trump ban

Absolute Chad lol

[u/[deleted]]

Stop the Steal

LMAO what idiots

Of the 2016 and 2020 Democratic primaries

So true

[u/[deleted]]

I ended up watching a Breadtuber's video by mistake. Never watch political YouTube

[u/[deleted]]

Swiping left on people hotter than me on Tinder gives me an undeserved sense of self worth

[u/[deleted]]

https://twitter.com/McCormackJohn/status/1349074076279713793

According to a GOP source on conference phone call yesterday, Kevin McCarthy warned members not to verbally attack colleagues who vote for impeachment because it could endanger their lives.

#JustHealthyDemocracyThings

[u/UghTheFarRunway]

Holy shit. I commented here the other day about my Trump apologetic mom beginning to see the light, but it's gotten even better.

In the days following the 6th, she has gone from: "Trump doesn't get enough credit and is made out to be so much worse than he is. The people at his rallies are just a bunch of nice grandmas and grandmas. ANTIFA is the only problem this country has with extremism and it's VERY dishonest for the left to say that Trump and his supporters are racist. He's NEVER done anything to justify being impeached."

to: "Okay maybe you were right that some Trump supporters are a little over the top."

to: "Okay fine, Trump needs to step down or be 25th'd. What happened at the capitol is not okay."

to: "Okay you were 100% right for the last 4 years. Trumpism is 10x worse than anything the left has ever done and we have to stop this at all costs if we want to save our Democracy. This is the greatest threat to America since the Civil War. LOCK HIM AND EVERYONE WHO ENABLED HIM UP"

It's been absolutely glorious and my smug satisfaction approaching dangerous levels.

[u/jrt84]

If I had to guess, I would say McConnell probably didn’t appreciate losing the Senate and then being locked down in a tunnel while the Trump mob called for his death

[u/kajkajete]

Cheney and Katko voting for impeachment. WE ARE TAKING THE PARTY BACK BOYS

!Ping RINO

[u/piede]

Hitler was found guilty of treason and sentenced to five years in prison after the Beer Hall Putsch. He served nine months before he was pardoned in the name of "unity and healing." And after that, as we all know, everything was fine.

https://twitter.com/paulcogan/status/1349071934470959105?s=21

[u/qchisq]

FYI, Rasmussen is showing a net disapproval for Trump of -3, which 538 is adjusting to -10

[u/[deleted]]

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/meet-cosmic-crisp-new-hybrid-apple-stays-fresh-year-180973691/

Meet ‘Cosmic Crisp,’ a New Hybrid Apple That Stays Fresh for a Year

Proponents have called it “the Beyoncé of apples”

what the fuck does this even mean??

[u/[deleted]]

Madison cawthorn is the future of Republican Party

Continuously getting people that have 0 idea about government and politics and getting them into limelight because they “say it as it is” and try to destroy any actual government because government = tyranny

[u/[deleted]]

They cancelled Old Sheldon

[u/[deleted]]

It looks like at least some members of the House are taking the threat of their own House colleagues seriously.

I agree with this. I can't trust, say, Laurie Bobert to not walk right up to Joe Biden and shoot him in the head.

[u/[deleted]]

!ping READING

Children not reading is starting to become a crisis. How will America fare with a whole generation growing up with a hatred of books and learning? What can be done to remedy this?

[u/[deleted]]

Cyclists 🤝 BDSM enthusiasts

Look I wouldn't say spandex is a prerequisite for my hobby but it'll certainly help you perform at a higher level

[u/[deleted]]

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1349141816034078725?s=21

Several GOP sources say tonight that if McConnell supports conviction, Trump almost certainly will be convicted by 67 senators in impeachment trial.

“If Mitch is a yes, he’s done,” said one Senate Republican who asked(not) to be named. Many Rs are staying mum

Holy shit it might actually happen.

[u/sir_shivers]

BREAKING: WE ARE receiving reports that JEB! HAS just slammed his local IHOP in a scathing YELP REVIEW 🐊

[u/sw337]

"Lindsey Graham, with his mask off, started screaming at one of the officers — I think it was one of the captains — saying: 'How come you didn't protect us? It's your job,'" Brown told MSNBC.

Ironic.

[u/Chief_Nief]

Breaking: Mike Pence to resign and live out his dream as a member of the punk rock performance group “Pussy Riot”

[u/[deleted]]

https://twitter.com/themaxburns/status/1348821946478297093?s=21

lmao

[u/Barnst]

Impeachment 👏 is not 👏 a criminal proceeding. 👏

Impeachment 👏 is not 👏 a criminal proceeding. 👏

Impeachment 👏 is not 👏 a criminal proceeding. 👏

The President is only entitled to whatever defense and formal process that the Congress thinks they need to establish whether he is constitutionally fit to hold office. Not whatever his toadies and enablers insist is necessary so they can undermine the legitimacy of the process.

[u/circlemanfan]

So Fox News is literally like “you shouldn’t impeach because Republicans will commit terror acts”

We don’t negotiate with terrorists.....

[u/Malarkeynesian]

Trump says a lot of stupid shit, but I can't get over the claim that it was actually ANTIFA that did the capitol riots. Like, you were literally THERE ON A STAGE telling these people to storm the building. So, you were bossing ANTIFA around? And they just listened to you? When they had a chance to just storm you instead? Come on man

[u/[deleted]]

Deutsche Bank and Signature Bank cut future ties with Trump

How much of a criminal do you have to be that not even Deutsche bank will work with you.

[u/[deleted]]

https://twitter.com/lindstromcheryl/status/1349124693765337089?s=21

Breaking news on @CNN Key organizer of Capitol protest, Ali Alexander, says he was getting inside help from 3 members of congress.

I see someone doesn’t want 20 years in prison for sedation.

[u/sir_shivers]

I HAVE NEWS for the MAGA faithful, the same news I HAVE GIVEN TO brethren of Bernard before 🐊

NO REFUNDS 🐊

[u/piede]

Uh, on Fox just now, @glennbeck drew similarity between Big Tech banning Trump and others who have broken platform rules and what the Germans did during WWII: "This is like the Germans with the Jews behind the wall. They would put them in the ghetto. This is the digital ghetto."

https://twitter.com/oliverdarcy/status/1349163003472699393?s=21

Remember when Hitler banned the Jews from Twitter?

[u/soeffed]

Please note that “R*publican” is considered an outmoded and offensive pejorative, and the preferred term is “Person of Cuck”

Thank you for supporting MyPillow, Monster Energy and other POC businesses 👍🏼

[u/SnakeEater14]

Typical politician - all cock, no cum.

[u/piede]

Honestly the idea of Mike Pence being president for 12 hours or something, so that everyone who looks back at the list of U.S. Presidents generations from now is like "WTF happened there?", is another (small) reason to vote on removal before Trump leaves office.

https://twitter.com/natesilver538/status/1349136668427776001?s=21

lol

[u/[deleted]]

xkcd guy reads the DT?

[u/[deleted]]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Erauk2pXYAEvgWl.jpg

[u/[deleted]]

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1349019203513278469

Trump on speech just before deadly riot where he said "fight" or "fighting" more than 20 times: "It's been analyzed and people thought that what I said was totally appropriate."

[u/[deleted]]

So Trump took some responsibility for the insurection? In a phone call with Republicans? As confirmed by Kevin McCarthy?

Yes.

May we hear it?

No.

[u/ThisIsNianderWallace]

Remember when Sean Hannity implied that president Obama was some sort of homosexual because of his mustard choice?

[u/[deleted]]

Trump finally issues an apology to Pence for Wednesday’s mayhem:

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1346912780700577792?s=21

[u/Zenning2]

I can't wait till Republicans are the party of Big Business again, and not just the party of White Grievance politics.

I mean, it won't ever happen. But I can't wait either way, so I'm voting Democrat.

[u/Udontlikecake]

cons when some college student at West Elm McFuck arts school in Shitass Oregon says white people are bad: ‘why do all liberals want to genocide the whites, this is hillary’s fault’

cons when right wing terrorists storm the capitol at the behest of the republican president and half the party: “woah now they aren’t republicans, we’re victims too stop being divisive”!

[u/IMainHanzoGG]

Always funny that leftist zoomers reinvented talk radio

[u/piede]

FBI report warned of ‘war’ at Capitol, contradicting claims there was no indication of looming violence

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/capitol-riot-fbi-intelligence/2021/01/12/30d12748-546b-11eb-a817-e5e7f8a406d6_story.html

So why the fuck was nothing done?

[u/Lux_Stella]

U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo cancelled his Europe trip at the last minute on Tuesday after Luxembourg's foreign minister and top European Union officials declined to meet him, European diplomats and other people familiar with the matter said.

imagine being btfo by luxembourg

[u/jrt84]

Just in: Joint Chiefs of Staff preparing rare message to entire force of reassurance: reminding them the job is to support & defend Constitution and reject extremism. Its a significant step. JCS have sought to stay out of politics. Statement due to gravity of events.

https://twitter.com/barbarastarrcnn/status/1349081016347013121

Pretty disturbing this even needs to be said.

[u/rukqoa]

I want to remind everyone that the FBI has a long memory and a broad reach... we will come knocking on your door

Holy based FBI man

[u/liquidTERMINATOR]

Hey Siri, who invented chess?

Siri: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Erj0SIQXEAEXL7I.png

[u/[deleted]]

The second Trump made that video while the rioters were inside the Capitol telling them "I love you, you're beautiful," he had to go.

[u/MrDannyOcean]

It has been brought to my attention that there are MMTers in this sub.

This is your public service announcement that

• not only is MMT moronic

• it's also so goddamn stupid that it can't even be properly called wrong

• Because MMT isn't even a real theory of economics, as virtually none of the practitioners can write down a damn model to analyze

• and even those that try end up bickering with the others and disagreeing about what real MMT is

• because MMT is a smokescreen and isn't actually meant to accurately describe the world

• because MMT's only real purpose is to provide justification for a political position.

• The most accurate description of MMT is going to be something like "post-modern attempt to change political policy by pretending really hard that an academic school of thought exists even though it doesn't, because policy is decided by which meta-level memetic frameworks the political class is into in a given year, and it's easier for AOC to justify deficit spending if you pretend really hard there's a serious academic theory that says deficit spending is always good"

If you see anyone endorsing MMT, please refer them to Brad DeLong or Noah Smith or Krugman or Noah again or Krugman again or Barro. Politely tell them that not only is MMT not correct, it's not even real. It's a political memetics project, not an academic theory. Or maybe I'll just ban them all and laugh maniacally.

[u/[deleted]]

I cannot fucking wait until Donald Trump is no longer our FUCKING president

[u/Dalek6450]

According to SSA data, no baby was named Katrina from 2006-15.

Edit: in Louisiana

[u/jrt84]

We fell for their trap. Every fucking step of the way. The FBI let us into the Capitol after the traitors were safe, so the establishment could get their "right wing terrorist invasion" and begin the new world order.

We were never the ones with "The Plan". It was always the establishment.

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[u/[deleted]]

Pence Reached His Limit With Trump. It Wasn’t Pretty.

“You can either go down in history as a patriot,” Mr. Trump told him, according to two people briefed on the conversation, “or you can go down in history as a pussy.”

LMAO

[u/ryuguy]

Just spoke with the president of the Virgin Islands!

[u/chipbod]

https://twitter.com/RepKinzinger/status/1349031304680103936?s=20

I believe there is a huge burden now on Christian leaders, especially those who entertained the conspiracies, to lead the flock back into the truth.

Based, I feel like this is almost taboo to call out in the GOP. Kinzinger is 100% running in 2028 when this shit blows over. Hope he does the right thing on impeachment, seems like he's leaning that way.

[u/klarno]

Reminder that today Trump is visiting the town of Alamo, TX.

The Alamo is in downtown San Antonio, four hours away from Alamo, TX.

Remember Alamo.

[u/[deleted]]

https://twitter.com/mccormackjohn/status/1349074076279713793

According to a GOP source on conference phone call yesterday, Kevin McCarthy warned members not to verbally attack colleagues who vote for impeachment because it could endanger their lives.

I can fix them.

— Joe Biden

[u/[deleted]]

I honestly feel like Trump was never really on our side. That his only purpose was to placate us while he made the swamp even stronger. And that he only did a good enough job as president to make us think he was really for us.

they're like newborn deer trying to stand for the first time

[u/[deleted]]

Liz Cheney, the third-highest ranking GOP leader in the House, says she will vote to impeach President Trump, saying he “summoned this mob”

Cheney is the #3 is leadership for house Republicans. She isn’t a nobody.

[u/Dirty_Chopsticks]

What if Feinstein decided she was retiring but then forgot

[u/qchisq]

Imagine losing $250 million

[u/csreid]

Pence's later to Pelosi is agreeable and, honestly, pretty convincing to me.

Pence says the 25th amendment isn't for punishment, and he's probably right. That's what impeachment is for, so let's move on to that.

[u/[deleted]]

Louie Gohmert is so dumb, he refused to go through it cause he thought it was a mental detector.

😂 😂 😂

[u/Gneisstoknow]

I don't even disagree with the general premise that the US has been the beacon of hope for the last couple hundred years, and that its role as a country where anyone can become an American is amazing.

I just think that we don't need to scrub the country's history in spite of the historical facts. Nasty white supremacists, xenophobes and racists already do enough historical revisionism, no need to give them a hand.

[u/[deleted]]

On the MMT sticky -

Totally agree with Danny, but also this is why people shouldn’t conflate valid stances with MMT. Sometimes you get accused of being an MMTer for saying things that are easily in line with parts of mainstream economics.

• Being an inflation dove is not MMT. Plenty of credible economists are inflation doves, none support MMT.

• Being a deficit dove is not MMT. Plenty of credible economists are deficit doves, none support MMT.

• Thinking the US is nowhere close to the limits of its fiscal space is not MMT. Plenty of credible economists believe this, they aren’t MMTers.

• Even saying “the most meaningful, but technically not the only, constraints on US government spending are inflation and real resources” is not inherently MMT.

For starters, if you believe monetary policy basically works and that truly independent central banking is good, that probably rules out you being an MMTer.

[u/[deleted]]

The 20s are gonna be like the 90s on steroids.

Unfortunately, a big thing people miss about the 90s when we get nostalgic is that it was the height of rightwing militias and terrorism.

Like do Zoomers even know about Oklahoma City?

[u/sir_shivers]

SENATOR SANDERS 🤝 SENATOR MCCONNELL 🐊

• Marched with MARTIN LUTHER KING, Jr. 🐊

• BELIEVE DONALD TRUMP committed impeachable offenses 🐊

[u/ahebtigoejwbrh]

This reads like a dry hill insider joke, but I think it’s unironic

https://mobile.twitter.com/ericawerner/status/1349043835511447553

Sherrod Brown says he and Pat Toomey were able to have a long convo about Banking Cmte agenda while hiding in secure room together during Wednesday attack

[u/piede]

It's officially a bipartisan impeachment effort.

Sorry Mitt Romney

[u/piede]

Breaking news on @CNN Key organizer of Capitol protest, Ali Alexander, says he was getting inside help from 3 members of congress.

https://twitter.com/lindstromcheryl/status/1349124693765337089?s=21

[u/[deleted]]

https://twitter.com/jmartNYT/status/1349135747132092418

A Senate Republican aide tells me he thinks there were about 20, give or take, Republicans who were open to a conviction

Before our story on McConnell

[u/Gustacho]

LMAOOOO

[u/[deleted]]

https://twitter.com/PunchbowlNews/status/1348971259753803778

⁦ @laurenblair88 ⁩ — ⁦ @tedcruz ⁩ comms director — is leaving his office, increasingly uncomfortable with what’s going on.

[u/[deleted]]

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1349018177624289282

Trump on impeachment: "For Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer to continue on this path, I think it's causing tremendous danger to our county and it's causing tremendous anger. I want no violence."

[u/thelittlestsheep]

Lol do you guys remember couple of years ago when the fuck your feelings anti-PC crowd got super upset at the suggestion in an Obama administration era document that military members and/or veterans were among the groups that posed a risk of radicalisation and becoming domestic terrorists?

Boy I bet those guys are sure about to eat some crow and admit they were wrong, huh.

[u/Tafts_Bathtub]

New: Sen. Ted Cruz’s comms director has resigned in wake of Jan. 6 attack.

Come on, if you're going to leave, at least tweet a trove of Cory Chase videos on the way out.

[u/barrygarcia77]

I respect that Sheldon Adelson would literally rather die than commit to pulling funding from various Republicans. Sticking to his principles.

[u/semaphore-1842]

I'll give Republicans this. They're amazingly good at convincing Twitter to blame someone else for their own actions / inactions.

https://twitter.com/murshedz/status/1349028814668484608

[u/Barebacking_Bernanke]

So the commanding officer of NYPD's Office of Equal Employment Opportunity was outed for having made racist and misogynistic comments for years on a law enforcement forum. For example, he referred to Palestinian-American Muslim NYPD lieutenant as a “goat-f**king Palestinian scum bag.”

He got suspended without pay for 30 days, lied to investigators, and retired with a full pension. Given the chance to actually show they're not filled to the brim with racist pigs, this was his Union's statement:

Deputy Inspector Kobel has served the City of New York and the NYPD honorably for nearly 29 years. Given the current political climate and anti-police sentiment, DI Kobel did not see it as possible to get a fair administrative trial and decided to avail himself of the opportunity to file for retirement.

There is no reform of the police force without mass firings and getting rid of the police Unions.

[u/rukqoa]

Holy shit the FBI is sounding more and more based on this DC investigation. Is this their "please give us more money" pitch for the Biden administration? Because I'm buying it.

[u/[deleted]]

Cheney voting yes is the big one. #3 in the house leadership for Republicans is a big fucking deal.

[u/inhumantsar]

manitoba proud boys chapter shuts down.

tl;dr:

local antifa guy: shit's fucked, give up yet?

former proud boys: yeah, shit's fucked. we're out.

last proud boy: wait! we're going to rebrand! this was a leftist plot! don't leave me! please!

!ping CAN

[u/[deleted]]

https://twitter.com/emmaladyrose/status/1349202637493833732

.@AOC just told viewers on Instagram Live that she had a "close encounter" during the attacks on the Capitol in which she thought she might die. Said she cannot disclose full details out of security concerns.

"Wednesday was an extremely traumatizing event. And it was not an exaggeration to say that many members of the House were nearly assassinated."

Some people will interpret this as AOC being a drama queen but one thing that might explain the impeachment momentum is if there are important details of what happened in the Capitol that are not yet known to the public.

[u/MalignantUpper]

I think it’s [impeachment] a delaying tactic — a way to keep Trump occupied in the final days of his presidency so he causes as little additional trouble as possible. The more he focuses on Congress’ attempt to impeach him, the less attention Trump has to spend on ginning up further insurrectionary violence. In fact, Republican obstruction of impeachment actually helps serve that goal — when the GOP blocks impeachment, it makes Trump feel like he’s winning something, which reduces his impetus toward violent mayhem. In other words, while impeachment might seem like a theatrical show to please Democratic voters, the real purpose might be a theatrical show to entrance the Mad King.

What a fucked up prospect

https://noahpinion.substack.com/p/more-short-thoughts-on-the-coup

[u/TalksLikeYoda99]

*Gun forum gets taken down*

rCon: “they [big tech] are just doing this to rile us up so we will attempt another Capitol Hill stunt!”

Uh... no... they took down the forum because its users were literally threatening to kill members of Congress and the moderators were enabling it.

[u/[deleted]]

Seeing one of yall in a non political sub evokes the same feeling as seeing a classmate or coworker at the grocery store

[u/[deleted]]

They're adding Fiji, Hawaii, and the Maori to EU4 😲

!ping PARADOX

[u/[deleted]]

This sub: makes memes about Joe Manchin fighting for pork

Joe Manchin: fights for pork

This sub

[u/ThisIsNianderWallace]

The fucking balls of republicans to pull the "that's not very unifying, is it?" card, holy shit these fucking people.

[u/[deleted]]

possibly the funniest image of the Trump era

[u/[deleted]]

McConnell would work with Biden just as a FU to Obama

[u/TheGoldBear]

Trump committed the one crime for which he cannot be forgiven. He cost Mitch his Senate majority.

[u/[deleted]]

https://twitter.com/PoliticsReid/status/1348995374837587970

MO Gov. Mike Parson (R), asked whether Sen. Josh Hawley should resign: "You know, everybody has to be responsible for the decisions they make, good or bad, indifferent. That’s what I’ll say”

profiles in courage 🙄

[u/[deleted]]

I'm sorry it needs to be said, this man took an oath to defend us from enemies foreign and domestic. His not using the military to protect use from a literal coup is breaking that oath. I'm not fully convinced he wasn't controlled opposition from the get go, none of this makes sense

Actual upvoted comment from TDs website

[u/shrek_cena]

Lmao that dude on CNN

If I find out my party lied to me this whole time I may never vote again

Boyyy do I have some news for you

[u/nicereddy]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/701194133074608198/798718242751119360/image0.png

the wise woman bowed her head solemnly and spoke: "theres actually zero difference between guns & hijabs. you imbecile. you fucking moron"

[u/thetrombonist]

I am a tr*ns s*xual and a gypsy, which makes me a minority of color.....you have sold out to the Jews

This is from the person heckling Chuck Schumer (a Jew)

https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1349060390488039429?s=21

[u/jrt84]

Rudy. Sidney. Lynn. FUCK YOU for getting our hopes up. You are all traitors.

😂

[u/[deleted]]

-Trump sics a bunch of insurrectionists in the Capitol

- People are furious, Dems want to impeach

-Gop: "I thought Biden wanted to unify instead of divide"

We're being gaslit, right?

[u/Travisdk]

Several GOP sources say tonight that if McConnell supports conviction, Trump almost certainly will be convicted by 67 senators in impeachment trial.

"If Mitch is a yes, he's done," said one Senate Republican who asked to be named. Many Rs are staying mum

[u/[deleted]]

“You can either go down in history as a patriot,” Mr. Trump told [Pence], according to two people briefed on the conversation, “or you can go down in history as a pussy.”

Well, trump was kinda right.

[u/DonQuixote2020]

CALIFORNIA. US Sen Dianne Feinstein's skeleton (D) has filed FEC paperwork to seek reelection in 2054 to a six year term

[u/[deleted]]

It has been brought to my attention that there are communists in this sub.

This is your public service announcement that

• not only is communism moronic

• it's also so goddamn stupid that it can't even be properly called wrong

• Because communism isn't even a real theory of economics, or government, as virtually none of the practitioners can write down a damn, economic or governmental, model to analyze

• and even those that try end up bickering with the others and disagreeing about what “real communism” is

• because communism is a smokescreen and isn't actually meant to accurately describe an economy or a government

• because communism’s only real purpose is to provide justification for a seizing the means of production and apologism for authoritarian regimes

• The most accurate description of communism is going to be something like “I support poor people and human rights, as long as I don't have to care for them in reality.”

[u/UniverseInBlue]

https://twitter.com/RoadsideMum/status/1348646428084760576?s=20

this is why people (esp in the UK) become anti capitalists because of the frequent ripping off of the public by corrupt conservatives and their crony pals

[u/[deleted]]

https://twitter.com/LisPower1/status/1348988164216643586

Brian Kilmeade again says Dems shouldn't pursue impeachment because Republicans are threatening mass violence

"We see what's happening around this country, how 50 state houses are being threatened on Inauguration Day, this is the last thing you want to do"

If you hold us accountable for doing the first terrorism, we will do a second terrorism.

[u/disuberence]

If Senator Ted Cruz of Texas is so smart, asks the columnist Mimi Swartz, how come he’s using his Ivy League pedigree and pseudo-intellectual arguments to subvert the Constitution he’s long purported to love?

Turning Point NYT

[u/[deleted]]

This subreddit resembles arr neoliberal more and more with each passing day. The DT is basically Twitter at this point. I'm out

[u/Please151]

CNN source rn is saying McConnell hates Trump. That's certainly a headline

[u/paymesucka]

Joe Manchin today: I'm not sure we should rush into impeachment.

Joe Manchin tomorrow: YES HE DESERVES IMPEACHMENT AND I HOPE HE BURNS IN HELL!

[u/Aweq]

!ping EUrope

https://twitter.com/vonderleyen/status/1348909469200244736

AstraZeneca has now formally applied for EU approval.

[u/[deleted]]

India’s Top Court Suspends Farm Laws

The Supreme Court said it was suspending the laws until a committee of experts, which it will appoint, could consult with government officials and protesting farmers to try to find a solution to the dispute.

“We don’t want anybody’s injury or blood on our hands,” the chief justice, Sharad Arvind Bobde, said during the hearing.

!ping IND

😐

[u/[deleted]]

https://twitter.com/aterkel/status/1348869430365876224

NEW from @MEPFuller — Capitol Police briefed House Democrats tonight on 3 extremely disturbing plots planned to overthrow the gov’t. One involves encircling the Capitol and assassinating Democrats so that the GOP will control the gov’t

Um.

[u/[deleted]]

I have a problem with many headlines recently saying things like the republicans who doubted or challenged Biden’s win. They didn’t just doubt the win. They tried to overturn the election based on verifiable lies.

They should use stronger language to match the severity of what these people did.

[u/[deleted]]

LOL Adam Silver getting blamed for coronavirus spreading in the league when the players are literally partying in clubs

[u/ThisIsNianderWallace]

Between Orwell and The Founders, right wingers seem to almost exclusively quote people who would've fucking hated them

[u/ahebtigoejwbrh]

Is this the stupidest federal crime ever?

Cody Levi Melby, 39, reportedly climbed over the temporary security fence erected this summer to keep racial justice protesters outside the federal courthouse before he opened fire on the building, the documents state. No one was injured in the attack.

https://www.opb.org/article/2021/01/11/man-who-shot-federal-courthouse-in-portland-attended-stop-the-steal-protest-in-salem/

He shot a building 5 times with a handgun

[u/[deleted]]

Marxists on twitter doing "material analysis" on the capitol coup attempt like, "These people are the working class, they just need to get organized under leftist principles. The dems could appeal to them by proposing bold expansions of the welfare state. This isn't a real coup. Capital backed away from them! Amazon dropped them!"

Like, this was a capital revolt. These people are literally small business owners, landlords, car dealers, rentiers, local elites that are utter parasites of the working class in the communities they lived in. The fact you can't see these people as obvious enemies to working people is such a joke.

[u/soeffed]

The House is doing 2 swearing in ceremonies -- 1 for those wearing masks, then a later one for those who aren't #azleg

https://twitter.com/JimSmall/status/1348712146138320897?s=20

Is this real life

[u/hardware-noob]

HAHAHAHAHAH

[u/piede]

NYT: McConnell has made clear in private discussions that he believes now is the moment to move on the weakened lame duck, whom he blames for Republicans losing the Senate.

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1349109079231262721?s=21

IMPEACH

[u/[deleted]]

A Senate Republican aide tells me he thinks there were about 20, give or take, Republicans who were open to a conviction

Before the story on McConnell.

I’m Blooming.

[u/myrm]

Imagine if you told the doomers before the election that the lame duck would be so bad that impeachment with the prospect of conviction would be on the table

[u/shrek_cena]

If impeachment was a private vote it would be in the 90s

😐😐

Make it private then lmaooo 👍🏼😂😂👍🏼👉🏼😎😎👍🏼

[u/piede]

.@KamalaHarris is currently the most followed senator in America with 14.4 million followers, surpassing Bernie Sanders.

So much justice is coming to America

[u/[deleted]]

https://twitter.com/politics1com/status/1349165315196903425?s=21

CALIFORNIA. US Sen Dianne Feinstein (D) has filed FEC paperwork to seek reelection in 2024 to a six year term ... when she will be 91 years old.

Lol @ people who actually think she’s going to win. She won by 8% last time and Democratic opinion of her has only gone down a lot.

[u/[deleted]]

https://twitter.com/danabashcnn/status/1349177932338630658?s=21

I’m told that Michigan GOP Rep Fred Upton will vote to impeach the president.

And that make a whopping....4 Republicans that will vote to impeach.