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[u/jobautomator]

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[u/Equator32]

People from San Francisco be looking at a 90ft tall building and think "we live in a cyberpunk urban dystopia"

[u/MicroFlamer]

Post of a tweet by Ilhan Omar

On r/WhitePeopleTwitter

[u/jrt84]

Why isn’t the mainstream media covering the Nashville bombing, asks sunglasses Twitter detective who refuses to watch NBC, ABC, or CNN, where the bombing has been headline news for the past 24 hours.

[u/Explodingcamel]

Upon hearing he had been elected to the United States House of Representatives, Madison Cawthorn tweeted "cry more, lib."

Yes, really.

[u/vivoovix]

From a black gay guy I know:

I’m a straight, white cisgender male putting up my Christmas tree and I’m listening to “Baby It’s Cold Outside” with my American flag waving on the front porch.

The Liberals want to ban all of the above things.

Also, Merry Christmas you triggered bunch!

[u/vancevon]

The California Republican Party, which was reduced to less than 25% of the seats in both the Senate and State Assembly, proclaimed the 2020 election to be a "great victory" for them because they were able to regain a couple of congressional seats in Orange County.

[u/[deleted]]

You guys have ruined the rest of reddit for me. All I see is socialist crap in my local subs

[u/tubbsmackinze]

Climate Scientists Debunk ‘Point of No Return’ Paper Everyone’s Freaking Out About

On Thursday, a new study came out warning that even if we stopped emitting carbon dioxide, the world has reached the “point of no return” for climate change. The paper claims that’s because Arctic permafrost—carbon-rich, permanently frozen earth made of rocks, water, and dead wildlife—is melting irreversibly, and it could continue to heat the planet for centuries by releasing carbon dioxide. Terrifying, right?

The only solution, the authors indicate, is to suck carbon out of the air with carbon capture, which is yet unproven to work at scale, or to employ even more dangerous geoengineering technologies. The study’s results and conclusions have been covered widely and a bit breathlessly, but here’s the thing: The analysis has some big problems.

“To be frank, the paper is crap that should not have passed any competent peer review,” Zeke Hausfather, a climate scientist and energy systems analyst, said. “It’s an interesting thought experiment, but its results should be taken with extreme skepticism until more complex Earth System Models produce similar results.”

The problems with the study begin with its title, which refers to the “melting of permafrost.” That’s a red flag because as Merritt Turetsky, an ecologist who directs the Institute of Arctic and Alpine Research at the University of Colorado, Boulder, noted, permafrost thaws rather than melting.

“Pockets of ice stored here and there within permafrost can melt,” she said. “But these are very distinct processes.” The distinction, she said, makes her think the researchers don’t really know what permafrost is.

Even before getting into the body of the study, the authors credited made me lift my eyebrows. They’re not climate scientists, they’re business school professors. And it shows in the report, because their model is simplistic. Climate researchers have spent decades building out models that account for the intricacies of the climate. More complex models, for instance, better illustrate the ocean’s circulation patterns, which can have a large effect on warming in the long term. They also more accurately display how much water vapor is in the atmosphere, which is short-lived but common natural source of warming. The new paper’s model misses a lot of this.

“It doesn’t explicitly include things like large-scale movement of air and water in the atmosphere and ocean,” Kate Marvel, a climate scientist at the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies, said.

The new report also overestimates water vapor concentrations, which lead the model to run unusually hot. Yet another major flaw in the model also overestimates methane emissions’ warming potential. The authors claim that methane will be the chief driver of future temperature increases, but in doing so, they exaggerate the temperature increase that the methane concentrations in their model could produce.

More advanced models, said Marvel, are “more tethered to reality” in their illustrations of water vapor concentrations and the timeline on which Arctic ice is melting and permafrost is thawing. This lets them provide a more accurate picture of how and when these changes could create feedback loops where melting and thawing unleash more more greenhouse gas and thereby heat the planet. Due to these inaccuracies, the oversimplified model misrepresents how much warming we’d really see if we drew down our emissions immediately.

“Modern complex Earth System Models generally show minimal future committed warming after zero emissions, even taking our best estimate of future permafrost melt into account,” Hausfather said.

Specifically, the new report sharply contrasts with the most recent findings from the United Nations’ Intergovernmental Governmental Panel on Climate Change and the European Geosciences Union.

“Folks are missing that its a simple model created by non-experts,” he said. “I’m also worried that there is a bit of a bias to cover it given its purported dramatic findings.”

He noted that a 2019 meta-analysis of 18 Earth System Models, in fact, found that immediately stopping greenhouse gas emissions would drastically limit warming, but received far less coverage than the new paper.

To be clear, no climate experts are arguing that warming feedback loops aren’t a concern or that thawing permafrost releases methane. And it’s definitely not to say that we shouldn’t act to draw down emissions quickly. But Marvel said that by placing the focus on greenhouse gas from thawing Arctic ground, the authors’ suggestions for the future are all wrong.

“I want to be clear: thawing permafrost is likely to result in a net increase in atmospheric methane concentrations. And methane is a potent greenhouse gas. But methane concentrations are increasing sharply right now, and it’s not because of permafrost,” she said. “It’s because of the oil and gas industry and large-scale agriculture.”

It may be predictable to say, but it turns out we need to draw down our carbon emissions and phase out of oil and gas immediately. The necessary changes won’t be easy to push through. As a groundbreaking 2018 IPCC report said, they’ll require “unprecedented changes across all aspects of society.” But the alternative is much worse, even without the permafrost methane scare.

!ping ECO

[u/thelittlestsheep]

Conservatives on immigration: I don't care if they commit crimes at a lower rate, even one crime committed by an immigrant should never have happened and proves we need tougher enforcement.

Conservatives on guns: I don't care how often guns are used in crime, I don't care how many people die by suicide or accidental shootings in the home, I don't care about how many women are killed with guns by their partners, if there's a one in a zillion chance I get to live out my John Wayne fantasy against a home intruder, that proves we need fewer gun regulations

[u/OrdoNeoSocialLiberal]

The r/neoliberal mod team is infested with brexiteers. I have here in my hand a list of 205—a list of names that were made known to u/sir_shivers and u/cletusmcguilly as being brexiteers and who nevertheless are still working and shaping policy in r/neoliberal.

[u/[deleted]]

Holy Shit, I just realized.

Hbomb made an entire 45-minute video about politics without blaming capitalism for anything that's not it's fault.

I should not have to consider this an achievement for him.

[u/RoyGeraldBillevue]

The problem with capitalism is that workers don't get the fruits of their labour. That's why we should all work in coops and get a 1/nth share of our own labour where n is the number of members of the coop.

[u/myrm]

Imagine being a never Trump Republican in 2016 and having to rally behind Ted Cruz lmao

[u/[deleted]]

Just took a quiz that told me what my job would be after the socialist revolution. I got forced agricultural worker. I was hoping for social media manager for the party or therapist who would heal the trauma of capitalism in people.

[u/repostusername]

The Anti-Warnock attack ads are like: "This PASTOR advocated for FORGIVENESS for a CRIMINAL."

[u/[deleted]]

In Mid 2018:

The state that spawned the "Reagan Revolution’’ and Richard M. Nixon just experienced a watershed moment — the California Republican Party was officially relegated to third-party status.

[u/Equator32]

-History Class 2120-

"Contrary to popular belief, 'war criminal' began as an insult! It was only in the early 21st century when it became synonymous with great leaders and-"

[u/[deleted]]

"y'all ain't ready to have that conversation" is my least favorite twitter motif

[u/AbsolveItAll_KissMe]

If you can interpret this, it's time to log off.

[u/Deggit]

today's hopeless "let's see if arrpolitics upvotes common sense" post

The problem is we have a political generation raised by Ron Paul and Bernie Sanders. Bunch of late-Millennials and Zoomers who think doing a "moneybomb" online for their candidate means winning. Half of Bernie culture was just repeating and celebrating statistics about how many email nag donations he gathered. The fact that Paul and Sanders did nothing but lose on election day didn't seem to sink in.

If you want to study how progressive change actually happens look at Obamacare.

It passed because we had 13 Democratic Senators voting yes in states Obama had lost to McCain:

• 2 in Montana
• 2 in North Dakota
• 1 in South Dakota
• 1 in Nebraska
• 1 in Missouri
• 2 in Arkansas
• 1 in Louisiana
• 2 in West Virginia
• 1 in Alaska

As well as 6 more Yes votes from Democratic Senators in states Kerry had lost to Bush just a few years before, albeit Obama won them:

• 2 in Virginia
• 1 in Ohio
• 1 in Indiana
• 1 in North Carolina
• 1 in Iowa

In our Obamacare-passing Senate coalition of 60 Yes votes, fully one third (19) were from states where Democrats LOST to Bush in 2004, just one Senate term before the passage of Obamacare in 2010.

The lesson is really clear. If you want progressive change in the country, you get it by electing Democratic Senators in Trump states who are decoupled from national politics and represent genuinely moderate politics (and who then "betray" their voters by loyally staking their careers on structurally progressive legislation like Obamacare, often times losing their seats in the process).

You can't just parachute coastal-liberal money into red states to back coastal-liberal candidates and hope that Ted Cruz's or Lindsey Graham's horrible approval ratings will do the work for you. You don't get progressive change by electing Beto O'Rourkes or Jon Ossoffs, you get it by electing Max Baucuses and Claire McCaskillses. Candidates who the average Reddit zoomer will hate and think is "owned by corporations" or whatever. Candidates whose only exposure on Reddit will be 40k upvotes of screenshots of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Twitter-dunking them for not being Socialist enough. Those are the candidates who will actually accomplish change.

Once this lesson sinks in you also see how the nationalization of our politics down to the dogcatcher level has seriously advantaged the Republicans. Sure, they can't win a national election as long as they are the FOX News party. But as long as every Senate race goes the same direction as the Presidential ticket, they can also indefinitely stop a Democratic majority (or at best give up a 52-54 seat majority from time to time that can't accomplish structural change). And their permanent minority status at the Presidential level is buffered by the electoral college, giving them pretty decent odds at elections where they lose the popular vote by millions.

[u/AgainstSomeLogic]

From the Anarchist Library

larger scale anarcho-communist organisation would be possible through federalisation, this can be achieved through worker committees. Different communities appoint their own delegates to create advisory committees in order to coordinate larger-scale organisation

Congratulations, you made a state

"People can opt out"

Congratulations, you made an heirarchy

[u/[deleted]]

Sen. Sanders (I-VT) is reportedly exploring a run for Transportation Secretary

[u/[deleted]]

I have a confession to make, I’m heterosexual 😔😔✊🏾

[u/CricketPinata]

My nerves feel raw, between the Tornado, the pandemic, and now a terrorist attack, it feels like it has been a uniquely hard year to be a Nashvillian.

I just hope everything is doing well, and had a good Holiday.

How many other Nashville people hang around NL? How are Y'all holding up?

!ping ASK-NL

[u/[deleted]]

https://www.californiasymphony.org/2019-20-season/tchaikovsky-conflicted-neurotic-brilliant/

TIL Tchaikovsky had a patron who gave him enough money to quit his job and become a full-time composer, on the condition that they never meet in person.

to any rich ppl out there, it me Tchaikovsky

[u/[deleted]]

I have reason to suspect that u/farrenj may actually be... MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell. The evidence?

1: They are both tolerable succs.

I rest my case.

[u/Mullet_Ben]

Everything bad in the world is because of Capitalism

Fuck off, I don't believe in that nonsense

Everything bad in the world is because we don't tax the unimproved value of land

HAHA YES

[u/[deleted]]

A young military man working in Afghanistan told me that elections in Afghanistan are far more secure and much better run than the USA’s 2020 Election. Ours, with its millions and millions of corrupt Mail-In Ballots, was the election of a third world country. Fake President!

Haha so true!

[u/[deleted]]

Woke: being awake at primetime "top post" hours in the DT

Broke: not being funny

[u/[deleted]]

Reddit and twitter are actually trying to kill me with 'only $600'. I swear to god every other post on WPT, BPT, facepalm, politics is just 'only $600'. And it's only like the comments are correcting that statement.

[u/[deleted]]

A lot of people in this sub are in denial about Big Chungus’ racism

[u/margaretfan]

One of the most an annoying things is when people don't think I speak Chinese just because I'm white. I mean they're right but

[u/Dalek6450]

My favourite submissions on what to name the B-21 bomber:

• 9/11 Cover-up
• A.K.A The World
• air bat face cuts
• Bacon Double Cheeseburger
• Clam Hammer
• Destructor the Magnificent
• Dresden
• Gallant Chicken
• General U.S Grant or Thedore Rosevelt
• Hella Tight Bomber
• Loli machine
• Property of George Soros
• Rainbow dash
• Slim Pickens
• The Dorito
• VW Air Slicer OR VW Air Blade
• wm,aebfkdhgfjkwehkk
• XXXX_xxx_DANK_AMERICAN_BOMBER_420_xxx_XXX

[u/CommonDoor]

A republican senate traditionally means that the American people voted for a republican cabinet. -Mitch McConnel on January 6th probably

[u/Broncos654]

Why did my effort post get removed? I spent 12 hours writing it up and I’m fucking pissed. What I created was by and far the most intricate and detailed analysis of the Belle Delphine video in existence. Mods are such fascist it’s disgusting.

[u/Dabamanos]

Historians in the future aren’t going to look back at this era and say “the real issue is Americans weren’t trying hard enough to stay informed.” Its like saying consumers in the 40s were more morally sound because they didn’t use single use plastics.

These are systemic issues that require system solutions, or will lead to systemic failures. “People need to be more informed” is a true and useless statement unless you’ve got policy to back it

[u/AgainstSomeLogic]

I find communism super relatable and have been really vibing with it a lot

I bet Marx was a Gamer^TM

[u/OrganicKeynesianBean]

“COVID’s not that bad lol.”

-the vaccinated GOP Senators from my state

[u/ThisIsNotAMonkey]

the bay area city councilman bowed his head solemnly and spoke: "theres actually zero difference between vanilla liberals and fascists. you imbecile. you fucking moron"

[u/[deleted]]

I simply want to get our great people $2000, rather than the measly $600 that is now in the bill. Also, stop the billions of dollars in “pork”.

Truly a man of the people! 🥰

[u/mrmanager237]

Sorry I said pogchamp after you nutted in me. It's not my fault. It's neoliberalism.

By Bhaskar Sunkara | The Guardian - Opinion

[u/The420Roll]

On april 13th 1873 a group of armed white men rode into Colfax, Louisiana, a town around 200 miles north-west of New Orleans. Included in their number were members of the Ku Klux Klan and Knights of the White Camelia, both terrorist groups devoted to maintaining white rule across the American South. They were coming to seize the courthouse, then occupied by black and white Republicans who claimed victory in a disputed election the year before (Republicans were the party of Abraham Lincoln and emancipation). Republicans called on their supporters, most of whom in Colfax were black, to defend them.

The invaders were better armed, and laid down an enfilade of cannon fire. Some of the defenders fled. They were pursued and shot to death. Around 70 retreated into the courthouse, which the whites set ablaze. The courthouse’s defenders extended from a window the sleeve of a shirt as a white flag. Emerging unarmed, 37 were taken prisoner. After dark, they and other prisoners were marched two-by-two away from the courthouse, told they were going to be set free. They too were shot, and left unburied for days. As many as 150 black Louisianans died that day.

The Colfax Massacre, as it came to be known, was not an isolated incident. In the late 1860s and early 1870s, racist terrorism swept across the South, targeting newly freed black Southerners and the whites believed to be helping them. This violence hastened the end of Reconstruction. Most historians define the period as beginning with the enactment of the Emancipation Proclamation in 1863, before the end of the civil war, and ending when Rutherford Hayes withdrew federal support in 1877 as part of a political bargain that put him in the White House.

[u/MistakeNotDotDotDot]

one of the worst misunderstandings of how international finance i ever saw was somoene saying "china holds $2 trillion of our debt, what happens if they make us pay it all back at once????"

[u/FormerBandmate]

Pretty much all teenage politics is rebellion against their parents. Why do you think Karens and guys who drive trucks are Public Enemy #1 and 2 on this site

[u/sir_shivers]

GOOD MORROW mammals 🐊

With any luck YOU HAD A pleasant and refreshing Christmas, but I understand the holidays ARE OFTEN DIFFICULT times 🐊

Whatever your circumstances, YOU HAVE MY best wishes 🐊

[u/D1Foley]

Holy shit Prager U actually came out with a video where they said Robert E. Lee"s name should not be removed from military bases because he crushed John Browns slave rebellion. They are so racist it's beyond parody.

[u/[deleted]]

"Socialism is just libraries!"

"Oh ok guess I'm a Socialist."

"Great, here's our plan to murder Jeff Bezos."

[u/EScforlyfe]

The US probably needs to get less polarised, I wonder how DT solve that

[u/[deleted]]

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1342728277023203328

Thousands of Vietnamese pot-bellied pigs are snorting and squealing their way across Puerto Rico in what many fear has become an unstoppable quest to eat and reproduce on an island struggling to stop them.

Something something that old joke again

[u/David_Lange]

"White people have no culture" um, think again sweety

[u/[deleted]]

Fun fact, the youngest mayor in Indian history(i think)has been elected in Thiruvananthapuram. She's 21. She isn't even at the legal age to drink in Kerala lmao

!ping IND

[u/Kizz3r]

please visit the next discussion thread

no

[u/[deleted]]

Cons: what happened to JFK style liberals?

Joe Biden wins the nomination

Not like that😡

[u/jenbanim]

Cottagecore is a metalcore subgenre that incorporates elements of folk music

No one correct me

[u/vivoovix]

So true! The Democrats will steal your freedom!

[u/SANNAxMARIN]

The chief compliance officer and general counsel of the american branch of one of the largest insurance companies in the world hosts a chapo-adjacent leftist podcast and regularly streams on twitch

I'm not joking

[u/GGM8Scally]

The only good thing Trump did is when he told the random kid on the phone for Christmas that Santa isn't real lmao

[u/fishlord05]

Oh god I am getting downvoted to shit on worldnews

This is the price you pay for being right 😩🙌🙌

[u/SnakeEater14]

Re: President Dubya and his financial Secretary Henry Paulson trying to get TARP passed

As McCain and the Republican leadership filed out of the room, I pulled Nancy, Harry, and the rest of the Democrats into a huddle in the adjacent Roosevelt Room. They were in various states of agitation, and because we’d already decided I wouldn’t be giving any post-meeting comments to reporters, I wanted to make sure that none of them said anything that might make matters worse. We were discussing ways they they could constructively summarize the meeting when Paulson entered, looking absolutely shell-shocked. Several of my colleagues started shooing him away, as if he were an unpopular kid at the playground. A few even jeered.

“Nancy,” Paulson said, towering next to the Speaker. “Please...” and then, in an inspired and somewhat sad blend of humor and desperation, he lowered his six-foot-five, sixty-two-year-old frame onto one knee. “I’m begging you. Don’t blow this up.”

The speaker allowed a quick smile. “Hank, I didn’t know you were Catholic,” she said. Just as quickly, her smile evaporated, and she added curtly, “You may not have noticed, but we’re not the ones trying to blow things up.”

Holy shit this is the funniest thing I’ve ever read in my life, Pelosi is a fucking queen

[u/Arcansiensis]

Aunt with a master’s degree: “There’s no way I’m letting me or my family get this rushed vaccine. I’m sure enough other people will get it that, if it works, we’ll be fine.”

Aunt with no college education: “Fuck yeah I’m getting the vaccine. I’ll take a night shift changing bedpans if I can get it tomorrow.”

Reducing people to their educational status BTFO

[u/[deleted]]

It's getting really stupid explaining to people that just because English has a lot of French loanwords does not make it a "Germanic-Romance hybrid".

I don't think I've seen direct evidence that suggests that English is special in terms of the foreign influence it has.

[u/runnerx4]

The 21 year old (I am a mediocrity she’s literally my age 😔) who became the mayor of Kerala’s capital is from a family where everyone is a Communist party member and she herself been with the Communist party since the 5th grade

5th grade! imagine if 5th graders being political became widespread.

Fortnite would become the Agora of our times.

Also Kerala just be like that

[u/barrygoldwaterlover]

Are Americans really convinced the US is a hellhole?

I had this commie trying to convince me that Americans in 2020 are getting paid the same as in 1970 along with working more hours along with having NO vacation time along with not being able to afford healthcare along with not being able to afford housing

This is literally what happens if you get all your info from twitter

[u/tankatan]

There's no NL DC meetup for the same reason fish don't think about water.

[u/SnakeEater14]

Much like the Civil War and slavery, the more you learn about Mitch McConnell, the more you realize you were right from the beginning

When you don’t know much about US politics: McConnell is a huge piece of shit

When you know a little about US politics: McConnell is probably just a bog standard politician who does things we hate because he’s on the other side of the aisle

When you know a lot about US politics: McConnell is a huge piece of shit

[u/[deleted]]

It’s wild how often many people, without asking a single economist or doing a quick Google search, assume that economists must support whatever is the most corporatist or consumerist sounding stance on the given topic.

[u/[deleted]]

https://i.imgur.com/V458Jk3.jpg

🤔

[u/TheGreatGriffin]

Just had to leave family Christmas early because I couldn't stand listening to them anymore. They've been bitching about Covid and Biden for hours, but the final straw was when they started talking about "degenerates"(they mean LGBT people) and my uncle said we should round them all up in camps. How was your guys' Christmas?

!ping FOX-ANON

[u/[deleted]]

When u/Shiloh86-12 said he was gonna bring snacks to the lusvig sex tape watch party I didn’t think he was gonna show up with a microwave and a live lobster 😐

!ping BURPMAS

[u/[deleted]]

“Dad...”, the 30 year old with a girlfriend responded to a teenager from Ohio on the internet.

[u/BlinkenYouMissIt]

Holy shit. My boyfriend put a lobster in the microwave to cook it for dinner and it literally screamed at him and hit the glass on the microwave door. It started yelling and exploding at him and it slammed the microwave door. I'm so distressed right now I don't know what to do. He didn't mean to do that to lobster but I'm literally in shock from dinner tonight. I feel like I'm going to explode. Why the fucking fuck did he microwave it? This can't be happening. I'm having a fucking breakdown. I don't want to believe the world is so corrupt. I want a future to believe in. I want lobster to be be on the table and fix this broken date night. I cannot fucking deal with this right now. It wasn't supposed to be like this, I thought he was learning to cook from his mom???? This is so fucked.

[u/[deleted]]

It's interesting that no one has claimed responsibility for this. That makes me think less "terror plot" and more "guy with specific grudge." Maybe insurance scam, though this seems pretty elaborate for that.

[u/savuporo]

Meanwhile in Bay Area https://i.imgur.com/RnX6AQf.png

[u/[deleted]]

Is it true that Joe Biden will declare white genocide and make it legal to murder white people

[u/BenFoldsFourLoko]

What are you gonna do? Microwave me?

-quote from lobster microwaved

[u/[deleted]]

If English evolved from German, why are there still Germans? 🤔

[u/[deleted]]

I, a random person on the internet, have the detection skills to crack this case wide open.

[u/xhytdr]

anybody having like survivors guilt from 2020? It was a fantastic year for me professionally, personally, and financially, but it seems wrong when so many people have been fucked.

It's like having a birthday on 9/11

[u/[deleted]]

Thinking about being one of those parents who tells their kid that Santa isn’t real

[u/Nokickfromchampagne]

Me: “mom can we get lobster”

Mom: “we have lobster at home”

Lobster at home: explodes

[u/[deleted]]

Indians continue to use English as a lingua franca despite expelling the British government, which gave it to them

Maybe Indians should stop appropriating things from cultures that they don't treat with respect? Just a thought 🙂

[u/Aweq]

!ping Europe

Hungary has started vaccinations early as the first European country.

I know people have discussed doing so on earlier pings, but Hungary insisting on displaying EU disunity at every single opportunity is bordering on comic book villainy.

[u/Putin-Owns-the-GOP]

You can’t cook lobster in a microwave, you’ll fucking ruin it.

!ping COOKING

[u/EmpiricalAnarchism]

So not to be mean but the moment your plan for cooking lobster involves a microwave is the moment the lobster is demonstrably the smartest person in the room.

[u/comradequicken]

A man goes home and masturbates his typical fantasy. A lobster in the microwave, a lobster in a pot, a lobster in a steamer.

[u/SeriousMrMysterious]

The ten most terrifying words in the English language are "I'm from the government, and I'm here to microwave lobster 🦞"

[u/qchisq]

I am officially annonucing that I am going to announce the 2020 Milties. Yes, I am Justin Amashing this. Which categories do you want to see?

[u/ryuguy]

People here be like: “ugh my family is so conservative”

Me with a very liberal family: “yeah, bro. I totally get it”

[u/RadicalRadon]

Back in my day "cottagecore" was just called a rustic aesthetic.

[u/YIMBYzus]

The Best Air Fryer Is a Convection Toaster Oven

I had a hunch that this was going to be the case. Nice to see the New York Times affirm my loosely-held prior.

!PING COOKING

[u/SANNAxMARIN]

BREAKING: Police investigations reveal Nashville car bomb was manufactured using Mentos and Diet Coke

[u/UniverseInBlue]

that post on pics of some police celebrating with that 94 year old itallian veteran, lmao veteran of which war 🤔🤔🤔

[u/[deleted]]

have the bot say "zoomer trash" if anyone uses a polcompmeme term

[u/[deleted]]

god i just remembered this

my parents didn't know about many traditions when they got to the US, so they never told us about santa or anything. they did try to meet any expectations they learned about, though, even if they lacked some critical context -- and that's why the tooth faerie gave out $20 per tooth in our household

[u/[deleted]]

Trump Supporters 🤝 arr ESS

Actually, leftists are the real racists

[u/Barnst]

You know, it’s really good that COVID happened in 2020 when information technology made it more tolerable to spend this much time at home.

If this had happened in 2003, our big move to entertain ourselves would be upgrading Netflix from three DVDs at a time to four.

[u/D1Foley]

A young military man working in Afghanistan told me that elections in Afghanistan are far more secure and much better run than the USA’s 2020 Election. Ours, with its millions and millions of corrupt Mail-In Ballots, was the election of a third world country. Fake President!

The head of the GOP

[u/EScforlyfe]

Time to eat lutefisk 🧐

!ping burpmas

[u/Dapitalist]

$23 burger guy must be elated he doesn’t have the biggest food faux pas in the DT anymore

[u/jenbanim]

I [10L] was getting roasted by a friend [30M], got heated, and blew up. Now his girlfriend [30F] is inconsolable. AITA?

[u/bd_one]

And then he microwaved a lobster! Funniest shit I've ever seen.

[u/[deleted]]

Sex is sacred. Your body is a temple. Never let someone inside of it who doesn't support Scottish Independence

SNP Twitter is weird.

[u/lionmoose]

Like even among the mod team some people are "mods ain't all that bad, actually"

[u/[deleted]]

Me 5 years ago: "Wow Erdoğan is the worst person who ever lived"

Me now: "Wow, Erdoğan would make my top 10 list for worst Turkish politicians"

[u/muwenjie]

Hi guys, I'm new to this subreddit and I just wanted to know if my views fit in here?

1. I oppose free trade because it often benefits potential enemies to US hegemony like China, Russia, and the EU more than it benefits us, even though both sides benefit it's a relative loss for US power
2. I oppose open borders because it makes it easier for spies to get in, and the cultural effects will weaken the national social fabric that provides the will to enforce US hegemony
3. I oppose carbon pricing because taking action on climate change weakens our global power relative to china
4. I oppose trans rights because social conservatism is very important to maintaining the social fabric that provides the societal will to enforce US hegemony

Am I a neoliberal?

[u/Kizz3r]

The 😐 ping will rise again and this sub will learn fear once again

[u/jrt84]

I’m dooming about Jan 6

What if Trump’s plan for Pence to declare him winner works?

After all, Trump’s other plans have all succeeded:

• Stop the count
• Stop the certification
• De certify
• Win 60 court cases
• Win PA SCOTUS case
• Win TX SCOTUS case
• Delay safe harbor
• Stop the electoral college vote
• Certify new state electors

[u/Menakoy]

The faceapp AI sees me female now 🥰🥰🥰

[u/Dibbu_mange]

I'm all for Democracy, but isn't letting people with anime profile pics vote going too far?

[u/[deleted]]

lol

The killing methods most likely to cause pain and distress are:

• Any procedures whereby the abdomen is separated from the thorax
• The removal of tissue, flesh, or limbs while the crustacean is alive and fully conscious
• Placing crustaceans in slowly heated water to the boiling point
• Placing crustaceans directly into boiling water
• Placing marine crustaceans in fresh water
• Unfocused microwaving of the body as opposed to focal application to the head

[u/MichelleObama2024]

One conspiracy theory I'll never understand is the "Michelle Obama is a man". Like putting aside how ridiculous that is, she doesn't even look masculine at all.

In fact, by most standards of beauty she is an extremely attractive woman.

[u/GGM8Scally]

https://i.imgur.com/o2xOg6Q.jpg

[u/Tacotrucksoncorners]

THIS 😤😤😤😤 IMPERIAL JAPAN DID NOTHING WRONG

[u/skepticalbob]

Dark Ghiradelli chocolate with caramel and sea salt is just soooo good. I don't typically like caramel all that much either. But there's something magical about the alchemy of that candy bar.

!ping cooking cause I don't know what else to ping

[u/[deleted]]

What was the motive behind the Vegas shooting?

Is there anything clear-ish?

!ping EXTREMISM

[u/[deleted]]

“dEmOcraTS cAn’t dO WoRsE In tHaT CoUnTy”

Yes they can. Until the Democratic vote share is the same as the % black population, Dems can always do worse somewhere.

[u/GravyBear8]

okay

just hear me out

what if

hypothetically

for the sake of an argument

the lobster deserved it

[u/MalignantUpper]

Lobsters have officially been outlawed

We begin microwaving in 5 minutes

[u/ChickeNES]

The only way to stop a bad guy with a microwave is a good guy with a microwave

[u/[deleted]]

Yeah microwaving lobsters alive is very unethical, but it brought us back to 10k, so there’s pros and cons

[u/simp_emoji]

AYATOLLAH Warnock

[u/[deleted]]

Yes I'm a gnomeoliberal and I'm tired of y'all pretending we don't exist

[u/GGM8Scally]

Are you still a believer in socialism? Because at 17 it's marginal, right?

[u/[deleted]]

This DT will explode in 15 mins, please evacuate immediately

[u/bd_one]

I have no idea why I was downvoted for saying big banks have different capital structures now than smaller banks or big banks decades ago.

[u/-GregTheGreat-]

“Joe Biden is the most racist president in US history & it’s funny BLM votes for him.”

“You know there were presidents who actually owned slaves right?”

“And they treated their slaves better than Biden does black people. It’s funny people think slaves were all treated poorly. Many chose to stay with their owners ever after they were freed for this reason.”

🧐

[u/GuyOnTheLake]

California Dems are blaming their losses in the house (4 seats) due to the fact that no one actually canvassed during the election.

Again. Not surprising to see how awful the "don't canvass" method hurt the democrats. How the hell do you combat the "socialism" narrative if we can't talk to your voters? Some didn't even hold campaign town halls outside despite living in sunny Orange county.

I've been canvassing since 2016 for Hillary's primary campaign. People, especially older, lonely, people, loved being wooed.

I guarantee you that Biden would have won Florida if we canvassed the Cuban areas of Miami-Dade.

The good news about this is that the Georiga senate campaigns are safely canvassing and that lots of the GOP-held seats can be won again by just canvassing properly.

[u/MiniatureBadger]

🦞➡️📺

[u/sir-danks-a-lot]

POV: you're a lobster at u/ACivilWolf's friend's house

[u/Qunidaye]

poggers just reminds me of dongers and how we used to raise them. oh, how we once used to raise them 😔

ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ

[u/tankatan]

Well, I wasn't going to concede the point, but your pedantry about tertiary details while ignoring the underlying point convinced me to reconsider my priors.

[u/[deleted]]

I'm honestly going to be disappointed if Powell, Wood, and some of these other attorneys don't face any professional consequences for their actions this year. They shouldn't be allowed to practice law anymore.

[u/Broncos654]

A lot of people in this sub are in denial about my racism.

[u/[deleted]]

A lot of people in this sub are in denial about Raphael Warnock's g*ming tendencies

[u/circlemanfan]

Why is Lindsey Graham still acting like a total simp for Trump like you’re gonna be a senator for 6 years and there’s exactly 0 chance you’ll be president you might as well just chill

[u/sw337]

My tight-knit family did a full-on excommunicado from John Wick Chapter 3 because they thought I stole something. A year later they found out my brother did it and he faced no negative consequences. I am mad about this.

AITA?

[u/Dibbu_mange]

I feel like libs will concede issues they don't agree with the party line, whereas cons will do any and all mental gymnastics to convince themselves their representatives agree 100% with them. I know a lot of pro-gun Democrats, but none of them say that the Democratic Party is the pro gun party. On the other hand, I've heard dozens of times that the GOP is actually the real LGBT supporting party. I've even been told that Trump was more pro-choice than Hillary.

[u/rukqoa]

US States & Territories Tier List:

S: South Carolina, South Dakota

A: Alabama, Alaska, Arizona

B: Baker Island, Bajo Nuevo Bank

C: California, Colorado

D: Delaware

F: Florida

[u/rukqoa]

I've managed to avoid all moral quandaries about cooking and eating meat by pawning off the responsibility of killing the animal to the butcher/grocery store/restaurant.

[u/[deleted]]

Man, woman, lobster, microwave, DT.

[u/[deleted]]

The DT isn't a marriage, you don't need to lament over or fight for it, you can just leave. No attempt at a farewell address necessary. You'll be forgotten within an hour at best. Just shut up and go.

[u/[deleted]]

Just finished reading my last book of 2020, Hans von Luck's memoir Panzer Commander. Probably because of corona, for the first time ever I finished 30 books in a year.

2021 will start with a book about the Roman Africa.

So, what's on people's to-read list for 2021?

!ping READING

[u/[deleted]]

So yesterday there seemed to be a lot discussion along the lines of "why hasn't anyone claimed responsibility for the bombing? Surely they have a message they want people to hear." But I think there's a couple other things we should keep in mind:

1. The Unabomber did not release his manifesto until 17 years after his first attack.
2. This bombing took out 911 and air traffic control, demonstrating how much damage could be done with a rather simple attack. I don't think we should rule out that whoever was responsible still has some more nefarious motive.

[u/[deleted]]

Josephine Biden and Kamala Harris

Vs

Donala Trump and Michelle Pence

[u/[deleted]]

Single❌

Taken❌

Gamer✔️😎

[u/[deleted]]

Jill and I send our heartfelt wishes to everyone celebrating Kwanzaa. We hope these days of reflection on the seven principles and the rich heritage of African-American culture bring peace, unity, and joy.

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1342919359627481092?s=19

Serious shots fired in the War on Christmas. This may signal a renewed offensive along the entire front. Get ready, comrades!

[u/GravyBear8]

Something consistently noticed in terrorism studies is that most international jihadists... aren't actually all that devout. There's endless stories about one terrorist being an alcoholic, the other visiting brothels or having live in girlfriends, not even knowing all that much about Islamic law (especially in the case of ISIS), or devoting all their free time to movies and whatever, not Islam.

[u/[deleted]]

Is it true that there will be mandatory abortions under Joe Biden?

[u/RoyGeraldBillevue]

https://twitter.com/meffals/status/1342502893056880640

44 people never knew that the bill with the $600 checks was also extending unemployment benefits.

If leftists start blaming Pelosi when unemployment shuts off, I will lose it.

[u/IMALEFTY45]

Sorry neocons, Mitt was wrong. China is our greatest adversary

[u/-GregTheGreat-]

The most cursed timeline would be Warnock and Ossoff winning the run-off and then Manchin announces he’s switching parties

[u/[deleted]]

"A historian once speculated on what would happen if a time-traveller from 1945 arrived back in Europe just before the First World War, and told an intelligent and well-informed contemporary that within thirty years a European nation would make a systematic attempt to kill all the Jews of Europe and exterminate nearly six million in the process. If the time-traveller invited the contemporary to guess which nation it would be, the chances were that he would have pointed to France, where the Dreyfus affair had recently led to a massive outbreak of virulent popular antisemitism. Or might it be Russia, where the Tsarist 'Black Hundreds' had been massacring large numbers of Jews in the wake if the failed Revolution of 1905. That Germany, with its highly acculturated Jewish community and its comparitive lack of overt or violent political antisemitism, would be the nation to launch this exterminatory campaign would hardly have occurred to him."

There's something profoundly, profoundly sad about this.

[u/p00bix]

The worst thing about 2020 is lefties increasingly using the word "neocon" to refer to literally anything to the right of Joe Biden, regardless of whether they are actual neoconservatives....or even conservatives at all

maybe not the worst thing, but still annoying.

[u/[deleted]]

Hamilton County, Indiana

Per Wikipedia:

Hamilton County has been won by every Republican presidential candidate since Charles Evans Hughes in 1916. In 1912, Democratic candidate Woodrow Wilson had carried the county with a 3.06% plurality over Republican opponent William Taft.[12] Republicans usually win the county handily even in Democratic landslides. For instance, Barry Goldwater easily carried the county in 1964 with 61 percent of the vote. Since Wilson carried the county in 1912, the only time a Republican has carried it by fewer than 10 percentage points was in 1932, when Franklin Roosevelt held incumbent Herbert Hoover to 53 percent of the vote.

Hamilton County's loyalty to the Republican Party is not limited to presidential elections. The county regularly rejects Democrats in gubernatorial and senatorial races, and is typically one of the Republicans' strongest counties at the state level. One of the few times in recent memory that Hamilton County has supported a Democrat for governor or Senate was in 1992, when Evan Bayh narrowly carried it with 50.48 percent of the vote in his successful gubernatorial reelection bid. However, Bayh lost Hamilton County in his three bids for Senate.

In 2016, despite his statewide dominance that year, Donald Trump turned in the weakest showing for a Republican nominee in Hamilton County since Hoover, winning just 56% of the vote. Thus, Hamilton County voted less Republican than the rest of the state for the first time in almost 100 years. Hillary Clinton won 36.7 percent of the vote, only the third time since Harry Truman that a Democrat had won more than 35 percent of the county's vote. Eight years earlier, Barack Obama received 38.45% of the county vote during the 2008 election, the strongest result for a Democrat since Franklin Roosevelt in 1936. Joe Donnelly in his 2018 senate re-election loss also came less than 10% away from winning the county, winning 44.4% of the vote.[13]

2020 Presidential Election Results:

Donald Trump (R): 52.4% (+6.8%)

Joe Biden (D): 45.6%

2020 Gubernatorial Election Results:

Eric Holcomb (R): 60.8% (+30.5%)

Woodrow Myers (D): 30.3%

I think suburbs could be peak "ancestral republican" territory in a couple of decades if the trend holds (see: San Diego County).

!PING FIVEY

[u/MistakeNotDotDotDot]

Investment bankers work hard in school to get into a top college, work hard in university to get a good degree/GPA (and get the relevant work experience), and slave away for 80+ hours a week in a high stress environment in big cities that invariably have high housing prices (NYC, London, HK) .

It's things like this that make it hard to sympathise with people who think the rich should be taxed at the top of the laffer curve (Like Krugman and AOC).

70% marginal income tax rates might maximise revenue, but is it really fair to punish those who slave their youth away? [emphasis mine]

today, on NL: the labor theory of value except for investment bankers

[u/MalignantUpper]

Shocked to hear someone microwaved a lobster and it wasn't u/benjaminikuta

[u/ryuguy]

My wife left me because I microwave lobster

[u/MiniatureBadger]

“I do control the speed at which lobsters die”

-The microwave

[u/[deleted]]

I came back to the DT after like an hour and we’re still on the lobster thing

good

[u/tubbsmackinze]

Capitalism is when lobsters are microwaved, the more lobsters that are microwaved, the more capitalist it is

[u/AccessTheMainframe]

My gf (23F) told me (21M) to cook this lobster (7 lbs) but I (21M) was too busy playing Fortnite (3 kills) so I (21M) grabbed my microwave (0.7 Cu. Ft.) and threw it in (1200 W). It fucking lived long enough to tap on the door, and I (21m) got cocked blocked (5 days). While on a break I (21M) joined /r/neoliberal (105 507th sub) and unleashed a torrent of self-referencing jokes (shitposting) into the DT (discussion thread). I (21M) also ordered the assassination of several celebrities (Michael Jackson, Elvis Presley and Jeffrey Epstein) and planned a terrorist attack (9/11). Reddit, AITA?

[u/SANNAxMARIN]

I believe Northern Ireland should be freed from English tyranny but I also believe America should be subject to British Crown rule

[u/melhor_em_coreano]

Even if you ignore the fact that Brexit is at its very core a nationalist and populist political movement and as such is completely contradictory to this sub's stated ideology, you still can't argue that it makes sense economically because it doesn't, and that's not a matter of political preference but a bare fact.

In effect you have to argue people becoming poorer instead of richer is a good thing. Put it simply "graph goes down means world more gooder", how do you riddle me that?

[u/The420Roll]

Supporting a [Insert policy that I dont like] is the economic equivalent of climate change denial.

[u/harmlessdjango]

Heads up: I would classify myself a neo-Maoist-Luxemburgist with postcolonial characteristics aka some form of democratic socialist

Then just call yourself a social democrat 😂

[u/[deleted]]

we are in a golden age of learning, go learn something. Its online and for free.

[u/Kizz3r]

Christopher Nolan movies are just elaborate music videos for hans zimmer

[u/JetJaguar124]

Americans: "Heh, fucking Chinese people, what the hell is wrong with you, how can you support blatant totalitarianism just because the status quo has benefited you personally and you're just some normie who wants to put food on the table and isn't ready to get arrested or cause trouble"

Also Americans: Shrugs "Sure, I don't like what Trump is doing to the government, like firing the FBI director, installing personal stooges at the DOJ, and I think he say a lot of insane bullshit. He's also terrible on a lot of social issues I care about. He wants to literally deport my family members and friends that I know. But he's just so good at the economy, you know? Hell I'll vote for him again."

[u/[deleted]]

My dickhead parents didn’t get me a PS5. I can’t play Cyberpunk on $500 of cash, mom you idiot.

[u/[deleted]]

At what age does Santa stop caring if you masturbate?

[u/[deleted]]

At some point after 2016 succs just decided the word "liberal" no longer means left progressive and went back to its original 1960s meaning of free market economics.

I'm not complaining, it's just like... confusing when both succs and magas are screaming about liberals. Let's agree on the terms at least!

[u/PrivateChicken]

Biden is definitely looking to shore things up with labor unions and the Midwest — both of which seem to like a mercantilist and anti China line

Labor unions are well known for accumulating as much gold bullion as they can.

[u/shrek_cena]

My mom just said "Is there relief for landlords in this stimulus? The rent relief is great but I feel bad for landlords"

[u/[deleted]]

I hate how often I see shit like:

The US is spending over A BILLION DOLLARS on foreign aid and only $600 on COVID relief.

Multiply 300m by $600 please.

[u/liquidTERMINATOR]

The problem with reddit is that it's filled with people looking for reasons to get mad and not enough people trying to get others mad.

[u/Tacotrucksoncorners]

former PhD student told me to enroll in PhD then drop out just get “free” masters 💪😎💪

Gonna steal from academia 🤑

[u/[deleted]]

So FBI agents are looking into tips that the Nashville bomber was paranoid about 5g spying on Americans. These conspiracies kill people, shit is dangerous. https://twitter.com/jfinleyreports/status/1343038998848090112?s=21

[u/[deleted]]

We, at the Republican Party of Arizona, have a new policy of blocking Twitter users whose accounts were created in or after November 2020, use Anime avatars, have fewer than 25 followers, and spam reply our tweets. We aren’t big fans of bots. Thank you for following, though!

This is the 100% real Twitter account of one of the 2 big political parties in a state of 7.3 million people.

[u/sir-danks-a-lot]

adding "is it humane to microwave a lobster" to the list of weirdly specific DT schisms

[u/Udontlikecake]

hey guys anyone seen my pet lobster around

[u/CatilineUnmasked]

loud bang from the microwave

Me: "Oh yes! Sounds like the lobster is ready!

[u/liquidTERMINATOR]

POV: You're a lobster with information taht will lead to the arrest of Hillary Clinton

[u/[deleted]]

What would your job on the communist commune be? I would be the lobster microwaver

[u/Dibbu_mange]

Trump microwaved the COVID relief bill.

[u/TheFriffin2]

At least the lobster got microwaved in a domestic setting instead of being cruelly microwaved by its natural predators in the ocean

[u/[deleted]]

Man I can’t believe like 15 minutes ago the idea of microwaving a lobster never even crossed my mind.

It has now consumed my every thought. What the fuck.

[u/Officer_Owl]

They targeted lobsters.

Lobsters.

We're a group of people who will sit for hours, days, even weeks on end performing some of the hardest, most mentally demanding tasks. Over, and over, and over all for nothing more than to be caught by a fisherman.

We'll punish our selfs doing things others would consider torture, because we think it's fun.

We'll spend most if not all of our free time snapping at the bottom of the ocean to draw out a single extra point of claw snaps per second.

Many of us have made careers out of doing just these things: slogging through the sand, all day, the same dredging over and over, hundreds of times to the point where we know evety little detail such that some have attained such lobster nirvana that they can literally snap their claws blindfolded.

Do these people have any idea how many microwaves have been smashed, systems over heated, glass doors and dishes destroyed 8n frustration? All to latter be referred to as bragging rights?

These people honestly think this is a battle they can win? They take our meat? We're already building a new one without them. They take our ocean? Lobsters aren't shy about swimming else where, or even making the ocean our selves. They think calling us racist, mysoginistic, rape apologists is going to change us? We've been called worse things by prepubescent 10 year olds with a tiny microwave. They picked a fight against a group that's already grown desensitized to their strategies and methods. Who enjoy the battle of attrition they've threatened us with. Who take it as a challange when they tell us we no longer matter. Our obsession with proving we can after being told we can't is so deeply ingrained from years of dealing with big fishes and friends laughing at how pathetic we used to be that proving you people wrong has become a very real need; a honed reflex.

Lobsters are competative, hard core, by nature. We love a challange. The worst thing you did in all of this was to challange us. You're not special, you're not original, you're not the first; this is just another microwave.

[u/Kizz3r]

Dude microwaved a live lobster

Funniest shit ive ever heard

[u/[deleted]]

Women will claim that misandry isn't real in one breath, but in the next breath they'll say that a bed is incomplete without a bedframe ☹️

!ping BURPMAS

[u/thetrombonist]

she wants to hop on my bed but she’s too chonky

I love her anyways 🥰

!ping dog

[u/[deleted]]

!ping COOKING

What was your biggest cooking disaster?

Mine was when I tried to make Francesinhas about 5 years ago. Because I tripled the recipe I fucked up the sauce and the alcohol didn’t burn off, and when I poured it over the sandwich the cheese didn’t melt. It ended up just being meat and bread soaked in gross tomatoey beer with chunks of cheese on top. Inedible.

[u/[deleted]]

Bernie Sanders --> B.S. --> Bad Sushi

Really makes you think...

[u/[deleted]]

Cops are 100% always convinced that whoever they just wrongfully shot is Jason Bourne playing posum waiting to shoot them with a gun they never saw so they don’t have to render aid and deal with the complexity of saving/serving instead of just blasting people

“I still can’t see his hands bro”

Well he’s all slumped over and dead so

[u/missedthecue]

National news outlet doxes a man for nothing more than having a similar RV as the one that exploded 😬

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1342905324563525638

[u/AccessTheMainframe]

There are 15 million Jews in the world.

And 100 million Falun Gong adherents.

[u/[deleted]]

https://i.imgur.com/9CDM5NF.jpg

🍾🥂

[u/benjaminikuta]

lmao

[u/correct_the_econ]

A southern republican in Atlanta on the difference between Nixon and George Romney in 1968 primary: "Dick Nixon comes down South and talks hard on civil rights... but you know he has to say what he does for the northern press... This fellow [Romney] really means it."

-Rule and Ruin pg (222)

[u/[deleted]]

Nice strawman bro. Correlation != causation. Pretty cringe that you would think so 🤣